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GazChap wrote:

I've just caught up, and haven't got a goddamn clue what's going on here.

gospvg claimed at the start of day 2 that Cras was a baddie, apropos of nothing, which made me suspicious - even though that later turned out to be true (he was Scrooge, after all)

Thanks I also did say one day 1 that Kovac is an elf

gospvg wrote:

GazChap wrote:

Thanks I also did say one day 1 that Kovac is an elf

And how did you know?

Grim... wrote:

gospvg wrote:

GazChap wrote:

I've just caught up, and haven't got a goddamn clue what's going on here.
gospvg claimed at the start of day 2 that Cras was a baddie, apropos of nothing, which made me suspicious - even though that later turned out to be true (he was Scrooge, after all)

Thanks I also did say one day 1 that Kovac is an elf

And how did you know?

True I did not for sure but just a hunch like all the guesses most players (less investigate roles) are making.

gospvg wrote:

Grim... wrote:

gospvg wrote:

GazChap wrote:

I've just caught up, and haven't got a goddamn clue what's going on here.
gospvg claimed at the start of day 2 that Cras was a baddie, apropos of nothing, which made me suspicious - even though that later turned out to be true (he was Scrooge, after all)

Thanks I also did say one day 1 that Kovac is an elf

And how did you know?

True I did not for sure but just a hunch like all the guesses most players (less investigate roles) are making.

Ah, I see, so what you're saying is hunches can be good, right?

Grim... wrote:

Please - if I were a baddy I'd clearly get you to lynch gospvg.

We've probably very nearly done so with the confusion.

I have to say I'm totally torn (and indeed am staying with Joans as a quiet one for the time being) for who to vote for, because I don't know how you can be sure Davpaz is a baddy without an investigation role.

Unless they're a quiet bad guy, of course.

Well Nikachu was an elf and is now dead, so your list should only be four people long (and three obviously without me).

I do feel Christmassy this morning, all lovely and in the spirit of joyfulness.

What we know from yesterday (please feel free to add)

10 people voted to remove an Elf from the game
The Mafia targetted and removed an Elf from the game
The mad Elf targetted and removed an Elf from the game
The Marketing person did not target a baddie (anyone want to come forward and claim that they clockwork oranged into watching uplifting videos last night?)

Some notes were passed around (again anyone want to come forward as a recipient of a note and tell us what they said?)

Some special stuff may have happened (the two mystery roles)

I do think its fair to say that there will have been at least one baddie in the group that voted for Kov , however that really doesnt help us much - I also agree that targeting a silent one would be good as if they are good they are not contributing and are just giving the baddies a chance to slide along undetected so

[vote:joans]

So, to recap, Zaphod, some people did something and stuff happened. HOW INSIGHTFUL.

Or not. Y'see, this is the worse that I've seen you. You're normally so calm and collected and save your vote.

So, the hyper-analysis is suddenly absent and, in addition, at the moment we've seen you:

FLIM-FLAM your vote on Day 1.

JUMP AT THE CHANCE of voting for Silent Night when I done fucked up.

In fact, you were a little too keen for people to get their votes in that night,

But I accept that I'm basing that on only hunches rather than science. But, y'know, at least I'm trying to provide an explanation.

So I might as well stick my neck out and say [vote: zaphod79]

I'm still not sure about Gosvp but maybe he's just trying to hard. He probably has some sort of power role but I don't know what side.

And I appreciate the details (much more than "Grim...'s you should vote cause I said so")

sharp suit: 1 (Mr Russell Sprouts)
grim...: 1 (zaphod79)
gospvg: 2 (Trooper, DavPaz)
davpaz: 3 (Santanalian, Grim..., Bobbyaro)

Not voted: 5 (gospvg, gazchap, joans, sharp suit, goddess jasmine)

With 12 players alive, 7 votes are required for a lynch, and 7 nolynch votes are required to not lynch anybody.

http://www.beexcellenttoeachother.com/counter/work.php

Mr russ seems to be doing a lot to not for DavPaz. all of it a bit nonsensical.

