Be Excellent To Each Other

Why didn't you post and ask? That thread has been going for 6 months, I agree there's a bit much chatter due to excitement but do you really expect the most relevant data to be right there? (even though a lot of it is, on the first post).



We're talking about things that develop day-to-day. Like Jonarob posting "hehe!" in that thread of lave's got several reactions that I didn't understand. Never mind, move on.

Bits and Bobs is not some kind of live chat like IRC. It is for stuff not worthy of a thread of its own.

Eg if I walk down the street and see Dave Lee-Travis, I won't create a thread for that but will post it in Bits and Bobs. The idea of Bits and Bobs is to reduce forum noise, not increase it.

Yep. But it's like asking and 80yo man to forget WW2, dude.

They would have been 15 when it ended.

It's OK, I introduced a colour scheme for those people who find it difficult to cope. I hope to start charging for this shortly.

I mean, seriously, forums have had injokes since the dawn of time. Big deal. If you don't understand it, just move on.

Surely it does though.

Those that leak into other threads are fully self aware about. Now it's been highlighted, I'm sure (they -Ed) will moderate (their - Ed) behaviour. B&B shouldn't be chat, agreed, but I don't see the harm of a cheery hello at 7:30 being returned by a kindered spirit. Do you?

And therefore equipped with fully realised memories. Jeez

Well I don't. Basically because I don't get half of them due to the in jokes that Zio mentioned. Most of them fly over my head but I did get the chemical fire one the other day.

Seriously, some of the posts here might aswell say

/hfhjk;l08947jfdjmkl;fdeml;./m,

fdu9489089jfdmn,.fdghjkf98989


Because they would make just as much sense to some one like me.

Fuck you charge all you want. We'll just use a different hue.

See I did get that one.

Oi, that's mod colour

John, that was an in-joke. You never read the posts before jumping in with your 2p

Many of them are based on in-game chat. Which usually means only the handful of people playing them will get it. (For instance, the querying about whether things are Dimrill. Which, unsurprisingly, was me asking whether something was Dimrill. In a game.)


I think after certain events, they're quite cautious. Because some people (Mentioning no names, but gone) would throw a fit at the least sign of a moderator even thinking about doing anything. Certainly made me feel (a) sorry for them and (b) Glad I wasn't one.

It's not IRC and it's not DS.

I can't tell you how much I hate it. Go and read any of the long running threads on DS where middle aged woman sit around all day and use the forum as a substitute for actually going outside. The kind of people who go shopping in their pyjamas. Hate it, hate it, hate it.

If that's the way people want this forum to go, then so be it, but if that day came I'd be off quicker than you can say "back in half hour, gonna watch Jeremy Kyle".

[vote:Mr Dave]

I'm utterly bemused by the 'Dimrill is a Racist' one though. Including the frankly horrifying image that comes with it.

Yes, I do dude. But for the most part this forum is 'be there or be utterly fucking confused'. It's almost a live chat room at times.

It's kind of hard to explain and if I did try you probably wouldn't get it, but I see myself as a semi outsider here. I only speak to one of you 'off forum'. I don't tweet or twitt or whatever it's called with any of you. I don't do the whole 360 thing and the last attempt I tried to speak with you guys face to face was just ridiculed so I just thought fuck it.

There aren't many people like me here who stick around on a daily basis. To some it would be daunting but to me I guess ignorance is bliss.

Seriously Kalmar, half of what you guys say to one another makes absolutely no sense to me. Especially when it becomes apparent that it's a convo over something said during a 360 play session.

If it wasn't for the fact that there are some familiar faces here and ones I've known for a decade I doubt I would have stuck around. Most of it just doesn't make any sense.

3 posts since I tried to post this... see?

Fair do's. I'm glad we're being honest. Despite all my jibes at you, it would be a loss the forum if you left. (no, no hug)

In fact, it would be a loss if *anyone* left. Even Mr Chris.

