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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 0:23 
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Money-grabbing music-raping arsehole "more popular" than God? Seriously?

It's bad enough that people watch his shitty show every week in millions of droves and willingly throw their money away on whatever knockoff identikit ballad cover they shit out immediately afterwards. And what's worse is that this year they're doing it to an actual, DECENT piece of music. Would you REALLY prefer to hear Hallelujah sung by a no-mark Beyonce wannabe with overdramatic drowning music, accompanied by an "explosive" key change and rent-a-choir gospel singers (much like every other X-Factor/Pop Idol single ever released funnily enough) than a simple, yet goosebumpy effort by Jeff Buckley, or even Leonard Cohen's worthersy originals?

There's already a fuck-ton of Facebook groups supporting the cause to stop the X-Factor from dominating the umpteenth Xmas chart with such sacrilege, mainly by campaigning that we buy the Buckley version. Heck, there's even a group supporting the idea of buying Rick Astley instead. ANYTHING is better than this unwanted dirge.


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I do agree that it's an identikit, dull version of 'Hallelujah', sung by someone who would sing any song the exact same way, and who doesn't really care for what she is singing, and I would never buy it...

...but I do enjoy watching the show, as predictable as it is. It amuses me.

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Money-grabbing music-raping arsehole "more popular" than God? Seriously?


I thought that was the Beatles.


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I actually quite liked JLS, for what they were anyway, there's no credible replacement for the likes of Damage or even Boyz 2 Men around.

They would have butchered that song of course (didn't see the final in case they did it on that) but at least they were a good example of their own genre, which is more than anyone else there was, with the possible exception of Diana who I quite liked.


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In protest I have not only bought the Jeff Buckley version of 'Hallelujah' (to be fair, I'd been meaning to grab it for ages), but I'm also currently listening to The Beat's cover of 'Tears Of A Clown', which is how one should cover a classic song.


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If a dodgy cover detracts from the original, the original had it coming Personally I don't think this no-mark's vocally athletic passion free rendition does anything to detract from the Cohen or Cale versions and Buckley's is too widely spooged over for me to give a fuck anymore. These facebook groups, when I see who is in them, remind me that Buckley's version is most widely loved by Startbucks Hoxton Cunts who wouldn't recognise another tune from Grace if it bit them on the nads.

Hallelujah is a song which benefits from different interpretations. Shit though Beyconce's (whoever's) version is, I'm less bored of it than Buckley's. Go and buy Mystery White boy, and shut up, you fashionista tards. Every cunt I know rages about Buckley Hallelujah.


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If the argument is about cover versions, with this, you are an overweight elephant on ice skates right now. In Antartica.

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My wife was upset that there was a pop, talent contest version of Hallelujah. My response was, "Leonard Choen shouldn't write such fucking good songs then, should he?" I think it's a fair point.

Anyway, Buckley's version is probably my fourth favourite version, after the aforementioned Cohen and Cale versions and Willie Nelson's version.

Anyway, thank God Alexandra won. It's a bit too clean and big and I'm not going to be buying/downloading it, but, you know, we could be stuck with Eoghan's version.

Anyway, I love the X-Factor and this year was a good year. Which is nice, because last year was utterly terrible.

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See, I didn't really follow the show that closely, but that Bagpuss oirish scamp? How the fuck did he get to the final? Every time I caught him he was some nauseatingly smirking goit with a very weak voice - if I were less ahem cynical, I'd say he was deliberately used to encourage people to vote for the other two.

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See, I didn't really follow the show that closely, but that Bagpuss oirish scamp? How the fuck did he get to the final? Every time I caught him he was some nauseatingly smirking goit with a very weak voice - if I were less ahem cynical, I'd say he was deliberately used to encourage people to vote for the other two.


He had a surprisingly good voice when given big numbers, but they seemed to try and keep him small and cute. I'm glad he didn't win, but not because of his voice.

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The Rev Snowen wrote:
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See, I didn't really follow the show that closely, but that Bagpuss oirish scamp? How the fuck did he get to the final? Every time I caught him he was some nauseatingly smirking goit with a very weak voice - if I were less ahem cynical, I'd say he was deliberately used to encourage people to vote for the other two.


He had a surprisingly good voice when given big numbers, but they seemed to try and keep him small and cute. I'm glad he didn't win, but not because of his voice.