Author:	Grim... [ Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:24 ]
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gospvg wrote: GazChap wrote: I've just caught up, and haven't got a goddamn clue what's going on here. gospvg claimed at the start of day 2 that Cras was a baddie, apropos of nothing, which made me suspicious - even though that later turned out to be true (he was Scrooge, after all) Thanks I also did say one day 1 that Kovac is an elf And how did you know?

Author:	gospvg [ Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:27 ]
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Grim... wrote: gospvg wrote: GazChap wrote: I've just caught up, and haven't got a goddamn clue what's going on here. gospvg claimed at the start of day 2 that Cras was a baddie, apropos of nothing, which made me suspicious - even though that later turned out to be true (he was Scrooge, after all) Thanks I also did say one day 1 that Kovac is an elf And how did you know? True I did not for sure but just a hunch like all the guesses most players (less investigate roles) are making.

Author:	Grim... [ Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:33 ]
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gospvg wrote: Grim... wrote: gospvg wrote: GazChap wrote: I've just caught up, and haven't got a goddamn clue what's going on here. gospvg claimed at the start of day 2 that Cras was a baddie, apropos of nothing, which made me suspicious - even though that later turned out to be true (he was Scrooge, after all) Thanks I also did say one day 1 that Kovac is an elf And how did you know? True I did not for sure but just a hunch like all the guesses most players (less investigate roles) are making. Ah, I see, so what you're saying is hunches can be good, right?

Author:	gospvg [ Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:38 ]
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Grim... wrote: gospvg wrote: Grim... wrote: gospvg wrote: GazChap wrote: I've just caught up, and haven't got a goddamn clue what's going on here. gospvg claimed at the start of day 2 that Cras was a baddie, apropos of nothing, which made me suspicious - even though that later turned out to be true (he was Scrooge, after all) Thanks I also did say one day 1 that Kovac is an elf And how did you know? True I did not for sure but just a hunch like all the guesses most players (less investigate roles) are making. Ah, I see, so what you're saying is hunches can be good, right? LOL !!

Author:	Bobbyaro [ Fri Dec 13, 2013 12:12 ]
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Mr Russell Sprouts wrote: Grim... wrote: Please - if I were a baddy I'd clearly get you to lynch gospvg. We've probably very nearly done so with the confusion. I have to say I'm totally torn (and indeed am staying with Joans as a quiet one for the time being) for who to vote for, because I don't know how you can be sure Davpaz is a baddy without an investigation role. Alert, alert, mafia scum detected, alert, alert!

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Author:	Curiosity [ Fri Dec 13, 2013 13:12 ]
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joans: 1 (Mr Russell Sprouts) davpaz: 2 (Grim..., Bobbyaro) grim...: 2 (zaphod79, DavPaz) gospvg: 2 (Trooper, Santanalian) Not voted: 5 (gospvg, gazchap, joans, sharp suit, goddess jasmine) With 12 players alive, 7 votes are required for a lynch, and 7 nolynch votes are required to not lynch anybody. http://www.beexcellenttoeachother.com/counter/work.php

Author:	Grim... [ Fri Dec 13, 2013 13:34 ]
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Author:	Trooper [ Fri Dec 13, 2013 13:37 ]
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Quiet game so far, come on people get involved

Author:	Trooper [ Fri Dec 13, 2013 13:40 ]
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Looking at the following Who are the quiet ones? Posts: Array ( [gospvg] => 31 [grim...] => 14 [zaphod79] => 13 [trooper] => 12 [santanalian] => 11 [davpaz] => 8 [bobbyaro] => 8 [goddess jasmine] => 3 [mr russell sprouts] => 3 [curiositree] => 2 [joans] => 2 [gazchap] => 1 [sharp suit] => 0 ) Characters: Array ( [gospvg] => 14376 [zaphod79] => 8275 [trooper] => 5501 [santanalian] => 3447 [grim...] => 2936 [davpaz] => 1394 [bobbyaro] => 1310 [curiositree] => 1083 [goddess jasmine] => 1049 [gazchap] => 722 [joans] => 684 [mr russell sprouts] => 560 [sharp suit] => 0 ) http://beexcellenttoeachother.com/counter/quiet.php Why the Joans vote still? If we are getting rid of the quiet ones, then Sharp Suit has been the quietest so far...