Well, if that's how you see things, then fair enough; but your "post per day" count of 12.19 exceeds that of MetalAngel, Curio, Mimi, Mr Dave, Joans, etc etc. It's not far behind my own. You've made 1.4% of all the posts on Beex, ever.

I don't know anyone here "off-forum", I refuse to go to meets, and the first time I spoke to anyone online was at Christmas and a handful of times since as I'm not a hardcore online gamer.

I have no issue at all with any of the jokes that arise from face to face meetings or the online gaming. I don't feel left out, there is no problem. Perhaps I've been around long enough to realise the limitations of forums?

Well, we are past that now and have been for some time. Like I say, if you think serious posts are being ruined by chatter, mention it, we'll try to help.



The man makes a good point.

I talk a lot of shit. LOL. That would be a joke but it's true. Most of it is about PCs and so on.

Let me give you an example of what I mean.

Gaywood would have told him...

Me to myself - What the fuck is a gaywood? a homosexual erection?

It took three months before I actually knew that someone's name was Gaywood. See also - the thread yesterday with the old paintings where people were laughing about them looking like someone here. I had no fucking idea what you were all talking about so I gave it a wide birth and posted about PCs or said good morning or something.

I think we're discussing three different things now

The really IRC-ey stuff is generally (most of the time) only in the BnB thread. It's one to avoid if you don't like that sort of thing (I personally don't have any problem with it, in its place, and certainly don't have the visceral hatred for it that some people seem to, on a par with their dislike of, say, people who like Simply Red*. Cultural Nazism!), and use other threads instead. One could always start a "Mr Chinny's Thread of 80s References", for instance.

If the whole forum was BnB, or going that way, I'd very much hate it.


*I do not like Simply Red.

New thread?

(Jesus, Dave! Stop it!)

And you're one of the people whom I actually 'get' most of the time.

Strange but true.

But jokes aside yeah, I doubt I would go and meet with any one either. I just see it that I'm happy with what I have (life and friends) and I love spending time here. I would love to talk to everyone here via a live chat (voices) just to see what they all sounded like but I can't see myself going to Manchester to see the people here.

Sorry iPhone fucked the quote up...

I was saying 'hehe' because I noticed a forum member's real name on the petition. I don't know what the replies to my post meant either, but I'm not bothered. I'm definitely not in an in-joke, unless you count having a few beexers on facebook as an in-joke!

Damn. The only time ever that get a 360 might be even slightly relevant.

JC. It's ok that you feel like an outsider. So do I. I go on Live very rarely but the warm comforting bosom of Beex tolerates me anyway.

Oh yeah dude. What I was saying was that I didn't mind

Oh, and that was their name you posted?



I now realise they were probably expressing displeasure that you posted someone's real name on the forum. If they haven't done it themselves, it might be a bit rude to go "outing" them like that.

I meant to suggest trying to get a chatty PC game going, but thinking about how to go about it made my head hurt*. And the thread title didn't exactly endear me.


Bear in mind the community started before the 360 was even released, but (fairly slow) uptake of the 360 has made communications more immediate, and attracted a fair few members.

* - Voice comms. I'd have to insist, given that I'm used to t'xbox, something which can separate voice from game audio, like Ventrilo, and not like steam chat (Unless they've changed that in the new beta). Then choice of game (and consequent gnashing about control methods)

I would agree with this, lots of very in-jokes and references, which makes it quite off-putting to anyone new, but then again it gives the place its 'charm' and 'character'

Reminds me of b3ta.com in terms of re-occurring obscure references etc...they don't seem to swamp that place either

Nobody should ever be outted on here. Isn't it in the forum rules?

If not, it should be. It's up to the individual users if they use their real name or not. Some might be posting from work for example.

[Sorry Grim.. off-topic]

Oh, whoops. Well if a mod would edit it that would be dandy. But, I didn't associate the name with a member and if I'm totally honest I can't even remember which member has that name. I just recognise it from facebook and know it's a beexer!

