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I think itis time I got an all in one printer or is it better to have seperate scanner and printer.

In either case can you recommend me some stuff?

Do you want inkjet? Do you need colour?

I got fed up with shitty inkjets so got a Xerox Phaser 6130 colour laser instead. It's fab.

However I at home I have an all in one Xerox workcentre thing which has a scanner and a b/w laser in it. Cheap as chips but only got it as Xerox didn't do a cheap b/w laser without a scanner on it.

Inkjet can GTFF.

I have an inkjet at the moment.

i don't think I have the space for a huge laser printer.

Been looking at the HO ones, just not sure which models to get.

Whatever you do, don't get one of these.

Loads of people have had problems (including myself and Cpt_Droman) getting the drivers to work properly on machines that aren't a fresh install. Reformatting my PC just to get printer drivers working? That can GTFF.

So not that HP one?

Don't get one of these either:

it's a bit crap

Also don't get one of these as it's fucking massive and it probably won't fit:


Also neither of these have a built in scanner.

I refuse to buy any more HP products after the absolute arseache I had with that fucking thing.

Or the one we have, because that won't, either.

I have one of these if anyone is interested:



And yes, it will work on any PC that has a parallel port despite being 23 years old.

i used to have one of those...

You have Vista drivers for that, then?

As I now work for HP, I can't comment on the standard of our hardware

Oh yeah, I knew there was another reason.

Seriously, the only inkjet I now have is the pro CD/DVD printer I have which runs on HP carts. And every so often I'm reminded what an arseache inkjets are when the prints go streaky etc.

Laser is so cheap now. Xerox do some cracking units. Yes there is the size problem but all the arseache goes away and Xerox customer service is excellent (when my printer developed a fault they fixed it on site rather than me having to send it off).

Avoid those small footprint Samsungs though. They are shit and mine was disposed of within 9 months.

pfft, I don't have anything to do with production

It's a chance I'm not prepared to take.

Git

I don't have Vista, but if Vista can drive a basic Epson dot matrix then it will work just dandy. Amstrad built the DMP2000 to the Epson standard after criticism of their first printer (the DMP 1). Any Epson 9 pin driver (which almost certainly comes included with Vista) will drive it. I don't imagine they would have dropped support as you still see dot matrix printers used in industrial applications which are driven on the Epson standard.

Industrial Dot Matrix printers are not cheap at all...

No, but part of that is volume. If my CD/DVD printer was produced in bulk no way would it cost approx £850. In fact the HP print engine inside it is probably only from a 100 quid printer. But since they are only produced in small quantities you pay the price.

Well, I'd advise to stay away from anything Lexmark because their home/small office level stuff is absolutely awful. Canon are generally thought to be a good idea though I once went through five of one model in the space of a month because the rollers wouldn't pick up the paper - eventually the shop allowed me my money back and I bought an HP. The HP Photosmart all in one I have has been pretty much perfect since I bought it - however, if i were to buy a new all in one I would definitely look into those new Kodak printers because if the quality is decent then genuine Kodak cartridges for £9.99 (colour and £6.99p black are a bargain - I haven't seen one working though so don't know about the print quality, though I'd definitely be looking into it if I were in the market for a new machine.

Also, I have a little daisy wheel printer with the little plastic tabs for each character and seperate wheels for different fonts. It is made of

Canon are shit - every Canon printer I've ever had jammed constantly after it tried to pull 30 sheets of paper in at once.

Lexmark are beyond shit. They are pretty much the reason people accept that it's often cheaper to buy a new printer in the sales than to replace the cartridge.

Epson are okay.

HP are very okay - but my Laserjet gives me headaches because when I log onto it to fiddle with the settings, it protests that it 'is not compatible with Mac OS'. What, your fucking Java-based web interface doesn't work with a standard browser? Fuck off.

B&W Lasers... I like shades of grey and crisp text.

Also cheap canon scanner shouldn't cost much. How much scanning do you do?

Also think if one breaks will you have to replace the entire unit? or just buy a better one.

