Knowing that Dudley was the recruiter, have we any thoughts on who he might have tried to recruit?

That last pile-on for Shin definitely was suspicious - she wasn't exactly subtle about announcing that she had some level of investigative ability, so the last push of votes rings alarm bells for me.

That means:
Gaywood (08:13)
Myp (08:54)
Joans (09:05)
Jasmine (09:14)

why have you voted for myp, zardoz?

It doesn't take a lot of co-ordination to say "guys, all vote for shin, but slowly".
Also, why are you determined to demonstrate a lack of alien/mafia involvement in Shin's lynching?

I'm not sure what to make of Goddess Jasmine's last-minute vote yesterday. She appeared to badger Joans into voting, despite him wanting to wait for Shin to appear with a defense, and then her vote was the final nail in her coffin.

Could be she noticed Shin's hint and wanted her out of the way so that she couldn't discover any Mafia?

I'm not sure what to make of Goddess Jasmine's last-minute vote yesterday. She appeared to badger Joans into voting, despite him wanting to wait for Shin to appear with a defense, and then her vote was the final nail in her coffin.

Could be she noticed Shin's hint and wanted her out of the way so that she couldn't discover any Mafia?

Seems like a good enough suspicion to me - [vote:Goddess Jasmine]

Yeah, I'm thinking more alien than Mafia. But it is (for obvious reasons) the votes after the power role reveal that are the suspicious ones.

You're assuming that people (a) paid any attention and (b) believed her.

This makes a lot of sense to me and it was the final vote when we didnt need one at that point - so i'd like to hear from GJ why she did this.

And while we're picking out who to vote for I'll put my vote where my mouth is :

[vote:Goddess Jasmine]

Just re-reading the last 2 pages of yesterday, Sir morte is coming across as pretty suspicious, firstly he voted for shin with the reasing 'he didnt trust any of us' which is obviously a good reason to vote for someone. Also he then said playing quiet can bring suspicion on yourself which is particularly strange because he seems to be playing a quiet game himself.

It seems though that it is suspicious if you post a lot (I'm staring at you Runcle...I've never noticed how close set your eyes are and that you have a unibrow) and it seems suspicious if you say nothing.

It seems though that it is suspicious if you post a lot (I'm staring at you Runcle...I've never noticed how close set your eyes are and that you have a unibrow) and it seems suspicious if you say nothing.

I can guarantee you that a team of bad guys will have done both. Individual posters may not, but bad-guy teams don't miss things like that.

I'm Kaiser Sozé.

Also I've pointed the figure at two players who have generally been quite quiet, and within half an hour Ive had a rebute off both, and zardoz has seemed to have twice as many posts today than the other 2 combined in his show for innocence that hadnt even had a single vote against him yet.

We should bear in mind that it's lunchtime, though. Note that GJ is still quiet.

I'm thinking now that maybe Runcle & Mr Dom are in cahoots.

zardoz has seemed to have twice as many posts today than the other 2

combined in his show for innocence that hadnt even had a single vote against him yet.

I dont understand what thats got to do with my point.

The fact that they turned up after you 'pointed the figure' could just be because it's lunchtime.

This isn't a major problem now that the recruiter's gone, there can only be a maximum of two Mafia members, and it's not definite that both of them are killers. There could be a roleblocker, which could work in our favour if they target the aliens.

I did notice this, which no-one has commented on:Might not mean anything, but it sounded to me a little like a Mafia player trying to downplay the threat to the town. Does anyone else agree?

Interestingly, if we assume that Zardoz is on to something and Runcle is evil (although it's clearly a shot in the dark unless Zardoz knows something and is just holding it extremely close to his chest) then Runcle's own coins thingie shows:

Zardoz 4 (and thus, evil)
Morte 0 (and therefore as pure as the driven snow, although he did apparently get 5 heads out of 5 on a different throw)
Runcle 2 (so pretty good, but then if he's bad he would put himself in the good category)
Goddess Jasmine 1

I've deliberately only picked out interesting ones.

So, if we assume that GJ is evil, and Runcle is too, and Runcle is now trying to deflect attention away from GJ on to Zardoz and Morte, then the coins show this.

Probably nothing, but given how everyone calls for Runcle to do his coins thing, if he was evil then it would present a fairly unique opportunity to try and sway the votes, with some careful fixing.

Maybe, but then the mafia isn't really much of a threat now, is it?

We know they have one killing role, so they are at least as powerful as the serial killer was. They have a 50/50ish (I think?) chance of a second power role, meaning they are much more powerful than the serial killer, BA, mason (unless there are four of them), or FBI factions.

You're assuming that people (a) paid any attention and (b) believed her.

When I saw that she had a role, I looked back over her posts and picked up on the 'kids' stuff, but she talks like that outside of the game too so I never picked up on it.

[vote:Zardoz]

I can rest easier if I know hes good or not.

Thinking on, if they do have two members, they might even be getting two kills/night from now on. The aliens might outnumber them, but they can only kill once per night.

Once someone is recruited to the Mafia they will be randomly assigned a job based on their skills.

Based on what skills? Does that mean that the Serial Killer (had he been recruited) definitely been a hitman? The Photographer would have been a bodyguard/roleblocker etc.