Beex, Yo.
YOU ARE NOT LOGGED IN!
CapitalistScum Day 1
Mo money, Mo money.
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Go and read the rules thread if you haven't already, would you.
If you haven't had a PM from me, then you are a member of the Town faction.

[playerlist]
KovacsC
DavPaz
sdg
Cras
Slightly Green
Curiosity
GazChap
Grim...
bobbyaro
british nervoso
saturnalian
nickachu
Mr Russell
Zeppo
[/playerlist]

Player Totals:
KovacsC £100
DavPaz £100
sdg £100
Cras £100
Slightly Green £100
Curiosity £100
GazChap £100
Grim… £100
bobbyaro £100
british nervoso £100
saturnalian £100
nickachu £100
Mr Russell £100
Zeppo £100



http://www.beexcellenttoeachother.com/counter/
With 14 players alive, 8 votes are required for a lynch

Day 1 ends Friday at 2pm, or sooner if there is a majority vote.
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[vote:KovacsC]
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[vote:davpaz]
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[vote:unvote]
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Stand by for Dead Zone fixing
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Shout if you can still see the Dead Zone

Hello, fellow hard-workers!
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Hello everyone nice to meet you all, anyone got any good stock tips for me?
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sdg wrote:
Hello everyone nice to meet you all, anyone got any good stock tips for me?

Why? Losing your edge?

*evil grin*
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Gon' get dat cabbage and dat cheese.

Cor my packed lunch is shit today.
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sdg wrote:
Hello everyone nice to meet you all, anyone got any good stock tips for me?


Yes. Give me your money and I'll invest it for you, guaranteed 50% return in 3 days.
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Saturnalian wrote:
Gon' get dat cabbage and dat cheese.

Cor my packed lunch is shit today.

It's got cheese in, so it could be worse.
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as everyone has a night action, to keep the game flowing at a decent rate, feel free to preload your night actions and send them to me throughout the day period if you like. However, as soon as the day ends whatever you have sent up to that point will be locked in as your action.
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Grim... wrote:
Saturnalian wrote:
Gon' get dat cabbage and dat cheese.

Cor my packed lunch is shit today.

It's got cheese in, so it could be worse.

It's naturally occurring...
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Does anyone here like Phil Collins?
Hello

BUY BUY BUY!!!!
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I would like to buy a safety deposit box.
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Who wants my money? If you give me 50 for 3 days, I will give you 70 back in 4. Easy money, just need at least 4 investors.
Bobbyaro wrote:
Who wants my money? If you give me 50 for 3 days, I will give you 70 back in 4. Easy money, just need at least 4 investors.

Are you a Nigerian prince?
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nickachu wrote:
Bobbyaro wrote:
Who wants my money? If you give me 50 for 3 days, I will give you 70 back in 4. Easy money, just need at least 4 investors.

Are you a Nigerian prince?


Oooh, probably a Mafia Role, right? Bobbyaro for TFODOSFP ('the finger of day one suspect finger pointing').
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When do I get to snort coke our of a hooker's arse?
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Sort of a prisoner's dilemma style game.

If we all just invest our money every day, we'll surely gain more between us than the mafia, and we can see who has stolen money each time, so can lynch any thieves, as the Mafia can only win by stealing.

Win-win!

[/thread]
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Curiosity wrote:
When do I get to snort coke our of a hooker's arse?

Why would you want to do that?
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Curiosity wrote:
Sort of a prisoner's dilemma style game.

If we all just invest our money every day, we'll surely gain more between us than the mafia, and we can see who has stolen money each time, so can lynch any thieves, as the Mafia can only win by stealing.

Win-win!

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Huh. This is a brilliant idea.

It kind of interferes with my gameplan, though.
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Grim... wrote:
It kind of interferes with my gameplan, though.

If you're mafia, then yeah.
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Drawbacks to my plan:

1) Mafia could donate money to townies, making them look guilty.
2) Towards the end people will try to win the individual game by stealing.
3) It's kinda boring if we all just do the sensible thing. No capitalists ever won by being fair!
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Does anyone want to do the maths on whether or not we want to lynch now? I'm going to guess that we do. Oddly, we can win even if we all get killed, as long as our money is locked in. At the moment you'd have to assume that the Town has more money than the Mafia, so the sooner we end the game the better seems to make sense.

Thoughts?
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British Nervoso wrote:
Grim... wrote:
It kind of interferes with my gameplan, though.

If you're mafia, then yeah.

If I was, my gameplan would be done tomorrow.
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Curio's suggestion would almost indicate lynching at random would be ideal, say unless any one individual person accumulates £400, then kill that person (to avoid the mafia stealing enough to win). Does that make sense?
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Depends on the number of mafia, doesn't it?
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Hmm. If we assume a max of 4, then they would need over £1000 between them. So kill anyone who hits £300?
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And there's no point them framing townies by giving them money, because we keep that money even if a townie dies - so they'd just be adding to our total.
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Cras wrote:
And there's no point them framing townies by giving them money, because we keep that money even if a townie dies - so they'd just be adding to our total.


True, we should lynch whoever has the most money every turn.
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Yes, we should shouldn't we? GERR'EM.










(PS. What's going on here?)
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TOWNIES FORM TOGETHER!

*Transformers noise*

[vote: Cras] or Curio, like whatever, let's just gerr'um.
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What's the point of donating? Wouldn't that be against our win condition?
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sdg wrote:
What's the point of donating? Wouldn't that be against our win condition?


I guess you could make yourself less of a target for a few rounds by having near to or no money, then rob someone else. Like real business, or something!

[vote:GazChap] because he's a rich bugger irl. :)
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As if.
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A good point, well argued.

[vote:unvote]
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Cras wrote:
And there's no point them framing townies by giving them money, because we keep that money even if a townie dies - so they'd just be adding to our total.


From the rules:

Trooper wrote:
If someone dies, their money does not count to the faction total, it only counts for the individual competition.
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I don't think I've grasped what's going on here at all. I thought the Mafia were openly discussing tactics but apparently not but the comments are all framed in a way that's weird and confused me.

So, if someone could summarise later on then that'd be great.
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Zeppo wrote:
Cras wrote:
And there's no point them framing townies by giving them money, because we keep that money even if a townie dies - so they'd just be adding to our total.


From the rules:

Trooper wrote:
If someone dies, their money does not count to the faction total, it only counts for the individual competition.


Oh. My plan sucks then.
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Yeah, mine too.

I thought we could beat the Mafia by just lynching the richest person each day. That would 'lock in' their money for the Town.

Turns out that it doesn't work that way
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Well I'll [vote:Curiosity] for trying to make us kill every town member with money.
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sdg wrote:
Well I'll [vote:Curiosity] for trying to make us kill every town member with money.


Meep!
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I have no idea what's going on.
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It does seem to be a crapshoot, with no way to actually tell who anyone else is.

I think the secondary goal is actually the primary goal.
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I don't see why just amassing money won't work?
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Bobbyaro wrote:
I don't see why just amassing money won't work?

Because someone will steal it from you when they can make more by stealing than by making.
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Look what I found!

http://www.beexcellenttoeachother.com/counter/quiet.php
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I think we should all learn some lessons of the past and so I'm going to vote for the quietest one on the list, which is...

[vote: slightly green]
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