Be Excellent To Each Other

...read it until I have seen it (no bt see)

What is the difference between this fear... and twd?

They are different shows set in the same Universe. I've not seen FTWD, but from what I gather it deals with the zombie apocalypse happening, as opposed to TWD, which is about survivors in the aftermath.

Is twd actually any good, I keep watching the first episode and thinking it is shit and giving up.

I love it, other people feel otherwise.

Season One is fantastic (and that's when Darabont was at the helm), from Season Two onwards they had severe budget cuts and Darabont fucked it off, but it still delivers solid entertainment through Seasons Two-Four. I can't remember exactly when I started to get distinctly 'Meh' about it all but Season Five and definitely into Six sounds about right. (Although there is still the odd stand-out episode.)

I'm really only watching it now because I'm significantly invested in it from a time perspective so it seems a shame to stop now, and it doesn't require much of an ongoing investment of time to keep up to date - and I love zombie stuff.

If you don't like Season One then it's probably not for you, as it certainly doesn't get any better.

It is good, it has excellent drama and good characters.

It does however suffer from everyone always being all of the stupid all of the time.

It used to be average to good, but ever since a certain character died, it's been pretty shit and pointless.

I haven't even bothered with the second season of ftwd

2 part season opener! Wow. This is gonna be good!

IIRC I did the first half of Season Two and then gave up, since it had basically turned into TWD with a smaller budget, less interesting characters, and not enough gore.

Even Season One fucked it up really, since my understanding of FTWD was that it was going to be focused more on the transition phase from NORMAL WORLD to ZOMBIE INFESTED APOCALYPSE. When what actually happened is all the main characters fucked off pretty sharpish to a military protected suburban safe zone and then we got a soap opera with occasional zombie interludes, some episodes were even TV-14 instead of TV-MA.

And then by the end of Season One we were basically into the same timeline as where Season One of TWD started, at which point, meh, really.

Wow, the first three episodes of the new season have been good to excellent. Episode 3’s ending was pretty darn fab and surprising. Interesting cinematography too and I especially enjoyed the final shot.

Very very surprised.

Is it on Season 3 or 4 now?

I'm hard pushed to think of what they could have made better, it was floundering badly in Season 2 and I gave up half way through.

Is it still just TWD except with different people in a different area? Have they dealt with what the zombies do in winter yet? Have the main characters figured out to just go somewhere really cold instead of wandering endlessly around in perfect temperate zombie territory?

Sorry, I appear to have missed your post Hearty.

Anyway, turned out, that season started off being awesome then descended into the biggest shit show you’ve ever seen. The episodes leading up to and including the midsession were so bad the Internet (read: Reddit) were absolutely up in arms about it, and rightly so, cause it was fucking dire.

They started the season killing off one of the main stars (the lad, whose name escapes me) but introduced one of the most likeable characters in the series (this gentle cowboy dude). Then a bunch of bullshit happens and they kill off Madison in a sequence that would have Hearty up in arms at how contrived it is. But they do it all in slowmo. It was laughable garbage. Honestly, I laughed out loud to myself as slowmo reaction faces edges across the screen. Urgh.

Then the second half of the season starts and I had to come on BEEX to voice my disdain for how bad it starts:

It’s raining. Absolutely pissing it down even. It’s new for TWD which, to my mind, has never had a sequence in the rain. And there’s heavy wind as the wind bows the trees somewhat. So at least it looks different to the usual American countryside. Slow pan from left to right as zombies are eating away in the rain.

BUT NO! A CGI zombie, which looks as out of place as CGI can when it’s done on an Amiga 1200, is caught by a gust of wind and flies into the air. The camera continues to pan as another CGI zombie slides on his back down rain soaked road like he’s on some sort of water slide. The effects are so bad that it’s jarring to watch. I was speechless that they couldn’t pull a fucking human on a rope to create the same effect without it looking quite this atrocious. And it would have been more expensive.

That’s when I stopped watching to post this. Time into the show 1 minute 13 seconds. Including the recap... for fucking fucks sake.

Watch the full rainy sequence!

Oh huh, Lennie James is in TWD. I like him.

Apart from the appalling CGI that doesn't look too bad of a setup.

Not going to watch it though, obviously. I kind of lost interest once it transitioned into simply being a low-budget retread of TWD.

That's FTWD.

But he’s been in TWD since the very first episode.

Wut? Has he? Huh.

Oh, he's the dude from Snatch.

And Line of Duty, which everyone should watch.

BEHNT CAHPPERS!

So... What's the difference between TWD and FTWD? Same universe I assume? Is it just different group of people going through it?
I've never understood, but then I don't watch either show, so not surprised I don't understand.
Is it like CSI:Miami and CSI:Hull? Or Arrow and The Flash?

Line of Duty is very good, the latest one with Thandie Newton in particular, until it all goes a bit hollywood right at the end.
DS Arnott has zero luck when it comes to both women, and not getting the shit beaten out of him.
Thandie doesn't get her Newtons out though, which is a surprise for her...

I always thought FTWD would deal with the transition phase from normal world to zombie world, but they really cheaped out on it and we basically didn't see any of it, and then it was just running parallel to TWD but in a different place with different characters.

https://www.beexcellenttoeachother.com/ ... 65#p953665

FTWD is set on the west coast at the very start of the outbreak. It's much earlier than the main events in TWD.

Well yes but FTWD skipped a load of time somehow and it now runs parrell with characters from TWD in FTWD (well, one of them anyway).

EDIT: Hang on, this season takes place after the latest season of TWD so currently it’s in front of TWD.

Are there crossover episodes?

Looks to me like they're very close together timeline wise.

https://undeadwalking.com/2017/11/27/wa ... crossover/

Jesus, that must be one of the worst cookie consent popups on mobile that I have seen.

To be fair, he was in one episode and then not in it for ages, but then he came back and was awesome.

Ah, I'm not going mad then.

Series 1 was the start and series 2 immediately after.

However, the current series of FTWD is chronologically later than TWD, as Morgan has arrived in FTWD since the series finale of the last series of TWD.

Edit: yes I typed this post a good while ago and forgot to submit it.

Oh right. I've only seen S1 and S2.

One minute in. How the fuck are the zombies Flying in all different directions at the same time and many times faster than the fucking leaves?

And how do they survive through winters?

I've possibly mentioned this once before. Or twice.

i.e. This is not the time to pick up on inconsistencies in the TWD/FTWD world, they've been there all along in one form or another.

That was the worst dogshit I’ve ever seen.

I anticipate that there won’t be another season.

TWD probably won’t stick around after Rick dies this season either. They really fucked these shows up with terrible writers. I bet 9 out of 10 ordinary people could come up with more compelling zombie stories (such is the proliferation of Zombies in today’s mindset) instead these fuckers killed off a great programme.