By the time you read this, the clocks will probably have changed and stuff.

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I wonder if my phone will be a cunt again come alarm time on Monday. Did they ever fix that?

It's bad when you wake up precisely when the clocks change, after a nine hour nap, and have no frame of reference for which half of my clocks have done themselves and are right, and which half are wrong.

I much prefer the spring change, following which one may mooch into work on Monday an hour late and play dumb.

Uh... I already have the summertime box unchecked and it's still an hour too fast.

Mine was fine this morning.

So is it just me that the clock has been messed up for ages, or are we just used to it now? I've turned off dst, but it's still an hour fast.

Change your time zone, then.

I didn't realise we'd moved.

Smooth journey, huh?

Bit wet though.

They're on about changing the clocks next year so that summer is BST +1 and winter is GMT +1.

I wish they'd just leave it on BST all year really.

Same here

I can't get the "world clock" on my phone to change, fucking piece of shit. Androids a bollocks!

Could someone tell me why it would be a bad thing for Scotland to have its own timezone, if they're worried about it getting too dark? Multiple timezones aren't uncommon in large states, and whilst a north/south split would be a bit of an oddity, I can't see how it would cause too much cross-border problems.

Miss Malabar's was also fine this morning. Excellent. Now, watch as it fucks up tomorrow.

I've moved to Cape Verde. Is it still the mango season?

They always say it. But once again the Scotch have vetoed it.

Anyone old enough to remember when it happened in the 70s?

I'd be happy with that, or moving to CET. Unfortunately, the idiot Tories have screwed their attempt to change time-zones by stating it would have to have the agreement of all four UK components. If they had any balls (which they don't), they'd state the three-year CET trial is going ahead an give the Scots an opt-out.

Still, it's interesting to see the Scots banging on about how terrible it would be to be on CET, given that the argument now appears to entirely revolve around kids going to school in the dark for a short part of the year, as opposed to kids returning from school in the dark, as they often do now, and the dark afternoons evenings in the northern isles, which tend to be ignored entirely. And what's more terrible is a Scottish parliament using points-scoring to stop a change that could very much benefit the majority of the country, not least given that at least half the Scots I know aren't against the trial anyway. Gah.

It's much less hassle to do things at different times rather than change the clocks so you can carry on doing things at the same times for no logical reason.

I live in Scotland. If it's too fucking dark at 9am, have the kids school from 10am-4pm. If that's a problem for parents, tough shit, don't have kids then, etc.

Or y'know, turn on your lights when you drive, or use a torch when you walk. THE DARK is hardly mankind's greatest obstacle.

You do?

I used to hate going to school on the dark when I was young. I'd rather walk home in the dark as there were generally more people around at 3:30-5pm than there were at 7:30-8am, plus I used to walk to school alone, but found that you tend to leave school all at once so have others you know around you for most/all of your journey for the walk back home.

I thought he lived in Manchester, but that was a few years ago.

You all suck at stalking, I've been up here for the last couple of years.

MsZ is still on BST.

6am wake up call/cry/moan today

I feel your pain. The boys were up at 5.50.

Oh yeah, got her one of those sleep clocks that you mentioned Grim... and it's been great but today as she stormed into our room she said, 'but my clock is still blue daddy!'

They are really good.
"If the sun isn't up, you're not up."

Yeah, that didn't work today.

My eyes are burning.

That is awesome
Been thinking of getting one of these once Little Miss Dom starts talking - any good (cheap) links?

Pretty much the same price all over, we got ours from Amazon...

...and it's cheaper now £22.49

http://www.amazon.co.uk/GroCompany-HJ00 ... B002APJCNE

which one are those?

*Glances at post above*

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Had some people griping about this on Twitter yesterday, including someone who wanted the UK to remain on GMT all year, because the clock changes did him in. I noted it'd get light at around 3am in the summer, and said perhaps CET all year would be better. "But then I wouldn't get a bit of daylight in December when driving to work." That wee bit of light versus not sleeping properly for a couple of months—great trade! (Having lived in Iceland, I oddly ended up finding the light summers significantly harder to deal with than dark mornings in winter. YMMV.)

Sad email from Lighter Later this weekend, too, throwing in the towel for the year and maturely avoiding reminding everyone how their campaign was fucked by an idiot Tory. Still, nothing's going to change, so I guess those of us who'd like lighter evenings should get used to that fact. That said, it'll be interesting to see whether Lighter Later makes good on its promise this year to track things related to darker evenings (road deaths—especially of kids, depression, etc.)

I would also like it to stay the same all year. I'm not really bothered by light mornings or evenings, so I don't mind which way it goes.

Clocks went back last night, in case, like me, you forgot and have been up since 6:30am.

I've been up since before 06:00, but then I did go on a 28km walk to the seaside and back. (btw the beach was heaving, easily over 150 people at 09:00 on Sunday Morning in late October

Annoying for me since I've started a watch collection. I had to reset three of them. Luckily my (sort of) fancier watch connects to the atomic clock and so pressing a button made it sync to the correct time.

None of my mechanical watches are on winders, so they always need to be set when I put a new one on

Didn't affect me as there was a free bar last night. sadly woke up without an inflatable flamingo.

Helen left for Australia at 3am on Friday so I had to take over the early dog walk (the dog does not rate my success highly). FedEx decided to deliver my wipeout book between 8 and 12 that day, actually arriving at 9. Good job I took the day off because I was ruined.

On Saturday, I fell asleep on the sofa and woke with a start thinking I must have missed the late afternoon dog walk. It wasn't even time for the midday walk yet.

Then the fucking clocks changed.

I've got my smart watch set up to sow the sunrise and sunset times, I really like having that available.

What I'd enjoy trying, although I'm not sure if it's available or if it would be too complicated, would be some 24 hour watchfaces, would be super cool to have one with light/dark hours shown as segments on the face - i think it'd be neat to see those represented as portions.

Idly musing this morning I thought it's 2024, why aren't we at the point where if we're going to insist on changing the clocks why aren't we at least doing it daily, surely we have this shit sorted out by now.

(The reality is that as a global software industry we absolutely do not have this shit sorted out, it's sticking plasters all the way down, and quite a few are those crappy ones that don't stick to anything)

As well as all the clocks in the hoose, I managed to change the time on the cooker, microwave, TV, dash cam and car without referring to any of the manuals.

We got a pair of hisense ovens when doing the kitchen. Fancy internet enabled ones. Can set nearly everything from the app and online account, including the time - but they don't auto-update, and it's not possible to sync devices, so they're currently an hour out *and* differ by 10 seconds.

This mildly irritates me.

I hadn’t adjusted my alarm clock, so it caught me out this morning when I glanced at the time and didn’t roll over and try to sleep again.

I'm nervous about the idea of things that don't need to be on the internet being on the internet just in case they decide to turn off the servers and turn the thing into a big paperweight.

That said, the idea of being able to tell Alexa to start preheating the oven is kind of cool.

No, it's kind of hot.

The Internet of Things is something I've tried to ignore on any devices that just don't need it. I've already ranted about the Hive hub that I have no intention of using, and I saw no point in adding our tumble drier either. My router is already coping with far more devices than is good for it so I'm not going to use bandwidth on unnecessary crap.

The ovens and the hob both let you send settings to them.

But for safety reasons you have to go over and press a button on the device itself to start them.

I'm sure there's a button combo to turn that off but if I did that I wouldn't get to whine about it!

The only actual useful thing is the ability to link devices so that the extractor could be turned on automatically. But of course the hisense and neff (and liebherr, for a new fridge) implementations don't play together. Well, that and the extractor isn't WiFi.