CUS wrote:
Mr Chris wrote:
No, I'm not wrong that I've found that people tend to remember "Laid" rather than "Sit Down". I sympathise with you that that awful song "Sit Down" is the one that's stuck with you and that you've missed out on the excellence of "Laid", but there we are.
Yeah, but are you smiling and saying 'Surely you remember Laid more?' in a charismatic fashion?
Oh, but of course.
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REM did "Shiny Happy People", so everyone has off days.
REM have been largely shite now for over a decade.
It's the thumbscrews for you soon, matey.
Alright, some of their most recent stuff has been awful, but, for instance, New Adventures in Hi Fi was a really nice album, with some pretty interesting tunes on it. Monster was execrable, of course.
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I'm not sure that anyone except you has ever made a big deal out of the falsetto. And why would they? Plenty of other male singers do it, and it's hardly a ground breaking technique or anything.
When they came back with the album which 'She's A Star' is on, I kept seeing them on the Chart Show and other such insipid shows. All just playing the same 'STARRRRRRR' bit whilst saying 'You have a lovely voice, tell us about how you keep it so lovely'. Gnurgh.
More a problem with insipid TV people, surely?
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Say what you like about how shit Simply Red and Mick Hucknall's Pink Pancakes are, but they're not insignificant in terms of presence in the market. In talent, yes, but not sales.
Fairly weak arugment there, man.
Well, Simply Red have just been put on ice actually, they no longer exist.
In any case, my argument is that having strong sales is no mark of quality, only of popularity. And popularity is no mark of quality, only of persuasion.
Indeed, I completely agree. But being popular (a) does make you slightly more than being "massively insignificant" and (2) doesn't make you shit.
Bluce_Ree wrote:
well, regardless of that James got their onstage arses handed to them by The Cure, Lush and All About Eve that day.
As I'd imagine, as they're better than James.
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Never heard 'Laid'. although they probably played it.
Honestly, it's not bad.
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She's A Star was them? I thought that was Suede. that song could make this album.
And you're dissing Suede as well? Heavens.
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that said (read: olive branch), bad (read: not to my taste) late 80s/early 90s indie was vastly better than mid 90s-present day indie.
I think indie music was fine up til about 1999*. It's a big shite Fratellis-filled sock of poo now though.
*I was OF COURSE a huge fan of the usual suspects such as the Bluetones, Pulp, Supergrass, Elastica, Boo Radleys, Blur, Lush, Gene, Kenickie, Sleeper, Molly Half Head, and so on and so forth, all of which I'm sure you consider to be shite, middle of the road rubbish. HOWEVER, as the 90s were my formative teenage years I suspect that has a lot to do with it - everyone loves the music they grew up with.