I edited it last night :0)

The only solution here is a "rate this post" system, and people not getting positive scores should be limited to one post per day until they go back into the green.

Err yes, that is a rule. Apologies for not catching on, I didn't realise it was someone here's name at the time. Craster's edited it anyway.

D'oh! Cheers, and apologies to whoever's name that was, I didn't mean to annoy anyone.

Mmm, if people change their username, as The Gaywood did (MS forced him to, as he's massively offensive), the old username will probably still be used. (See Jonarob: Or Terry Wogans Cock, as he seems to want to be known)

Similary, if someone has a name on Live, you'll often see that get used by those on Live, as it's a more familiar term. (See: Perkies)
Although many people either changed username when we moved from WoS (See: Me) to prevent such confusion.

Open to abuse in heated arguments, though.

Well, all's fair in love and war. Plus, the mods can add a balancing rating to even it out.

I see no flaw in this plan.

I think we're all being a little self-analytical here because there hasn't been a fall out in a while. Like a relationship. Just chill out, it's only a forum innit!

Christ, that's a bit much, isn't it? (Although I suspect you're being sarcastic).
I think that would be a bad thing anyway, as people posted more funny to get more thumbs up.

If anyone is getting angry over this, then don't. This is a discussion.

Sometimes the spam annoys me, other times it amuses me. I'm no help am I

How and ever, it does bug me when someone's thread asking for help gets derailed/spammed to buggery before they get their problem solved. Same with the ones where we're in the middle of a great big fight debate & they suddenly veer wildly off-topic (that's possibly a self-defence mechanism though, as none of particularly want a proper argument with fallings out).I know what most of them are about, that doesn't mean I think they're all funny though.

I don't mind the place as it is, I just ignore anything I don't want to read, spam included.

Although I did post in the Manc meet thread to say I might be able to make it, and nobody responded and I wasn't added to the "maybe" list in the first post. Either myp hates me and wants me to be killed with hammers, or my post got lost amongst the general chat and tomfoolery

*cries*

The thumbs up would be for interesting content, not funnies. That would be a rule.

I would say we need a sarcastic face dimlie, but I'm not sure what that would look like. David Baddiel?

Anyway, dunno. Maybe this thread will cause at least a temporary change in behaviours and that'll solve it for now. Until saturday and everyone starts posting "OOOOH I'm DRUNK".*


*Which means I'll be the first on.

I think that in threads like the Manchester one it would be a good idea to put into place what was suggested at one point in the thread- since we are now getting close, create a sticky thread with the important details and if anyone has any specific information they would like to get they can ask it in there and it can then be added into the first post if deemed necessary. That thread shouldn't get too large since we only have a few days and any chatter about the event rather than specific detail reqests can be kept to the main rambling Manchester thread.
I would also suggest a new iPhone apps thread, moderated to only included recommendation for apps with a brief mention about what it is. I often miss out on talk about apps because there is talk about lots of other iPhone related stuff.

Also, just my thoughts on the reasons for this thread- I agree with most of them although i think that the creation of this thread is enough to reduce it. There are a lot of times that I see new posts have been made to a topic but I don't go and read it until there has been a chance for even more since I know that I will just skim a few of the inevitable nonsense posts. That's not to say that I don't like nonsense posts though-sometimes we get on topic ones which make me laugh (like one in the Argentina thread, I think it was Squirt? It was on topic but not serious and was excellent.)
then there are nonsense posts about recurring jokes and sometimes they are well done as well, like a proper use of 'i'm not paying x', but often when these jokes do pop up they are just filler and don't even raise a smile which ruins the great times the joke is made well.

*looks for Arkham Asylum*

I don't think anyone's getting angry. It's healthy to voice an opinion on something that may be annoying you. The alternative is bottling and that eventually leads to massive DRAHMA.

Shall we bore my wife to tears with forum issues on saturday, or shall we trash it out now?

*takes off shirt and shoes. Oils chest*