Beex, Yo.
Are you ready?
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Mimi wrote:
Green Party 80%
Liberal Democrats 20%
Liberal Democrats 20%
Someone Actually Electable: 0%, then.
By that metric you're saying we should only vote Labour or Tory.
Future Warrior wrote:
By that metric you're saying we should only vote Labour or Tory.
There's little nobility in tactical voting, but there's little clever about refusing to consider it.
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Future Warrior wrote:
By that metric you're saying we should only vote Labour or Tory.
There's little nobility in tactical voting, but there's little clever about refusing to consider it.
With FPTP there's little value in most people voting at all. I might not bother. Or move to a marginal where my vote actually matters.
It's no wonder young people are so disenfranchised.
Future Warrior wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Mimi wrote:
Green Party 80%
Liberal Democrats 20%
Liberal Democrats 20%
Someone Actually Electable: 0%, then.
By that metric you're saying we should only vote Labour or Tory.
He didn't say I shouldn't vote for those parties with policies I believe in, just that he didn't think they were likely electable, at present at least.
I didn't take it as an instruction not to vote as I believed at least, but I'm sensible and will balance up placing my vote to adhere to what I most believe as well as where I believe it will do most good in the current political landscape.
The whole point of the voteforpolicies site is to make people consider who they vote for, and if people actually believed their vote would count then yeah, we might see a green or Lib Dem government.
But (let's say 80%) of people who would otherwise vote Green say 'oh my party will never get in - i'll vote labour instead'
And then Labour get in.
But (let's say 80%) of people who would otherwise vote Green say 'oh my party will never get in - i'll vote labour instead'
And then Labour get in.
Future Warrior wrote:
With FPTP there's little value in most people voting at all. I might not bother. Or move to a marginal where my vote actually matters.
In a safe seat, I think you're better off voting for what you believe in. Ok, so it'll be swept under by the blue/red tide, but at least you'll have signalled that people with your views exist.
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It's no wonder young people are so disenfranchised.
So they don't vote, so parties have even more reason to ignore their needs and carry on screwing them over whilst showering older generations with bribes favours and promises because they are the ones who vote.
Mimi wrote:
If only we weren't all too thick for STV.
If people can work out who needs to score what to win the Six Nations, they can handle ranking candidates.
Kern wrote:
Mimi wrote:
If only we weren't all too thick for STV.
If people can work out who needs to score what to win the Six Nations, they can handle ranking candidates.
I think the process of round elimination in University Challenge and Only Connect is perhaps an experiment to see if we can handle the minor complexities of STeVe.
Lib Dems - 50% - Democracy; Economy; Environment; Health/NHS; Welfare
Con - 20% - Europe; Foreign Policy; Defence
Green - 20% - Crime; Immigration
Lab - 10% - Education
Con - 20% - Europe; Foreign Policy; Defence
Green - 20% - Crime; Immigration
Lab - 10% - Education
Mimi wrote:
Horn-ed viper.
Monday's are best days.
Monday's are best days.
Especially when my alma mater thrash the opposition on 'University Challenge', or if I get 3 points on 'Only Connect'.
Amusingly I cam out as 40% UKIP*.
Yeah, don't think I'm going to be voting according to that.
* - They came out as my choice on the ones where I thought "I don't care and there's little to choose in any of them. Pick any one at random.
Yeah, don't think I'm going to be voting according to that.
* - They came out as my choice on the ones where I thought "I don't care and there's little to choose in any of them. Pick any one at random.
Trooper wrote:
https://voteforpolicies.org.uk/
The new site is up, who do you most align to?
The new site is up, who do you most align to?
Fuck me, that got dull quickly.
Grim... wrote:
Trooper wrote:
https://voteforpolicies.org.uk/
The new site is up, who do you most align to?
The new site is up, who do you most align to?
Fuck me, that got dull quickly.
Yup. Especially on the NHS. It's not like any of the parties are gonna say: "Yeah, we're gonna fuck this up so our mates can make a packet".
Curiosity wrote:
Grim... wrote:
Trooper wrote:
https://voteforpolicies.org.uk/
The new site is up, who do you most align to?
The new site is up, who do you most align to?
Fuck me, that got dull quickly.
Yup. Especially on the NHS. It's not like any of the parties are gonna say: "Yeah, we're gonna fuck this up so our mates can make a packet".
People didn't like it when Mr Farage did exactly that.
Cras wrote:
The 'pre-answering' is a usability nightmare.
It's also another website designed for people with tablets.
Some of us are retro!
Assumed that my result would be a mix of Lib Dem and Green, ended up with 75% Lib Dem and 25% Labour.
Jem wrote:
Assumed that my result would be a mix of Lib Dem and Green, ended up with 75% Lib Dem and 25% Labour.
