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PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 18:06 
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Mmm, and Mr Dom is?

My thoughts go:

Bobby on day 2 checks out as company. being 'suspicious' of Kalmar, but actually being suspicious of Mr Dom in the process. Definite signs of Craster suspicion. However, the aliens did kill him on the first day their huggee was in the group.

HOWEVER: The company wants to kill Marines, not Aliens so much, so why didn't one die last night?


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 Post subject: Re: -=[ALIENS SCUM]=- Day 4
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Mr Dom wrote:
Ooh, you investimigated me? Cool!
What am I then?


@ Mr Dom - you are a Marine.
@ Mr Dave - We (I) knew Craster was a Marine, but didn't know why the attack had failed, and I didn't want to waste another night action.

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So from what Bovvy says, maybe the company scientist protected Craster or maybe the marines sealed the door. If Frost exists, maybe a role claim from him could be useful? I certainly wouldn't want the marines named though.

it is possible Ripley role blocked for the Craster kill also; as I say, I don't know.

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Mr Dave wrote:
HOWEVER: The company wants to kill Marines, not Aliens so much, so why didn't one die last night?


What are you blathering on about? The Company wants to kill aliens way more than it wants to kill the Marines, at this juncture. It needs to get rid of the Alien Queen before the nest becomes too powerful and controls the block vote, thus effectively ending the game.

That said, I personally don't believe the Company has a kill role any more. GJ even said she was out of associates shortly before she died.

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Right, you haven't actually asked me any questions, so i can only guess what it is you want me to say.


If we let you live - IF - will you investigate Mr Dave tonight?


That's about the scummiest thing I've ever heard.

Rev Owen definite for alien.

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@ Mr Dom - you are a Marine.


I agree. He was dead certain about GJ, because he must have investigated her. The only people who can do that are Company, Aliens (but they'd be spectacularly dumb to use their investigate power when they can just hug and kill) and Marines. He's deffo not Company as he led the charge on the Company peeps who are dead, so he must be a Marine. Unfortunately, this means he dies tonight. Poor Mr Dom.

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He appears dead certain about you, so you must be an alien. He wouldn't be confused about you being a Company person, as his Motion Tracker, as far as the rules state, tell him which faction you're in.

So, face it Bobby, the game is up! No amount of srabbling from your drones and warriors can save you now!

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Curiosity wrote:
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Right, you haven't actually asked me any questions, so i can only guess what it is you want me to say.


If we let you live - IF - will you investigate Mr Dave tonight?


That's about the scummiest thing I've ever heard.

Rev Owen definite for alien.


Nice of you to come out with that after I suggested you were one, but quote an unrelated post to try and make it look less retaliatory. If that's not scummy I don't know what is.

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Right, Curiosity has pretty much confirmed in my head that he and Mr Dom are aliens trying to pretend to be marines while not actually coming out and saying it.

And I reckon Mr Dave (or DavPaz) is another. It's possible Mr Dave's voting for DavPaz has been a cunning ruse and they both are, but I doubt it.

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Well I think we should wait to hear from Mr Dom now. He was one of the people I have written down on my bit of A4 as being a marine so I am thinking Bobby is company as he says. He voted with kalmar and GJ a couple of times and there was also a night when the three of them posted on after the other late at night but with fairly decent chunks of time in between-i wondered to myself when is saw that if they had all gone online to check a PM?


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@ Mr Dom - you are a Marine.

.. like Ive made it hard to figure THAt one out...

Ok people, listen up & listen good, cos I probably won't be here tomorrow to hold your sorry little hands while these alien scumbags come running through here!

I am Pvt Vasquez (& you can stop staring at my tits) - Bobby is an alien, we know, cos we scanned that mofo's ass last night.

Seems there is a good chance he is company too, which gives us a little ray of sunshine in this god-forsaken hellhole, which also explains how the aliens knew where to look for Hicks.

But - it means the facehug was not a happy little camper, like the majority of you out there are, so bad guy count is not as bad as we thought.

So, listen up & listen good - Bobby deserves his little walk to the tower now I think. There are a couple who's behaviour, particularly earlier today when I pointed out Bobby, who will be getting a little scan tonight...

So, if you wear your skeleton on the outside - we're coming for ya... rest of yas - sleep well...
[vote: Bobbyaro]
(Oh and Rebecca, we've known who you were for some time now. There's a teddy bear in my quarters you can have when I'm gone.)


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ah, awesome. I was having a bit of a blind spot and hadn't considered he could be Company and Alien :facepalm:

Cool, I'll go with that. :)

So do we vote now or do we hold out to try and get more info on your last day Mr Dom?