Not a lot of scanning, just I have to send a scan of my wedding Certificate off, but don't have a scanner.

Have you got a decent digital camera?

I am reliably informed that they are much, much better these days - ever since we went all WiFi on them.

However, as I am currently posting this from a computer in Lexmark's UK head office, you'll forgive me for not discussing them too much.

Oooh - if you buy a laser I can diagnose the fault for you if it goes wrong! I'm sure that'll be loads of help for you, knowing what's wrong with your printer before you invariably chuck it out the window!

Yes a Kodak 8mp.. That is an idea.

BTW if buying a printer then Printerland are awesome:

http://www.printerland.co.uk/

When I got fed up with my Samsung I rang them up described my problems and they recommended the Xerox. It really is worth speaking to them because quite frankly they could have sold me something more expensive but didn't.

Of course I should mention they accidently sold me a non Mac compatible version of the Xerox (to be fair even Xerox's documentation was confusing) but it was all easily resolved.

thanks for that Chinny.. If they recommend a HP, I can get one hevily discounted from my overlords.

i have one one HP (i think it's the psc2100 or something) for 6 years and never had any problems with it.

I am now officially having traumatic flashbacks.

The horror... the horror...

Hah, same. It's been a couple of years since I used a printer any bigger than my home's Canon ip3000, and I don't miss it in the slightest.

Printing at that size and volume is incredibly stressful and boring.

the worst part is when you have to cut the paper and fold it.

FWIW I have a HP c7280 and cant fault it for my uses (photocopy, fax, print, photoprint)
and it was less than £120 6 months ago. no doubt better/cheaper available now. added boon is its also wireless.

Didn't we have a similar conversation once before?

We had a proper 'commercial office quality' Lexmark in my old job, because we'd print hundreds of pages a day. It always jammed, never pulled from the right tray, smeared the text. In the end the IT department got so fed up with having to constantly come and repair it that they just picked it up off the desk and deliberately dropped it on the floor so it broke and said, 'Oh, that's broken, that is. Best order you a new HP printer'.

When I finally got fed up of my 9 month old Samsung that they refused to repair, I took it outside, dropped it on concrete and then beat the living shit out of it.

Whilst at University when the computer club's Atari ST and A500 broke within a few weeks of each other, we chucked them out of a 3rd floor window to see which one had better aerodynamic lift.

I think the A500 travelled about twice as far as the ST.

Malc

Good upgrade route that. 16 bit computers to 128 bit computers within seconds.

Don't suppose you remember what model it was did you?

Tray problems - incorrect settings.
Jamming - fuck knows, could be any number of things. They normally display an error code that tells us guys exactly what it is that's causing the jam.
Smearing - fucked photodeveloper/charge roller/transfer roller/fuser/low-voltage power supply (delete as appropriate).

My job is to provide tech support for the office printers we supply to our large account customers. I try not to use the word 'fucked' when dealing with them though.

What all in one printer should I buy for £100? Wireless needed. Ta.

Don't, get a cheap laser.

Which one?

HP Instant Ink is really good if you do any sort of reasonably regular printing. (They offer it on most/all of their Inkjets I believe.)

We save a chunk of cash (compared to when we bought cartridges) and don't stress at all about how much we print, plus you can usually get a choice of their printers with some sort of cashback offer too.

It depends what your usage cycle is as to what model will work for you though. (We went with an OfficeJet model as we can sometimes rattle out some fairly serious numbers.)

Ahhh right you can still get the model we have, although it's gone up a bit (we got it for £100 after the cashback).

It depends what you need, cheap lasers can be a better bet for straightforward printing duties, but if you need more 'All In One' type functionality then an Inkjet still makes sense IMO.

I reviewed it here, we've had it nearly a year now - https://www.beexcellenttoeachother.com/ ... 78#p970778

This one.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Xpress ... ref=plSrch

How is that an All-In-One?

Even as a printer it doesn't have duplex.

Or..... Colour.

But it does fit the price criteria.

Mush them together.

£62 after cashback, Instant Ink eligible.