It's morning! Yay!

Oh wait, what's this? SDG is full of buckshot, and not moving. She was Steve "The Colonel" Cropper, now renamed to Steve "Come a-" Cropper, AMIRITE?

What else has gone on? MaliA seems to have vanished. No one remembers seeing him leave the Charity Fundraiser so you go round to knock on his door to wake him up.

As you knock on the door it slowly opens to reveal that the inside of his church has been emptied of all his belongings and the interior has been redecorated in a very unusual white wallpaper with thin grey horizontal lines.

Along the back wall near ground level are some blue neon lights which have been molded into a name "CURIO" and just above them is what appears to be a childish drawing of a hanged man , but it has a strange 3d effect as it seems to twist and turn in the light ...

Someone in the group screams and you know that its not a drawing but a costume and as you remove the blank face mask you see Malia's dead eyes staring out.

On his forehead someone has written in lipstick BLEM.

MaliA was Sister Mary Stigmata.

[playerlist]
bobbyaro
Cras
DavPaz
GazChap
goddess jasmine
joans
Mimi
Mr Russell
saturnalian
zaphod79
[/playerlist]

Day two ends at midday on Friday, or sooner if you will it.

With 10 players alive, 6 votes are required for a lynch, and 6 nolynch votes are required to not lynch anybody.

OK, so the way I read this is that MaliA was killed by the Mystery Woman (kills in a high tech manner), and the Head Nazi killed sdg.

It says the Head Nazi also takes a night off if he kills a black person. Can we have the black players identified in the rules post please?

Why would you suggest that the Nazi killed SDG?

FOS: Mr Russell for his voting pattern last round and then for strangely attributing the death of SDG to the Nazi rather than to the Good Ol' Boys.

Yeah, so Russell totes tried to stop us lynching Curio yesterday.

[vote:Mr Russell]

Although I fear this may end the game early....

[vote:Mr Russell]

Oh, oops, I missed the good old boys bit because it was in a separate paragraph.

OK, so that actually means that the Head Nazi didn't kill anyone then, right? Because there were only two deaths.

This presumably means that the roleblocker spent the night with them, so somebody now knows who that is.

But I also was the 6th vote out of 7, pushing him really close to a lynch.

Why would I leave that hanging around for so long for someone to just jump in and finish him off. That would be incredibly stupid.

Oh, or the nazi doesn't exist.

But if he does, then whoever is the Chic Lady (roleblocker), knows who it is.

Unless she doesn't exist and the nazi targeted one of the two victims but didn't get there first (or get attributed the kill in a case where multiple people target the same victim).

Yes, unless neither exist.

We also have a reverend who has investigated someone. Which is nice.

If he exists.

[Vote: Mr Russell]

Mr Russell - you need to stop and take a moment to collect yourself - all this flapping around makes it look as if you are the 'Mafia Don' (oh wait you might be)

There were 2 kills overnight

Reading the descriptions one sounds like a typical 'hit' with a shotgun
The other sounds like the SK in this game (who can be turned if she meets the right man)

From the rules thread description for the good ol boys



So one of the baddies killed SDG , and the SK 'disposed' of Malia , the disposal fits the description of the mystery woman



Everything else is unclear

For those pushing for a Mr Russ vote right now we have until Friday and having a '24 hour day' at least would allow some other people to contribute (SDG is no longer around but it would be good to have GJ have a chance to read and possibly contribute)

I appreciate the sentiment, but it's not like the investigate role is going to role claim on day 2 is it? Without that, what else do we have to go on?

No absolutely, and nor should the investigative role reveal themselves yet. Because there are still two killers out there. Once again, sorry for the confusion earlier regarding attributing the death to the wrong person.

This is true. Maybe lets wait to make sure that there is nobody hiding in the silence. [Vote:Unvote] for now, but FOS still firmly at Mr Russell and I will re-cast this vote again unless something more meaningful crops up.

I spent the evening with a lady with a dubiously large rubber dong last night - so she wasn't entertaining the Nazi. That means either there isn't one or Something Else Happened^TM.

What happened in the game?

So Chic Lady is confirmed (according to Cras).

That means that either Nazi doesn't exist
OR
Nazi chose not to kill
OR
Cras is the Nazi.

If the Chic Lady doesn't exist then you're lying, but I can't see any benefit.
If she does exist then she knows that she either targetted you or someone else.
If she targetted someone else, I can't see what advantage you have to gain by lying that it was you, as it could be disproved UNLESS you're a baddie trying to root out the roleblocker (seems counterproductive).
If she targetted you then it's easily confirmed by Chic Lady, and it makes you look like a roleblocked Nazi. Which would have to be the most massive balls out declaration I've seen.

I count 19 roles and 12 players so there could be missing roles, I guess. I'd be amoosed if Cras is Craster.