This may be one of the greater failings of the show. Spend the auditions looking for someone with a distinctive voice and personality. Then spend 12 live shows making them sing karaoke versions of stuff that doesn't suit them.... and complaining at them for sounding karaoke.

And also somehow assuming that (for instance) Leona's conversion of every song into one where the last 1/3 scares cats within 5 miles and has nothing to do with the song is a good thing.

It's interesting that the two most successful acts from these shows (Will Young and Girls Aloud) are the two that either evolved (Young) or were kept away from Simon by Louie who knows how to package a group (GA).


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I don't really care about X-Factor, and up until this year, would only watch it, if I was in the room whilst Pauline had it on.

But this year, my kids (especially my eldest) really got into it. And as such we watched it as a family.

Over the course of the series, everyone had their favourites, and we also did our own scoring out of 10 for each song. And it was fun. I still wouldn't watch it if it wasn't for the kids loving it, but taking it as a bit of family fun it's really quite good.

As for the song they chose, it's boring and Alex's version of it was far better than JLS (whom I slightly preferred overall as Alex was getting a bit too soppy), having never heard of the original song before this, I then heard it on the radio twice. And that's boring too. I found it as bad as that cover of "Mad World" that was christmas number 1 a few years back, which just made me want to kill myself.

So yes, I used to agree with the point of the original post, but can now see it from the other side too.

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It's interesting that the two most successful acts from these shows (Will Young and Girls Aloud) are the two that either evolved (Young) or were kept away from Simon by Louie who knows how to package a group (GA).


But Leona has broken America, big style. Worldwide, I think she might the most successful of them.

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It's interesting that the two most successful acts from these shows (Will Young and Girls Aloud) are the two that either evolved (Young) or were kept away from Simon by Louie who knows how to package a group (GA).


But Leona has broken America, big style. Worldwide, I think she might the most successful of them.


Indeed. She's even nominated for 'Record of the Year' at the Grammys.

I quite like Will Young's new single, daft horsey video notwithstanding.

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I quite fancied the 17 year old lass. The blonde one.

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But Leona has broken America, big style. Worldwide, I think she might the most successful of them.


By not being treated like a reality TV contestant. The goal of the show is basically, your 16 week Christmas No 1 advertising campaign and follow up album. The winner gets chucked on the scrapheap in 12 months. Everyone has made a fuck load of money, job done.

If they do find someone with a genuine talent, they are taken away from that as quickly as possible. See: Girls Aloud.

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X factor is ace until Bootcamp.

I won't be buying any of the garbage produced by the winner or runners up.

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I've not bought anything by an X-Factor contestant, though I have spent money on Girls Aloud CDs.

And I think I'll probably pay 79p for Leona's Bleeding Love at some point, because it's a fantastic song.

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Oh, and Miranda Lambert was a contestant on Country Idol. She didn't win, but she's bloody brilliant, one of my favourite new finds in ages. I love her. I had her two "proper" CDs bought for me in the States and I, er, downloaded her first indie CD from [official online sources - Ed].

I've even thought about joining her fan club, and I've not been in a music fan club since I joined the Marillion fan club when I was seventeen.

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I like the ginger one form Girls Aloud. And she likes me as well. We are destined to be together.


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My oringinal posting contained a bit about how the music industry needed and got five slappers that were happy to mime and get their kit off at every opportunity that they could merchandise the hell out of. So cheers for proving my point.

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My oringinal posting contained a bit about how the music industry needed and got five slappers that were happy to mime and get their kit off at every opportunity that they could merchandise the hell out of. So cheers for proving my point.


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But Leona has broken America, big style. Worldwide, I think she might the most successful of them.


By not being treated like a reality TV contestant. The goal of the show is basically, your 16 week Christmas No 1 advertising campaign and follow up album. The winner gets chucked on the scrapheap in 12 months. Everyone has made a fuck load of money, job done.

If they do find someone with a genuine talent, they are taken away from that as quickly as possible. See: Girls Aloud.


Given that for the past few years the follow up album hasn't been released for 12 months, that's not strictly true.

And Leon Jackson's (last year's winner) new single ('Creative') is actually quite good, now that they've stopped trying to make him a pop singer and given him an up tempo Buble-esque number.

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It's interesting that the two most successful acts from these shows (Will Young and Girls Aloud) are the two that either evolved (Young) or were kept away from Simon by Louie who knows how to package a group (GA).


