Be Excellent To Each Other

See this is what I'm worried about, too... but then you would say that. And why would he put himself on the line like that? If we vote for you and you turn out to be a DAC or marine, then he's pretty much dead.

I'm tempted to vote for you simply to find out whether DavPaz has information or is just being a git, but I'm not ready yet. I just can't help feeling he wouldn't be stupid enough to lead a vote if he didn't know something.

We just really, really need to get an alien today.

We definitely need to catch an alien.

They have the Queen, and 2-4 warriors (probably 3). That's getting scarily close to a winning team already.

Actually, it's just about feasible they only have 1 warrior, but very unlikely. I think we have to assume they're the main threat.

So what I'm saying, is Company People - please stop nancying around and kill some goddamn aliens!

I didn't say it was a roleclaim. I just said he'd be making himself a target for baddies.

Unless he is a baddie, in which case this is a clever double bluff. If you turn out to be innocent, DavPaz will perish tomorrow.

I'm completely torn on this one. My head says to vote for Craster, because we've got nothing else, but my gut is telling me not to and I'm not sure why.

It would probably be a lot clearer if I had some damn coffee.

I can't believe how easy it seems to have been to convince you, is all.

"Vote Craster - I have my reasons"

"Oh, OK - you wouldn't have said that if you were a bad guy, I will!"

No other reason other than Davpaz said so. Smells a bit suspicious, no?

Correction - if we send him out to pilot the dropship and he's innocent DavPaz will say "oh i really though it was him - i'm just a DAC and it was a mistake - i was really sure it was him" and it might turn out to be true (like the "i'm Peck" - "No *I'M* Peck" thing).

I think what's bothering me is that DavPaz's vote for Craster came on its own, followed by the "I have reasons" afterwards when he was called on it. If he had reasons, surely he'd have said so in the first post?

Well yes - that and the fangirl response it received. Come on people, you know how hard it is to get a vote started against someone in this game - it's never been possible to say something that weak and get two immediate follow-on votes.

Never?

And no-one will believe him so he'll be voted out of the colony anyway.

Or at least, that's what I'd hope.

Never, unless it's a team effort to do so, or you've just named someone random and Gazchap has gone "excellent, he's put forward someone who isn't one of us. Let's get this vote moving!".

My gut says Craster is innocent.

Which means that DavPaz is either a rubbish bad guy or a very misguided DAC - and is a liability either way.

Fuck it.

[vote:DavPaz]

I'll change to get a lynch, though - probably even to Craster, but I'll be in "told you so" mode all day tomorrow if he's good.

Your gut's gonna get you killed, soldier!

VOTE UPDATE

zaphod79: 1 (Bobbyaro)
goddess jasmine: 2 (Mr Dom, Terimahkaseh)
davpaz: 2 (Mr Dave, The Rev Owen)
mr russell: 2 (Grim..., superdupergill)
craster: 3 (GazChap, DavPaz, zaphod79)

Not voted: 7 (craster, curiosity, goddess jasmine, joans, kalmar, morte, mr russell)

With 17 players alive, 9 votes are required for a lynch, and 13 nolynch votes are required to not lynch anybody.

http://www.beexcellenttoeachother.com/counter/

Something of a spread vote, there. I'd rather vote for Gazchap than DavPaz, but I don't want to add to the list. [vote:DavPaz]

Do you want to give us a bit more of a clue as to why you're so sure about Craster then, DavPaz?

Bit late to backpedal now, Gaz.

Nothing he's said has contradicted my suspicions.

Hmm... So...
DavPaz & Gaz together trying to push another person shortly after we discuss the need to get hold of the aliens. I suspect a panicked response to the idea of having both company & marines hunting their slimy asses down, so big hairy FoS on Dav & Gaz for that.
If anything, Gaz's response (based on so very little reason from Dav) is also a pointer that Gaz just wants to get *someone* else on the line & fast, which is a typical panic response from a lurking baddie.

So, atm I figure it to be:
Gaz - 75% likelihood of being an Alien
Dav - 50/50 alien/deluded DAC (Dav gets some credit for being useful & on the ball colony wise earlier)

I would suggest Gaz for the alternative to GJ (who I put as 95% company stooge)

I object to being 'deluded'.

I've no intention of backpedalling until DavPaz says something that bothers me.

