Saturnalian is gone! He ended the game with £600.
He was a townie.

Individual player league table:
1. saturnalian £600
2. Grim… £325
3. nickachu £300
4. sdg £150
5. GazChap £125
6. Slightly Green £100


[playerlist]
KovacsC
DavPaz
Cras
Curiosity
bobbyaro
british nervoso
Mr Russell
Zeppo
[/playerlist]

Player Totals:
KovacsC £400
DavPaz £200
Cras £50
Curiosity £450
bobbyaro £500
british nervoso £200
Mr Russell £550
Zeppo £250

There was 1 player who did not use their night action.

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With 8 players alive, 5 votes are required for a lynch

Day 5 ends Tuesday at 2pm, or sooner if there is a majority vote.

oh bugger Sat has gone...

[vote:KovacsC]

We haven't hit a single maf yet. I'm going to assume there's three of them, otherwise it would be over by now - so we have to not miss today.

Not much to go on, but here are those that voted a townie lynch both nights, in no order:

Cras £50
British Nervoso £200
KovacsC £400
DavPaz £200

How many mafia do we think are in the game? Three or so? So maybe only two or so more nights to start getting this right.

Whoops, not posting fast enough, I'm repeating people's shiz. Can anyone point the finger at anybody, looking back at previous day's comments? I've got nothing.

I am a townie...

Although Grim... ended up being a townie, I still think he was working to the detriment of the town, so it was a good shout on the limited amount of data we had at that point.

We're at crunch time now. The list above is pretty much all we have to go on, but I'm betting at least one of the mafia didn't vote each time to obfuscate things.

No it wouldn't. They have to outnumber the town.

[vote:cras]

A four man mafia wouldn't outnumber until either a lynch went on a townie or a night kill happened.

The Mafia will know when their final night kill wins them the majority, and will almost certainly use that to their advantage, most likely by stealing from the richest non-Mafia types.

Your continued lack of making money really looks like an attempt to hide before a final night steal from one of the rich players. It might not win you the individual game, but it would work wonders if you were part of a team that knew exactly when to act.

WTF? There's 8 of us. Please explain exactly how you'd get a lynch of a mafia if there were four mafia and four townies.

[vote:Curiosity]

By the way, I'm calling the Mafia at this point as Curio, Zeppo, and Bobbyaro. I don't really think the town can win this. As Curio ironically says, the Maf will all steal in a co-ordinated fashion on the night they know they'll kill someone and end up outnumbering the town, whereas the rest of us will steal blindly and probably fuck it up.

Obvious Mafia outrage is obvious.

I just quite correctly pointed out that the game would not be over because the numbers are not yet imbalanced. The Mafia still have room to steal more or lead a lynch on someone with a lot of money.

Your response to this is to froth at the mouth and accuse me?

There was no froth. You've been accusing me since day two - if I was going to react and counter-vote I'd have done it then.

You're still a bad guy, mind.

More succinctly:

Your tactic of holding the least amount of money only makes sense if you're Mafia. You say yourself that we're likely on the edge, so why didn't you make money last night? You're not playing to a solo win condition, so you must be playing to bolster the Mafia on their final night switcheroo.

All interesting stuff, this. [vote: Cras]

Cras, how are you helping the town by having no money? Same questions I asked Grim... yesterday, I suppose.

No money for the mafia to steal. This is going to turn into a whacking great stealing free for all on the final night - offering them tempting targets isn't what I've been going for.

Admittedly with hindsight, it's not been a very good plan

CapitalistScum Day 5

VOTE UPDATE

kovacsc: 1 (DavPaz)
curiosity: 1 (Cras)
cras: 2 (Curiosity, Zeppo)

Not voted: 4 (kovacsc, bobbyaro, british nervoso, mr russell)

With 8 players alive, 5 votes are required for a lynch, and 5 nolynch votes are required to not lynch anybody.

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My FoS is Davpaz and SDG

SDG is dead!

PETALOLZ

doh, I was just reading who posted first on day 1

So you basically have no idea.

That as well..

And the mafia have to be one that is not me...

Working on the assumption that there are 3 maf, we need all 5 of us to vote for the same one to get a lynch. So wake up everybody who isn't mafia!

FYI, that's Kovacs, Myp, Russ, and DavPaz.

Who are we voting for then, Oh Great and Powerful Leader?

Let's assume you're telling the truth for a second. If you're not mafia, then if I vote for you then you're safe because even if Bobby piles on it needs a deciding vote.

[vote:Cras]

Let's see what happens.

That...actually makes sense.

Of course, it also makes sense if he's in the Mafia, as we need to convince everyone against him, while his buddies sit back and hope it doesn't gain traction.

Which is also true of voting for anyone, of course.

And which I've already pointed out.

And?

The only thing I have to go on, really, is tactics. You've even admitted yours are shit from the POV of Town, so you're either a belm merchant or Mafia. I am guessing the latter.

So unless something changes or someone does a handy analysis of voting patterns or money thieving (surely Sat was killed for doing that?) then my vote stays.

I know. I read it over about ten times trying to figure out where I'd fucked it up.

I would be interested to know why you think I am bad?

[vote:Cras]

[vote:Cras]

kovacsc: 1 (DavPaz)
curiosity: 1 (Cras)
cras: 5 (Curiosity, Zeppo, British Nervoso, Mr Russell, Bobbyaro)

Not voted: 1 (kovacsc)

With 8 players alive, 5 votes are required for a lynch, and 5 nolynch votes are required to not lynch anybody.

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Cras was a townie!

He ends the game on £50.

Night actions to me by 7pm tomorrow please, at the very latest.