Author:	Mr Russell [ Fri Dec 13, 2013 13:44 ]
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Absolutely happy to switch to [vote:Sharp Suit]. And no doubt he'll turn up here to defend himself as one of his mafia buddies will nudge him along.

Author:	Mr Russell [ Fri Dec 13, 2013 13:45 ]
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I realise it would probably make more sense to switch to DavPaz or Grim... at this point.

Author:	Grim... [ Fri Dec 13, 2013 14:02 ]
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If what people are saying is correct and we need to hit a bad guy, then picking "a quiet one" simply isn't feasible.

Author:	Trooper [ Fri Dec 13, 2013 14:12 ]
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Grim... wrote: Unless they're a quiet bad guy, of course. Which in this game seems to be a reasonable tactic, as we are doing perfectly well at wiping ourselves out.

Author:	Satsuma [ Fri Dec 13, 2013 14:49 ]
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I'd agree that it has got to be a talkie that gets taken out, at least for today, to stand much of a chance from hereon in. There's a very large spread bet across a number of folk which is worrying, as it doesn't look as though there's much consensus amongst us thanks, in part, to no talking, or talking about the no-talkies. Let's look at who has been voting for whom over the last two days when two elves have been put on the naughty list. Day Two: - SILENT NIGHT: Goddess Jasmine, zaphod79, Bobbyaro, Santanalian, Grim..., Cras Kringle, Mr Russell Sprouts, DavPaz Day One: - KOVACS: Grim..., Cras Kringle, SilentNight, Mr Russell Sprouts, nickachu, Trooper, Bobbyaro, DavPaz, Zaphod69, Gosvp Who voted for both: DavPaz Mr Russell Sprouts zaphod79 Grim... Bobbyaro So what have we learned from that? Well, loads of you are Mafia then. Every single one of you. What? Oh, there's not that many. Well ok, perhaps someone can come in and make sense of it all. It absolutely must be one of these next though. Because, well, I ain't got any better ideas.

Author:	DavPaz [ Fri Dec 13, 2013 14:53 ]
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Well now this lock is pretty dead, It not at all too peachy. I'm going to have to swing my FOS, and grimly [vote:gospvg]

Author:	Satsuma [ Fri Dec 13, 2013 15:03 ]
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I'm worried about two people though, and here's why: MR RUSSELL SPROUTS. Immediately after SDG is strangled with tinsel (Day 2) here's what he said: Quote: Well Nikachu was an elf and is now dead, so your list should only be four people long (and three obviously without me). I do feel Christmassy this morning, all lovely and in the spirit of joyfulness. No mention of poor SDG but at least he feels Christmassy. Probably because he's just murdered her and got his "jolly's". No, jollies. One of those. Secondly: ZAPHOD79 I love Zaphod. He's ace. He's also the consistently logical as far as I'm concerned. So what insights has he got for us: Quote: What we know from yesterday (please feel free to add) 10 people voted to remove an Elf from the game The Mafia targetted and removed an Elf from the game The mad Elf targetted and removed an Elf from the game The Marketing person did not target a baddie (anyone want to come forward and claim that they clockwork oranged into watching uplifting videos last night?) Some notes were passed around (again anyone want to come forward as a recipient of a note and tell us what they said?) Some special stuff may have happened (the two mystery roles) I do think its fair to say that there will have been at least one baddie in the group that voted for Kov , however that really doesnt help us much - I also agree that targeting a silent one would be good as if they are good they are not contributing and are just giving the baddies a chance to slide along undetected so [vote:joans] So, to recap, Zaphod, some people did something and stuff happened. HOW INSIGHTFUL. Or not. Y'see, this is the worse that I've seen you. You're normally so calm and collected and save your vote. So, the hyper-analysis is suddenly absent and, in addition, at the moment we've seen you: FLIM-FLAM your vote on Day 1. JUMP AT THE CHANCE of voting for Silent Night when I done fucked up. In fact, you were a little too keen for people to get their votes in that night, no doubt RALLYING YOUR MAFIA BREADRIN (Bread bin? Brethrin? Of, whatever) to come and vote now that everyone had jumped on my idiotic mistake. I still think Silent Night was stupid not to come back and fight his case, but whatevs. So what am I saying? Well, Zaphod has probably gone to the dark side. Russ is probably the serial killer. But I accept that I'm basing that on only hunches rather than science. But, y'know, at least I'm trying to provide an explanation.