FoS me all you like, Dom. If I was a lurking baddie, why would I be panicking? The baddies haven't really suffered much so far this game, so wouldn't have any cause for panic IMO.

Why would I want to get someone else on the line, when there wasn't really anyone on the line to start with?

Your reasons are all messed up, and the only reason your post hasn't put you on my FoS list is because you were bang-on with kalmar.

Yeah, I think you and Craster are right about GazChap being more suspicious than DavPaz. He's more likely to be an alien and we need one of those.

I'm going to change vote.

[vote: GazChap]

Lulz.

I missed this.

So what you're saying is that all you have are suspicions, and no concrete evidence as you originally suggested?

Hang on, your implicaton here is that you have only now decided to consider getting the aliens?? (Company?) And furthermore, you don't know who the aliens are, so why would they panic and block vote? If anything, your response sounds more like defence of Craster!

That said, Gazchap's behviour is pretty weird here, suddenly trusting DavPAz for no reason.

I'm fucking confused now. I think I should have stuck with DavPaz. Or maybe Craster is actually the fucking alien queen. I don't fucking know.

ARGH.

In fairness, when I said that in another life, I was right.

I also role-claimed, of course.

My Biscuits!

The world is dead to me now.

*facepalm*

I have a reason, and it's a reason I've explained numerous times already. If DavPaz is a nobody who knows jack shit, or a baddie, and his offensive action against Craster shows Craster as being innocent, DavPaz will be voted out the following day. He would presumably know this, and would therefore (hopefully) not say anything unless he's absolutely sure of it.

Of course, now he's implied that all he has is suspicion and not evidence. Which is annoying, as it means that if I change my vote now it's going to look even more suspicious on my part. I'm still happy with my vote at this stage, but I'm much less sure of it following DavPaz's "Nothing he's said has contradicted my suspicions." post.

[vote:gazchap]

[vote: unvote]

I'm just really not sure any more. GazChap is actually making a decent case in his own defense.

Ha! Brilliant.

Just kidding for the lulz. Gotta keep the morale up.

[vote:crater]

Three things spring to mind, and none of them support my current vote.

1) DavPaz is a DAC and voted for Craster to see if anybody would immediately jump on the vote train. He's now voted for me under the illusion (and believe me, it is an illusion) that I'm a baddie trying to boost an offensive on Craster.

2) DavPaz and Craster are good guys and are able to communicate and this has been an intensely elaborate plan along the same lines as number 1.

3) DavPaz is a bad guy messing with us all.

I really don't think number three applies here. One thing that is for certain is that DavPaz clearly isn't as sure about Craster as he is apparently sure about me, which implies that his reasons for voting for Craster were based on nothing after all. With that in mind, [vote:unvote].

OK, perhaps number three does apply after all. Although is the misspelling in that vote deliberate?

Sorry Gaz. Could have saved you the typing there.

Damn these spacky DAC issue gloves

[vote:craster]

Misspelling.

Well, I've no idea what's going on now.

*eats Dave's biscuits*

He ate my biscuits. I don't care whether he's an alien, a company man, a marine or a colonist. All I care about is revenge for my biscuits.

[vote:DavPaz] he is sowing confusion like a confusion farmer might sow seeds of confusion to grow more confusion and then harvest that confusion in an attempt to provide more confusion for the confused.

I'm confused.

[vote:bobbyaro]

You seem well suss. Like Phil Collins singing sussudio on a suspension bridge.

How do I seem suss? DavPaz is the one running around fingering people. Deliberately confusing people with NO evidence at all. I think Mr Dom is confused, and I think Craster is innocent, but DavPaz is behaving very strangely. Obviously, if DavPaz provides some evidence for these claims, then I shall rescind my vote and back track with much haste.

See!

But seriously, patience.

DavPaz appears to have lost it tbh.
If he is a DAC, then he has gone off the deep-end and is sowing more confusion than assistance...

Pardon? I'm a what now? Where did that come from?!

I do agree on the alien issue, they are certainly our biggest threat.

Wow, when I went to bed we seemed to be seriously suspicious of GJ and Mr Russell. Was that just me then?
So then I wake up and some madness has happened with DavPaz. Can anybody else check if DavPaz had made any other posts prior to voting Craster?