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I like Shawshank and Green Mile. They might not rate so highly on my all time greatest films (Robocop, Predator, Aliens and Terminator occupy four of those top spots) but they're still good solid movies (and maybe Leathal Weapon)(if it's an eighties film, it's probably up there)(yes, even Weekend at Bernies).

Half Life 2.

It's a 4/10 at best. When I'm in a good mood. And feeling generous. Mainly, as I like to think it's Riles in prison. That's worth 75% of those marks. Anyone who gave it over a 4/10 is an idiot. Those rating are clearly broken, anyway, as the greatest film ever made, Point Break, only got a 7.0 on IMDB.



Pah! No, I've always not liked it. As BeeX's Cultural Arbiter, my word is final as everyone agreed it would be.



2/10 at most as I dunno, it kept employed some people doing stuff for some time.

Makes me an idiot then

You're my favorite, though.

There's a needlessness to your dickery sometimes, Mali.

Shame.

Cock off, fagballs.

Bored Mali is mean

It is at times like this we remember that 'Mali' is short for 'Malicious'.

And ET is short as he only has little legs.

* groan*

Fuck me, Mali. Sure, people's tastes differ and all that, but to claim that The Green Mile was "shit" (and Shawshank no better), as against the backdrop of this guy's untimely death as well, strikes me as most odd, to say the least.

Personally, I think both of these deeply poignant films are truly stellar in their quality and absolute must-haves.

I'm expressing surprise at such depth of feeling for someone that wasn't that great an actor in films that weren't great.

He was alright singing "leaving on a jet plane" in armageddon!

Malc

I think it is because he was in films watched by millions. FFS he helped save the world from a huge asteroid!

They're not great in your opinion, albeit your original appraisal, such as it was, was a good deal harsher.

For me, I simply cannot understand how anyone couldn't be affected at least on some level by either of these two films, let alone both. Either you must have a heart of stone or you're trolling, and in either case definitely disrespectful.

There again, the late Neil Armstong being described earlier as "a fucking illiterate redneck" is equally bewildering to me, for, y'know, very marginally "fluffing his lines" after flying to the moon and all that (very nearly crashing into the moon in fact, but for <30 seconds of fuel remaining and multiple critical computer error codes from something that makes your average Nokia phone look like a mainframe. Not to mention his earlier heroic Gemini 8 mission- and life-saving interventions and distinguished military flying career well before even that).

Still, I know one thing alright: this thread fucking sucks balls. I never normally read it; nasty, cruel, ghoulish bollocks in my opinion.

The Green Mile is a good film.

Not in the same league as 'Freddie Got Fingered', but still worth a watch.

For some reason I keep thinking he's the same guy who got bummed by the Gimp & Co in Pulp Fiction. Could Mali be thinking the same and all this is a jealousy thing? Of course he is.

Shit, and there was me thinking we were talking about The Green Mile and The Shawshank Redemption...

I suppose by that logic, De Nero and Pacino are shite actors because both have appeared in bad films, right Malcy?

Much like a modern day Anubis, weighing the heart of the deceased, it isn’t uncommon for particpants on Web 2.0 to discuss the corpus of an individual post mortem. Especially one that has been in films that many have seen, creating a common bond between participants. Opinions of the career do differ, and I’m surprised he’s thought of as a good actor. I’m not at all convinced he was, looking over his works. If this offends you, might you suggest a suitable timescale for the duration of your grief, and then we can continue.

That was Ving Rhames you fucking racist.

I'm not racist at all. I loathe everyone equally.

Especially you.

Leaving aside the fact that you're being deeply pretentious and facetious (and look a twat in so doing), what you've said actually bears no relation to what I originally pulled you up on anyway. I never said or claimed that the guy was "a good actor", and nor was I (unduly) mourning his passing - I was actually expressing incredulity at your blanket, very specific dismissal of The Green Mile and The Shawshank Redemption films as "shit", stated as fact.

Perhaps then, instead of labouring unduly over some smartarse reposte (which ironically falls flat on its arse), your time might have been better deployed actually reading and understanding the post(s) to which you were responding?





Don't you patronise me. No, I am not having a 'Princess Diana' moment, as is surely clear to anyone. I don't know who or what has pulled your chain today, and care even less. Welcome to my Ignore list; first time I have ever used it, on any forum, ever.

Um, I like Armageddon, and Shawshank, I've not seen the Green Mile, but I loved the books and I imagine I'll enjoy the film (if that's the right word)

Malc

Didn't say you were.