Author:	Satsuma [ Fri Dec 13, 2013 15:05 ]
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So I might as well stick my neck out and say [vote: zaphod79] I'm still not sure about Gosvp but maybe he's just trying to hard. He probably has some sort of power role but I don't know what side.

Author:	Satsuma [ Fri Dec 13, 2013 15:06 ]
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too* hard. DAMN YOU AUTO CARROT!

Author:	DavPaz [ Fri Dec 13, 2013 15:07 ]
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Funny it is when the vote starts to swing, A sudden move away Gos begin

Author:	zaphod79 [ Fri Dec 13, 2013 15:28 ]
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Santanalian wrote: So, to recap, Zaphod, some people did something and stuff happened. HOW INSIGHTFUL. Yip - cause thats all i know - I have no insights and given how many people were getting stuff wrong I like having a summary post like that Santanalian wrote: Or not. Y'see, this is the worse that I've seen you. You're normally so calm and collected and save your vote. <meta> I've had a lot less time to focus on things here this week :-) </meta> Santanalian wrote: So, the hyper-analysis is suddenly absent and, in addition, at the moment we've seen you: FLIM-FLAM your vote on Day 1. Yip - guilty of that however at that point on day one I would vote for anyone that I think we could vote out. Santanalian wrote: JUMP AT THE CHANCE of voting for Silent Night when I done fucked up. So you pick someone out as bad - i vote for them and that makes me bad ? Oh and here is my vote for Silentnight : viewtopic.php?p=798425#p798425 I was the 5th person to vote for him about an hour and a half after you and under an hour from the end of the day. Santanalian wrote: In fact, you were a little too keen for people to get their votes in that night, Getting people to vote at night is much harder than getting them to vote during the day - yes I was trying to get people involved. Santanalian wrote: But I accept that I'm basing that on only hunches rather than science. But, y'know, at least I'm trying to provide an explanation. And I appreciate the details (much more than "Grim...'s you should vote cause I said so") however in this case your wrong and I'm not on the dark side.

Author:	gospvg [ Fri Dec 13, 2013 15:29 ]
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Santanalian wrote: So I might as well stick my neck out and say [vote: zaphod79] I'm still not sure about Gosvp but maybe he's just trying to hard. He probably has some sort of power role but I don't know what side. I think I just talk too much in the first two days so going to sit back for a change & listen to what other players are saying.

Author:	Satsuma [ Fri Dec 13, 2013 15:52 ]
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The more I look at the SilentNight vote out, the urgency of voting, and endless call to get people to vote, Zaphod's behaviour does look a little strange in retrospect bearing in mind that he was an elf. Feel free to browse Zaphod's own link to see what he was doing: viewtopic.php?p=798425#p798425

Author:	Grim... [ Fri Dec 13, 2013 15:54 ]
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zaphod79 wrote: And I appreciate the details (much more than "Grim...'s you should vote cause I said so") You should. Let's think back to when ("my cousins" - continuity Ed) were in the same situation as me, and they had got wind of a handy clue - you couldn't shut them the fuck up about it! It's not that I don't have anything to tell you, I'm just not going to. That doesn't make me evil, or wrong. Get voting, fools.

