Be Excellent To Each Other

No they would stay quiet , however i thought you were saying that everyone *after* Mr Russ who was asking to see the bit of paper would be 'good' , i think Mr Russ pretty much has marked himself out as a guest.

If he was a power role for the good side he probably wouldnt have asked for the paper , or wouldnt have announced it

No, just reacting to 401848234s frothing.

Aww, Poor Gilly. I'd be siding with her, at least.

Well, what a bloody surprise that was.

/sarcasm

Well, quite.

Still not sure why Craster was supposed to be so suspicious...

Because he's always guilty, if he's not dead apparently.

Quite. Surely Grim... will get kicked out tomorrow?

It'll be interesting to see who goes tonight.

Mr Russ seems a good bet. Crashers may go for him and hope for another two hit like last night, giving a larger hiding pool, as well as some deprivation of information.
However, I don't see the Ex going for him, as he's surely not the bride.
And given that, the Crashers may choose someone else too.

If he does survive, expect much frothing.

Pfah. People are being led around by the nose. Bad guys:

Grim...
Kalmar

Oh hello, this must be the morgue. Aye, so you say something then you must be a bad 'un or say nothing and you are a bad 'un. Do they never learn? To be honest on the first day I had forgotten we had started and then the second day I thought it wasn't starting until later that day (my fault rather than anyone elses) by which time I was chucked out.

Ho and indeed hum.

As would I , its very rare for a "baddie" to get that enthusiastic about everything , the real problem they have now is what happens tomorrow.

If i was on the bad side and Grim... was not then wiping out Gill would be a good move because it points *lots* of fingers at him

Somewhat amazingly, every single win condition is still achievable.

Especially if they KILL GRIM... RIGHT NOW.

Crashers are still favourites.

WHAT THE FUCK, GILL!?

Genuine lolz at her second post.

Haha, brilliant.

It is amusing, given Albino's rants in the last dead thread about how stupid the 'townies' were, that he's being as stupid as they were, but in this game.

He's either a bad guy, or has played an appalling game. From your comment, I'm guessing the later.

I'm quite glad I got killed early on, this is pretty good fun from the sidelines.

See, our Gilly is lovely. (Also possibly a bored guest/ex)

Yeah, I just got told she wasn't a crasher. Not sure who invited the ex though.
I had no real idea who to go for so just went for a stab in the dark hoping to hit a crasher.

Its all gone mad now , does 21346326 really believe a best man claim is good ?

If I was the Groom, I'd roleclaim Best Man.

The Crashers really want to get rid of the Best Man, as he can expose them if they go for the Groom.

Of course, the downside is that they can get killed next round, and it would thusly ruin their win condition... but it'd be really funny.

Thing is the couple have the hardest win condions of all , they need to have *all* the baddies gone and both make it to the end - although statistically possible its gotta be the most unlikely of outcomes at this point.

At this point it is staggeringly unlikely.

They should get a secondary win condition of just getting rid of the baddies, really.

Oh no! Roleclaim
Oh no! Counter Claim

Brilliant. They're going to lynch the real photographer, then turn on the other one who'll probably be a guest anyway.
I love this game (although it's better when you're not on the side of the town )

So, what do people reckon re: who the real photographer is?

Madness , Grim...'s descriptions sound perfectly plausable , but so did SDG , she may have been thinking there is no photographer or we have a fight :-)

If i had to back one right now i'd go for SDG , and that one of her early pictures said Grim... is bad (but everyone knows my record on spotting baddies)

Well, I know that SDG was invited, but I guess that means she could still be the vengeful-ex or the reckless guest.
Her "I'm the photographer, but now I have to go" post buys her a bit of time to come up with a follow-up.
Grim...'s counter-claim was ridiculously swift though, you'd expect him to want to consider his options regardless of whether he's the real photographer, unless he'd been planning a role-claim. His descriptions are convincing, but not exactly useful.

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If SDG was the vengefull ex then Grim...'s picture would have shown her poisoning someones food
She still could be the reckless guest but then your going to believe that she's found one of the crashers (despite everyone else not being able to)

Or of course she could be vanilla and trying it on - it seems to make more sense that she's the photographer because she was so passionate about getting rid of Grim... i think its her way of knowing something but not knowing how to communicate it

If you were always the nominated killer, you'd put in place some kind of cover in case the photographer caught you. It would make sense.

Gill false claiming, not so much. It's a risk a bad guy would not have to take.

Let's wait to see what she actually has to say first.

Well, that would depend on whether or not Grim... was the real photographer.
Her descriptions are better too. Wonder who's lying? (probably Grim... )

And the PM's with Curio's sig in there ring true - is it possible the town may *not* have actually lost yet ?

If she's faked them, then it's a nice touch. At least she didn't just post a screenshot of the bloody things.

and Kalmar as a confirmed 'good' person ignores SDG's request and votes straight away :-)

As far as I'm concerned cutting and pasting PMs is fine, taking screenshots not fine.

Grim: "It's not exactly hard to fake something like that. Bear in mind that it took her seven minutes to copy and paste three "messages"."

Grim... fails basic arithmatic. Four messages. Add to that having to get to a computer, and typing the rest of the message. 7 minutes is reasonable.

And what's that you say? Not hard to fake a photographer role claim?

It's typed, that's fine. It takes no technical skill to just write something out.

Next person to vote for themself in a huff, or because they're trying to evoke some sort of sympathetic reaction should be kicked out the game and banned from the next one (unless they can successfully argue it's not against their win condition).

Doing it to evoke a sympathetic reaction wouldn't be against their win condition though.

I agree , however I wouldnt have done it , and for this it really comes down to Curio's take on things , if he decides that bad enough he could remove her from the game but its his call.

The rules on this are slightly ambigous :

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1413

5) You may not use out-of-game information within the game. This includes, but may not be limited to:

* Quoting PMs from the game admin
* Posting screenshots of anything
* Commenting on user login times or other user behaviour observed using forum features

She cut n pasted rather than quoted.

Well, If Grim... has been caught, killing himself off ASAP is rather in his interests.

Yip - first excitement in the game in a while :-)

My ruling was that it's dodgy ground, but Grim... effectively started it by doing a fake C&P, so turnaround is fair play.

I would have baulked at screenshots.

Ok, so overnight, Gill takes another picture.

Mr Dom/Grim... will be nominated killer, so if they hit the groom, poor luck for town given the info gained is useless.
So She may get the ex, possibly. Although I'd imagine the ex will be very quick to grab the photo when she dies.

It'll be interesting to see if anyone claims that photo publicly or not.

Nice

No, overnight Gill gets killed by the Crashers!

Yes, but surely photo comes before kill (Like Joans check of list on the first night did)
And there's some kind of precedent set for information to be left lying around after death