I was correlating the emotion attached to his passing with his status as an actor, which seems to be built largely upon his performance in The Green Mile. Points still stand, though. If he's upset over my critique of his career, he can write to me.



Sometimes I get bored of your mum and write in a style I'm unaccustomed to. it's not much of a hobby, but it passes the time.

Worst missing out of quotation marks, ever.

Except you did.
(Nice editing of my quoted post as well).



Except you weren't. You were specifically responding to my earlier post, which is why you quoted it. This was very specifically and exclusively about your earlier blanket remarks about The Green Mile and Shawshank being "shit", stated as absolute fact. Nothing to do with what you seem to be rambling on about now.

So stop feeding him, then. And you appear to have belmed Malc for no reason.

I'm trying to work out what the problem is:

1) Commenting upon his work
2) Commenting upon his acting
3) Commenting about them in the dead thread
4) Other

I was commenting as a whole, to a wider audience, not just you, as point for further discussion as to the recent trend for people commenting in many media when someone dies. (1st sentence of my reply)

The fact that GM and SR aren't ever going to sit upon plinths in the pantheon of late 20th art does fit into that. The GM is part of his works so comment isn't unexpected. (Second and third sentences)

The only incidence of "you" and "your" were in the final sentence, where I offered up a method to avoid seeming to be unfeeling toward someone's demise.

With all respect, I'll decide if - and when - to stop responding to posts addressed to me. If someone is trolling, which you appear to agree, then get on their case, not mine please.

In terms of Malc's post, I wasn't 100% sure what to make of his post to be honest, especially in the context of what we were talking about (and I'm still not). So if I misunderstood him, which I obviously have done, I apologise to him. (Mind you, being 'belmed' is hardly a serious admonishment!)

Yup, I've decided I think.

What I was trying to do, was be a little light hearted, and point out that he sang "jet plane" in armageddon, and that I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it so much that when ever that song comes on, I sing it in his deep voice.

Kovacs appeared to do a similar thing to me in the next post (except he used the whole film instead of just that one scene)

Malc

I like Shawshank. Apart from the final shot. They should have left it with Red on the Bus.

Also, it amuses me to watch it with the idea that Andy is a cold eyed killer. Makes it a much more entertaining film. Can the murderer escape his righteous imprisonment? Can he convince the romantic Red that he's a nice guy and get him to Mexico for One. Last. Kill. ?

<crawls through shit pipe>
<emerges in river>
<throws hands up in despair>

You would never have gone in that pipe. You'd have gone out in laundry truck.

Tea. Desk.

Did he not play the character of the gentle giant to a tea in The Green Mile? I never watched that performance and thought he was overacting or portrayed the Stephen King character as anything other that what I'd read. He owned that character so fully that I doubt I could read the book again and not imagine him as that character (and not in that bad way, either).

You might not like the film but I doubt anyone in their right mind could say he was the wrong actor for the part or did the character a disservice.

Oof. Terry Nutkins has crossed the Great Divide .

Aww.

Leukaemia. Cruel disease.

Aw man, he wasn't that old either was he?

66.

That wasn't serious, you complete noodle. The redneck thing, I mean. He totally did fluff his line though.

Also, DocG likes The Whole Nine Yards? Cripes. I thought I was the only one. Awesome.

Also also, the Green Mile and Shawshank Redemption are good films, FAOD, and Mali is clearly dead inside.

I stand alone against mass market sentimentalism.

I bet you didn't cry at Dead Poets Society either. Soulless monster.

I can't recall if I've seen that or not. is that the "Oh Captain, my captain" film with robin Willaims and Matt Damon and Mini Driver makes a joke about blow jobs?

Yes, I fucking hate Leukaemia. Claimed my cousin who was just excellent and my equally excellent uncle is battling with it now.

That's Good Will Hunting. Close, though.

What about Homeward Bound? Eh EH? First Born was literally in tears over that the other day. Which is weird, as he's only 5, so his abilitiy to empathise with characters in a narrative is quite advanced, it seems. UNLIKE YOU, YOU HEARTLESS FIEND.

Watership Down is the saddest film.

It's unlikely I'm going to invest emotionally in a film about lost dogs. Tell him to man teh fuck up and take him shooting or something. or motocross riding, as I want to go and my friend's wife won't let him. LOLZ.

oh dear, I used to love watching him as a kid.

You must be older than you look. he wasn't on TV until... (BANG - Ed)

Yep, huge part of my childhood too. A real pity that he couldn't find the same success outside of the Really Wild Show as Chris Packham did.