German History

Dimrill · **Posted:** Thu May 03, 2012 16:50

Squirt wrote:

Dimrill wrote:

Fascinating. Nice to see that around 0AD/BC the Iranians were doing much better than almost all animal life put together.

Now they're fighting a losing battle with the Lemurs and Apes though. I'd be to intrigued see the working that lead to the conclusion that the peak time of Bacteria and Fungi was about 1550AD.

It seems to correlate with the expansion of the British Empire. I can only think that the invention of Fungal Knack 1700(c) by renowned bacteria hater Father McTringy put paid to their fuzzy and stinking empire.

Dimrill · **Posted:** Thu May 03, 2012 16:52

Zardoz wrote:

Biggest Histomap I can see online:

http://www.thenewatlantis.com/imgLib/20 ... omaplg.jpg

Aha! The crimping of the Visigoths and Lombards by the Franks caused Bulgaria! I love this history business, me.

Grim... · **Posted:** Thu May 03, 2012 18:06

Grim... wrote:

I've got a German colleague I can ask for you tomorrow.

She recommends "The German Genius" - it's apparently a massive tome of a thing, so you're well advised to get it on Kindle, but it's "pretty much everything you could need to know".

Click here and shop to earn me 8p

Kern · **Posted:** Thu May 03, 2012 18:44

Cheers for that!

Kern · **Posted:** Thu May 03, 2012 18:57

Hmm... whilst looking at the one on Amazon, I saw this book on Anglo-German relations:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Keeping-With-Ge ... d_sim_b_26

I'm pretty sure I was at college with him.

Squirt · **Joined:** 31st Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 6614

Zardoz wrote:

I might do a Forumhistomap! £150 each ok?

I wonder how hard that would be to do - you could, with the right data , do a sort of "proportion of total posts" sort of slidery thingy. Maybe as a proportion of the previous month's posts so that when people stop or start posting the effect is quite sudden, rather than very slowly increasing their total of the whole.

MaliA · **Posted:** Fri May 04, 2012 11:10

Zardoz wrote:

or...

Quote:

As of December 4, 2006 this item is out of stock from the North American Montessori Teacher's Association. However the author's granddaughter wrote to me to say that she has copies she is willing to sell at $12 (+$8 shipping). Email Jacquie Glanz: jacquieglanz at yahoo.com.

Bet they're all gone though.

I might do a Forumhistomap! £150 each ok?

is there an installment plan?

Zardoz · **Posted:** Fri May 04, 2012 11:23

How about 12 manageable monthly payments of £30?

Grim... · **Posted:** Fri May 04, 2012 11:27

Squirt wrote:

Zardoz wrote:

I might do a Forumhistomap! £150 each ok?

I wonder how hard that would be to do - you could, with the right data , do a sort of "proportion of total posts" sort of slidery thingy. Maybe as a proportion of the previous month's posts so that when people stop or start posting the effect is quite sudden, rather than very slowly increasing their total of the whole.

WHY MAN, WHY?

I THOUGHT WE WERE FRIENDS?

Kern · **Posted:** Fri May 04, 2012 11:30

MaliA wrote:

Zardoz wrote:

or...

Quote:

As of December 4, 2006 this item is out of stock from the North American Montessori Teacher's Association. However the author's granddaughter wrote to me to say that she has copies she is willing to sell at $12 (+$8 shipping). Email Jacquie Glanz: jacquieglanz at yahoo.com.

Bet they're all gone though.

I might do a Forumhistomap! £150 each ok?

is there an installment plan?

£37.50 per millennia

Zardoz · **Posted:** Fri May 04, 2012 11:34

Grim... wrote:

Squirt wrote:

Zardoz wrote:

I might do a Forumhistomap! £150 each ok?

I wonder how hard that would be to do - you could, with the right data , do a sort of "proportion of total posts" sort of slidery thingy. Maybe as a proportion of the previous month's posts so that when people stop or start posting the effect is quite sudden, rather than very slowly increasing their total of the whole.

WHY MAN, WHY?

I THOUGHT WE WERE FRIENDS?

I'll just draw one making us look awesome and Myps a cunt.

Squirt · **Joined:** 31st Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 6614

Grim... wrote:

Squirt wrote:

Zardoz wrote:

I might do a Forumhistomap! £150 each ok?

I wonder how hard that would be to do - you could, with the right data , do a sort of "proportion of total posts" sort of slidery thingy. Maybe as a proportion of the previous month's posts so that when people stop or start posting the effect is quite sudden, rather than very slowly increasing their total of the whole.

WHY MAN, WHY?

I THOUGHT WE WERE FRIENDS?

Do it! Do it for the Lombards, cut off in their prime by the Franks. Do it for the Proto-Negroids, caught between Mediterranean Man and the Australoids. Tamerlane would want you to do it, as he plundered from Baghdad to Moscow. Orkham would want you to do it, as he ruled wisely. Sennacherib would want you to do it, as he shocked Asia by destroying the Holy City of Babylon. DO IT!

Trooper · **Joined:** 4th Mar, 2010 **Posts:** 22397

Grim... · **Posted:** Fri May 04, 2012 12:13

Man, what just happened then? Everything just stopped. It's almost as if someone pulled a few gigs worth of posting data out of the database.

Squirt · **Joined:** 31st Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 6614

Huzzah!

Pod · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 2568

That histomap is really cool -- but what does the x axis mean? Where's the data from. I don't agree that the HRE was 3x as 'powerful' as France in 1100.

Squirt · **Joined:** 31st Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 6614

My guess would be that he used the highly scientific "finger-in-the-air" method of gathering data, although I imagine he had to fall back to the "pull-the-numbers-out-of-my-arse" system on occasions. I've no idea how you'd measure the relative power of China and the Arabs in 950AD, what with neither of those being a single political entity and being on other sides of the world from each other.

You probably could, if you had the right data, make some rough estimates based on things like military strength and state income, but half the histomap would be a fuzzy blob as the actual data would be vague or imprecise.

Zardoz · **Posted:** Tue May 08, 2012 9:20

The main thing is you can't prove it's incorrect.

And it looks awesome.

myp · **Posted:** Tue May 08, 2012 9:50

myp wrote:

They've blatantly made most of it up, but it looks cool!

GeeZa · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 17

If you're into the Unification period William Carr's "The Origins of the Wars of German Unification" is about a good a start as any. In fact Carr's introductory books on German history are pretty much a de facto undergraduate starting point. Well written, easy to follow, full of detail.

Kern · **Posted:** Fri May 11, 2012 8:08

GeeZa wrote:

If you're into the Unification period William Carr's "The Origins of the Wars of German Unification" is about a good a start as any. In fact Carr's introductory books on German history are pretty much a de facto undergraduate starting point. Well written, easy to follow, full of detail.

Thanks - will look into it.

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32624

1000 years of Europe's borders

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoWtvpg7 ... e=youtu.be

Squirt · **Joined:** 31st Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 6614

LIKE. It's intersting to see how quickly stuff can change. Mongols!

It would be cool to see a slightly larger area - Interesting stuff was happening in North Africa and the Middle East as well!

Zardoz · **Posted:** Tue May 15, 2012 16:38

You're never happy.

Squirt · **Joined:** 31st Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 6614

Zardoz wrote:

You're never happy.

I know. It's just that I've been searching all my life for the perfect time-lapse visualisation of history, but I can never quite find it! It's out there somewhere, I know!

Kern · **Posted:** Wed May 16, 2012 9:47

Pretty neat map, thanks for that.

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