You right-wing bastard
Natalie Bennet gave a couple of car-crash interviews this morning. This one with Nick Ferrari on LBC is worth listening to: http://www.lbc.co.uk/incredibly-awkward ... LtMIy9D.97
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Natalie Bennet gave a couple of car-crash interviews this morning. This one with Nick Ferrari on LBC is worth listening to: http://www.lbc.co.uk/incredibly-awkward ... LtMIy9D.97
Yeah I was listening to the Today programme interview this morning. I had to turn it off as it was just awful - reminded me of Nicola Murray.
Saturnalian wrote:
Good on her. Family first.
grauniad article here which I found quite scathing on the Bradford labour party. It calls into questions the local practice of block voting.
MaliA wrote:
Saturnalian wrote:
Good on her. Family first.
grauniad article here which I found quite scathing on the Bradford labour party. It calls into questions the local practice of block voting.http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015 ... line-smear
This is getting embarrassing
MaliA wrote:
MaliA wrote:
Saturnalian wrote:
Good on her. Family first.
grauniad article here which I found quite scathing on the Bradford labour party. It calls into questions the local practice of block voting.http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015 ... line-smear
This is getting embarrassing
And off we go again!
MaliA wrote:
MaliA wrote:
MaliA wrote:
Saturnalian wrote:
Good on her. Family first.
grauniad article here which I found quite scathing on the Bradford labour party. It calls into questions the local practice of block voting.http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015 ... line-smear
This is getting embarrassing
And off we go again!
Galloway threatens defamation claims against people on twitter
The Tory party apparently offered Rifkind's safe parliamentary seat to Frank Lampard!
Curiosity wrote:
The Tory party apparently offered Rifkind's safe parliamentary seat to Frank Lampard!
But he said he could only commit to the second half of the administration having signed for another government
DavPaz wrote:
Curiosity wrote:
The Tory party apparently offered Rifkind's safe parliamentary seat to Frank Lampard!
But he said he could only commit to the second half of the administration having signed for another government
*nice*
Cleggy wants a Cornish Assembly. Hasn't made a cast-tin pledge though, which is possibly just as well.
Kern wrote:
Cleggy wants a Cornish Assembly. Hasn't made a cast-tin pledge though, which is possibly just as well.
He's always been strongly in favour of devolving a lot of powers to local authorities, so this is no different to Manchester or Birmingham really. If it puffs up the Corns' chests and makes them feel important I'm all for it though.
Future Warrior wrote:
Kern wrote:
Cleggy wants a Cornish Assembly. Hasn't made a cast-tin pledge though, which is possibly just as well.
He's always been strongly in favour of devolving a lot of powers to local authorities, so this is no different to Manchester or Birmingham really. If it puffs up the Corns' chests and makes them feel important I'm all for it though.
Yes, I'm very interested to see how the Greater Manchester experiment pans out and if gets rolled out to other areas. Undecided on whether a mayorlty is the best structure, but some devolution is better than none.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-31745808
Who didn't see that coming? They should just "empty podium" him and do the election debates without him. If he doesnt show up for the first 3, then the 4th one with Ed vs Dave on 30th April they can cut to 15 minutes rather than the full 90.
Rather a lot of comments on that page too.
Who didn't see that coming? They should just "empty podium" him and do the election debates without him. If he doesnt show up for the first 3, then the 4th one with Ed vs Dave on 30th April they can cut to 15 minutes rather than the full 90.
Rather a lot of comments on that page too.
Cameron's position seems to be that the idea of a 7 sided debate is a farce, so let's just do it and get it over with, and move on.
That has some merit to it
That has some merit to it
The more parties involved, the better it is for him. He is such a little toad.
R4 played a lovely clip of Cameron from 5 years back calling Brown scared of the debate and emphasising its importance.
MaliA wrote:
R4 played a lovely clip of Cameron from 5 years back calling Brown scared of the debate and emphasising its importance.
Yes, it always puts the incumbent at a disadvantage, that's why he's trying to weasel out of them.
"Just who do the broadcasters think they are, that they can set down a diktat?" said the Northern Irish dick to Sky News.
Well, it's their fucking broadcast, so, yeah.
Well, it's their fucking broadcast, so, yeah.
Mr Kissyfur wrote:
"Just who do the broadcasters think they are, that they can set down a diktat?" said the Northern Irish dick to Sky News.
Well, it's their fucking broadcast, so, yeah.
Well, it's their fucking broadcast, so, yeah.
I agree with Mr Chris."We are organising on these dates, come along" and he said no.
I think the debates were blown out of all proportion last time and detracted from the election. There is no point in having the two main brains and five losers. Just have Ed and Call Me Davebig we have to. We aren't America, we're more civilised than their system so why try and copy it?