Be Excellent To Each Other

You know the drill by now. This is a fairly basic MafiaScum game, with a few roles that should hopefully make things interesting. The rules are in the rules thread, I'll be looking for around twenty players, and I've listed the roles below. I'll start a signup thread during the week.

1 Photographer
0 -1 Hooker
2 Selfish Lovers*
1 Mafia Godfather
2-4 Mafia Goons
0-1 Mafia Blackmailer
0-1 Census Taker
0-1 Policeman
1 Doctor
8-14 Vanilla Townies
1 Serial Killer

*The lovers may have other roles aside from just being lovers.























Win conditions:

• Town: All mafia and the serial killer are dead.
• Lovers: You must both survive to the end of the game. This win condition replaces any win condition you may have from any other role you may have.
• Mafia: The serial killer must be dead, and the mafia must equal or beat the town's numbers, preventing a lynch.
• SK: Kill everyone.

In terms of the person getting blackmailed, do you mean they have to post on the thread when there online on the forum straight away? or just in their first post before the day ends?

As soon as they can (requires a little trust, I agree) - so no sneaking in a vote just before a lynch.

Love some of the new roles!

Selfish lovers would appear to be a shit role, if you don't know who the other is and you can't communicate.

Selfish lovers would appear to be a shit role, if you don't know who the other is and you can't communicate.

It looks like you know who the other is, but you're not allowed to talk to them.

Welll, that's less shit, but it still seems like a role where you've got to avoid losing, rather than trying to win.

Yeah, I think if I was one, I'd like to have another role as well. It's going to be hard though if you have to risk exposing yourself if your lover looks like they're going to get lynched, and obviously you've got twice as much chance of being offed during the night phase.

And then there is the potential tragedy of the serial killer being one of the lovers. How will it end???

One and the same thing, surely? You'll be protecting your lover in the same way that Mafia would be protecting each other.

But if the heat is on for one of the mafia, it's in the best interests of the others to let him die to protect themselves.

Indeed - so the other lover has to come up with a way of diverting the suspicion off that person without making themselves look like scum. It will need clever play.

I'll be upset if Craster doesn't fix it so the lovers are the Mafia Don and the Cop.

I won't say I didn't briefly consider it.

RomeoAndJulietScum.

I realise this is a little late since the roles have already gone out but can I suggest an update to one of them :

For the hooker , would it not be ... errr .... appropriate for their target to know they have been "blocked" , even if they didnt have an action.

(Just me thinking if I was so distracted overnight I think I would remember it the next day even if I wasnt suppose to be doing anything else that night :-)

Mafiascum kinda relies on these little logical failures. Everyone would know who the mayor was in other games too for instance.

What he said. I agree it makes a little less sense - but then the hooker's only a hooker rather than a 'Townie Roleblocker' so I can (perhaps) send someone a PM saying "You are a hooker".

Or "you spent last night with a hooker" :-)

I'm not posting this in the thread because its not really about the current game but a suggestion for future games



This can happen quite a lot , and for the town I wonder if it would be a good idea to have something like

[vote:sheep]

This would be read as as soon as there is enough of a bandwagon that my vote would tip the scales (as long as its not a vote for me) then i'd vote for that person.

For the town often lynching anyone is better than letting the day time out , and we have the situation where people would happy to vote for just about anyone when the final minutes are ticking down

It would probably mean re-writing the vote counter and basically just meaning 1 vote less for a lynch.

I can see people saying "well i wouldnt have voted for that person" ,and i suppose it can also be used as a cop out for others but I can see it helping both the town and at times the Mafia (easier for them to railroad)

The first time I read that I wondered why you wanted to vote for Sheepeh.

It would just be another way to blend in effectively. I'd say no. You vote for who you want to die the most. Simple.

I think it's a bad idea. Too open for abuse - and you should never just vote for "anyone".

I kind of like the idea, it's only automating what most people do anyway.
It's not right though, and I don't think we should be encouraging people to just vote for whoever has the most votes.

I think this is a terrible, terrible idea. It's playing right into the mafia's hands.

10 votes needed.

Stalemate at 5.

4 mafia.

Oh good they can't bandwagon.

Oh wait, yet they can because idiot townie Dave just elected himself to the mafia but agreeing to vote for whomever they like.

Clear scum tell.

[vote:zaph...

I kid, I kid.

I dunno - it would be properly funny if the guy up for the chop was the sheep voter