But Leona has broken America, big style. Worldwide, I think she might the most successful of them.


True, because they like that screeching shit too.

She's a lot better than she's been allowed to be.

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And that's the Diana I mentioned.[/quote]

I thought you meant the Queen of People's Hearts.

Do you know what she would say if she were alive today?

"LET ME OUT OF THIS BOX!" most likely.

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And Leon Jackson's (last year's winner) new single ('Creative') is actually quite good, now that they've stopped trying to make him a pop singer and given him an up tempo Buble-esque number.


Good grief, so much wrongness. As if anything buble could be approaching good. And add that to Leon as well. Crikey.

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And Leon Jackson's (last year's winner) new single ('Creative') is actually quite good, now that they've stopped trying to make him a pop singer and given him an up tempo Buble-esque number.


Good grief, so much wrongness. As if anything buble could be approaching good. And add that to Leon as well. Crikey.


I don't really like Mister Bubbles, much preferring Mister Connick Jr for my modern crooning, but he's a useful reference point in this day and age.

It's still a good song though.

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I like the ginger one form Girls Aloud. And she likes me as well. We are destined to be together.


I thought Paul O' Grady had stopped peddling his drag act?

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I like the ginger one form Girls Aloud. And she likes me as well. We are destined to be together.


I thought Paul O' Grady had stopped peddling his drag act?


BAD MIMI!

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I like the ginger one form Girls Aloud. And she likes me as well. We are destined to be together.


I thought Paul O' Grady had stopped peddling his drag act?



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As I have said on numerous occasions, the Ginger one from Girls Aloud is awful. She has the skin tone of a cadaver and is just plain urgh.

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As I have said on numerous occasions, the Ginger one from Girls Aloud is awful. She has the skin tone of a cadaver and is just plain urgh.

Stop liking her.


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There's more norms than Ginger mods anyways. Ha!


The others are weak though.

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It's interesting that the two most successful acts from these shows (Will Young and Girls Aloud) are the two that either evolved (Young) or were kept away from Simon by Louie who knows how to package a group (GA).


But Leona has broken America, big style. Worldwide, I think she might the most successful of them.

But she's only really had one major hit single worldwide to date (Bleeding Love), and her album sold well mostly to the "middle-aged housewives who love Mariah Carey and Il Divo" market. She hasn't exactly been truly accepted by people of all ages, nor has she become "cool to like", nor has she maintained a long string of several hit songs worldwide. I thought to have well and truly broken America, you needed to get their attention with something, and keep them very interested in the rest of your output from then on. (I noticed they didn't make Spirit climb all the way to the top of the Billboard Album chart again purely on the back of a cash-in suckers "deluxe" edition, like what happened here in the UK.)


Maybe if Miss Lewis ends up achieving all of this, then I'll be inclined to agree. But to be honest, right now she should stop being a one-trick pony and stop trying to out-Mariah Mariah. The original is bad enough.


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I note that the only member of Girls Aloud that ever gets mentioned with 'cor, I fancy her! WOOF WOOF!' comments is Ginger Nicola. The other four, therefore, can fuck off.


Only in places full of:

a) Gingers, or
b) Mentalists

I think everyone in the world who does not fall into those categories would have Nicola 5th out of 5 on the 'Girls Aloud To Do' list.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 16:08 
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Clausiosity wrote:
SnowAngel wrote:
I note that the only member of Girls Aloud that ever gets mentioned with 'cor, I fancy her! WOOF WOOF!' comments is Ginger Nicola. The other four, therefore, can fuck off.


Only in places full of:

a) Gingers, or
b) Mentalists

I think everyone in the world who does not fall into those categories would have Nicola 5th out of 5 on the 'Girls Aloud To Do' list.


You're on my list now..

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 Post subject: Re: Can I wish for instant armageddon now please?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 16:10 
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Ahead or behind the ginger one?

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 Post subject: Re: Can I wish for instant armageddon now please?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 16:11 
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myoptinsel wrote:
Ahead or behind the ginger one?


I hope I'd be ahead of Craster...

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He does have a lovely beard, though. It's a toss-up.

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 Post subject: Re: Can I wish for instant armageddon now please?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 16:24 
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well, i didn't knew this band, but after checking it on google images all i have to say is: I wished the ginger did porn.


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