I think if there was a Mystery Woman and a Head Nazi killing as well as the Good Ol' Boys we'd be a bit shy of numbers to give much balance: there would effectively be 3 kills a night from the baddies and only 1 possible lynch per day from the band members. I'm not as experienced in the game as many of you, but that would seem to be quite stacked against the town. I mean, it COULD be that there are all three kill opportunities and one was blocked or not used, sure, but I think this would be a bit harsh on the band with the current numbers. Can't rule a Nazi out, obviously. The Nazi may have also targeted someone else that Sister Mary was praying for. I'm not sure of the sequence of action, but if God heard her pryers before the Nazi struck, that could also have blocked him: though we'll not be able to find that out as Sister Mary is dead.

12 players: potentially 3 dead each night. It could be the quickest game ever. I'm leaning towards no Head Nazi but maybe talk of a Nazi serves someone's aims. Maybe.

Russ' posts are making my head hurt.

So either Cras is the head Nazi or we don't have one.

I'm not sure if that is a ballsy move by Craster or if he's playing the long game. Hmm.

I think Russ is the obvious person to go for here - he seems 'too keen' originally to work out whats going on and then to try and be 'helpful' , it just looks odd

Possibly. We haven't done this for a while so I'd like to put it down to overexcitment on his part; but he's been this way for two days now.

I think Russ is the obvious one to go for, as I said yesterday there is no way his vote against Curio wasn't suss. I just don't buy he is that dumb!

I will re-cast my vote in this fashion unless we turn anything up in the meantime. I understand it's not wholly conclusive, as this game rarely is, but unless we turn up something more substantial then I think we should go with what we have: and my feeling is that Mr Russell's vote behaviours and strange reading of the likelihood of roles and kills is quite suspicious.

Mr Russpicious.

Hehe

Hehe

Highly Russpicious

[vote:Mr Russell]

Amazing scenes.

You can clearly see my mistake, but 'being overkeen to explain things'? That's analysis of the game. It's probably one of my bigger tells for when I'm bad, as then I don't do the analysis stuff in case I give my buddies away. Even if I'm not very good at it, at least pointing things out might help others draw conclusions.

My personal conclusion for Craster's stuff is that there is no nazi in the game, but Saturnalian said that all the talk of it was helping....someone. So I just shut up yesterday rather than muddy the waters more.

ANYWAY. Bobby said this:

My question: If I was on the same team as Curio, why would I put in the penultimate vote for him, and then leave it hanging around for hours waiting for someone to pile on and add the last vote, thereby killing him off. In no way does it make sense to leave that vote hanging for so long just to give myself a cover.

It is not reasonable to jump on me until that has been explained, and also, posts concerning my posting style or how they make people's head hurt are not conducive to clear discussion, rather a way to cast doubt on me without actually saying it.

In summary: no way I would leave that vote hanging around for Curio if I was on his team because it would be stoopid. Ergo. not a baddie.

Unless you were the SK, of course.

Absolutely. There's no way I can prove that through my voting actions so far. But neither can anyone else.

Or you could see that the today had obviously turned and that the lynch was inevitable so placed your vote to try and allay Mr Russpicion...

The today had obviously turned? I think that should have said the 'tide' had obviously turned, but I can't edit it

Oh, can you not edit any posts in this part of the forum?

Fair enough. I guess it stops people changing the past - unless something is broken on my browser?

No you can't edit.

But yes, if the tide had turned, then why would I be the one to push him to the precipice? You know it doesn't make sense.

Who are the quiet ones?
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[vote:gazchap]

But you forgot that, like you forgot about the Mafia, right?

You switched to Curio after we'd already started the choo choo and called you out for being Russpicious.

FUCK GAZCHAP UP!

Seriously, though, this is also a good point. I was going to go through and count who had made most posts in the thread earlier, but I'm too tired/lazy, so thank you for doing that. Gazchap/Joans: care to have any input at all?

Typically I've not had a huge amount of time to come in and pay much attention to this during the day, evenings are going to be my "time" I think - so don't vote me for being quiet - I've just not really been here that much!

That said, the lack of a Nazi kill would suggest a roleblock. Just checked the roles and the Nazi doesn't have to order a kill, but it seems very odd that they wouldn't.

Therefore, I think Craster's claim is an elaborate double-bluff. [vote:Cras]

Hehe, Russpicious

VOTE UPDATE

cras: 1 (GazChap)
gazchap: 1 (Mr Russell)
mr russell: 3 (Cras, DavPaz, zaphod79)

Not voted: 5 (bobbyaro, goddess jasmine, joans, mimi, saturnalian)

With 10 players alive, 6 votes are required for a lynch, and 6 nolynch votes are required to not lynch anybody.

http://www.beexcellenttoeachother.com/counter/

When you call 'em out, they scuttle forth from the woodwork.

As has been said many, many times before,mothers is also a chance there is no Nazi role.

And the 'don't vote for me because I'm not playing in the game' doesn't help the town much. If you're not helping the team you're hindering, by not partaking in the action to try and weed out the baddies. It actually makes the town have to work harder to outnumber yours and Joans' dead wood of a role if you don't take part.

Unless you are taking part, of course... But only at night. As you said, evenings are YOUR TIME, like much of the criminal underclass.

Did Mimi just call us all mothers?

Now that the penguin is gone we can all say mother

Hahahaha! I think that was supposed to say 'there is', but who knows.