Author:	Satsuma [ Fri Dec 13, 2013 16:26 ]
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Well, that's interesting. If we go along with it and you're right then you're in the clear but if you're not then tomorrow you're dead. It's as good as we're going to get I suppose. Still don't like Russ or Zaphod, mind. Or Gosvpg. Although if davpaz is evil then Gosvpg will probably be good and Trooper evil. Probably. Ah, fack it, nowt else going on: [vote: davpaz]

Author:	zaphod79 [ Fri Dec 13, 2013 16:59 ]
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Its 7 votes to evict someone and we've still got a way to go - today finishes at 19:00 and I will not be around after 17:30 so I will put a vote in before that Quote: sharp suit: 1 (Mr Russell Sprouts) grim...: 1 (zaphod79) gospvg: 2 (Trooper, DavPaz) davpaz: 3 (Santanalian, Grim..., Bobbyaro) Not voted: 5 (gospvg, gazchap, joans, sharp suit, goddess jasmine) With 12 players alive, 7 votes are required for a lynch, and 7 nolynch votes are required to not lynch anybody. http://www.beexcellenttoeachother.com/counter/work.php

Author:	DavPaz [ Fri Dec 13, 2013 17:01 ]
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Can I prose a simple plan, If you like it, give a toot. If we get close to the deadline without a consensus, Can we all vote for Sharp Suit?

Author:	Grim... [ Fri Dec 13, 2013 17:01 ]
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No.

Author:	DavPaz [ Fri Dec 13, 2013 17:11 ]
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Alas I know not why you think I am a crooked type, I can only think you must have had too much of your crack pipe.

Author:	Bobbyaro [ Fri Dec 13, 2013 17:27 ]
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Mr russ seems to be doing a lot to not for DavPaz. all of it a bit nonsensical.

Author:	zaphod79 [ Fri Dec 13, 2013 17:33 ]
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Bobbyaro wrote: Mr russ seems to be doing a lot to not for DavPaz. all of it a bit nonsensical. :-) I'm assuming phone - do you want to have another try.

Author:	zaphod79 [ Fri Dec 13, 2013 18:36 ]
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I'm not going to be back on before the end of the day so the numbers now are sharp suit: 1 (Mr Russell Sprouts) grim...: 1 (zaphod79) gospvg: 2 (Trooper, DavPaz) davpaz: 3 (Santanalian, Grim..., Bobbyaro) Not voted: 5 (gospvg, gazchap, joans, sharp suit, goddess jasmine) With 12 players alive, 7 votes are required for a lynch, and 7 nolynch votes are required to not lynch anybody. http://www.beexcellenttoeachother.com/counter/work.php I'm really not sure about Gospvg - he's noisy but i'm not sure if its enthusiasm or something more malicious. I cant see Davpaz's rhymes being anything bad but there is very little to go on so i'll trust Grim... and [vote:Davpaz] Sorry Davpaz :-(

Author:	Goddess Jasmine [ Fri Dec 13, 2013 18:49 ]
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Just finished reading through and I'm still non the wiser. I have no reason to trust Grim... Or Davpaz. What's an elf to do?? I'm going to go back and read the last couple of days, although with an hour till deadline I don't hold out much hope of a lynch.

Author:	Satsuma [ Fri Dec 13, 2013 19:11 ]
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Get Joans on here to make a sodding vote for once.

Author:	Joans [ Fri Dec 13, 2013 19:19 ]
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is bundled into thread So, what have we got then. I think gos is probably good, because he's working too hard and getting himself in too many knots to be a bad guy. I have vague suspicions about Trooper, but not really for anything specific. So, I guess it comes down to - does grim know something, or is he just making a push for someone that he wants dead? I don't suppose we can do worse than we already are, so [vote:davpaz]