I'm also pretty certain about who I think the other Marine is.


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I thought Mr Dom seemed pretty marine-like to me.
If that's the case, then I can't see any reason to keep Bobbyaro alive unless we like being eaten.
[vote:Bobbyaro]


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Right - good enough for me - [vote: Bobbyaro]

<BTW SDG your missing that the scientist is a company person not a colonist , and Rebecca who we know is not a zero/one role so exists and was not picked up by Ripley>


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The Rev Owen wrote:
Curiosity wrote:
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Right, you haven't actually asked me any questions, so i can only guess what it is you want me to say.


If we let you live - IF - will you investigate Mr Dave tonight?


That's about the scummiest thing I've ever heard.

Rev Owen definite for alien.


Nice of you to come out with that after I suggested you were one, but quote an unrelated post to try and make it look less retaliatory. If that's not scummy I don't know what is.


No, you misunderstand.

You made a scummy move, because:

1) You're trying to save a known alien (Dom has all but roleclaimed several times)
2) If the Company had a role left and used it to Investigate again, they'd miss out on the chance to kill an alien, and it would allow more time for Facehugging. The only thing delaying kills does is help aliens!

Company peeps - if you do have a kill left, take out Owen!

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Mmm, I just can't tie Bobby knowing the ID of Mr Dom and not killing him last night if he were an alien. Unless he already knew Craster, but that would require two nights of successful investigation before eventual conversion. Can anyone think of a scheme that works?


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zaphod79 wrote:

<BTW SDG your missing that the scientist is a company person not a colonist , and Rebecca who we know is not a zero/one role so exists and was not picked up by Ripley>


No I included the scientist under DACs because that's how it's written in the rules and they are non communicable so although they are company, they can't affect the company vote. I did write alongside that they were a company member though. I did miss Rebecca though, you're right about that. I'm pretty sure I know who that is though.


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Exactly, I am not an Alien! I am bit confused why Dom is lying about this.

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I would rather not vote just now and would rather people (including the marines) unvoted, so as we can have some discussion about what we want to happen tomorrow as well. No point in ending the day and losing a character when we could take advantage of their reasoning and judgement while they are still around.


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I'm sticking to [vote: DavPaz]

Just for old times sakes.


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Ok, just to let you know...

Rev - I think he is an alien, not scanned yet tho.

Mr Dave, SDG - I don't have any info on good or bad (i.e. they are not one of the roles we have uncovered, worked out)

None of these are known to be goodies, so poke em with votes in the next few days with my blessing.


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I'm going with our alleged lady marine for the moment [vote: Bobbyaro]

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Oh come on, surely I must have a halo glowing over my head right now! I feel like I've been bloddy brilliant! I hope someone in the dead thread agrees.


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Are we not going to discuss things then and take advantage of being able to drag the day out to try and figure out some other roles?


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@ gilly, you what?

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Mr Dom wrote:
Ok, just to let you know...

Rev - I think he is an alien, not scanned yet tho.

Mr Dave, SDG - I don't have any info on good or bad (i.e. they are not one of the roles we have uncovered, worked out)

None of these are known to be goodies, so poke em with votes in the next few days with my blessing.

You didn't scan me after some fairly antagonistic play throughout. Interesting.


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VOTE UPDATE

davpaz: 2 (Bobbyaro, Mr Dave)
bobbyaro: 5 (Mr Dom, Curiosity, Morte, Joans, zaphod79)

Not voted: 4 (davpaz, the rev owen, terimahkaseh, superdupergill)

With 11 players alive, 6 votes are required for a lynch

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Mr Dave wrote:
You didn't scan me after some fairly antagonistic play throughout. Interesting.

Antagonistic is one thing... but scummier people (GJ, Bobby) kept pushing themselves to the front of the 'scan me, I'm suspect' queue. I'm sure you'll get your turn ;)


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Has everyone else got avatars turned off?


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Of for goodness sake. I havent voted yet because I have clearly said I think we should use this day to our advantage, drag it out and try to figure out other roles. I bet someone else flies in with a vote though to end the day and make me look scummy. Where is the harm in unvoting right now and talking? Please?


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I propose a leaflet campaign. :)


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bobby is making it clear now so as the vote gets rushed and you all ignore my frankly wonderful advise of taking the day to talk....


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SOMEONE UNVOTE.


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I can still post Bishop's messages if anyone wants? I would be suss of anyone that doesn't.

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[vote: unvote]
Oh, ok...
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Fine.
[vote:unvote]
What shall we talk about?


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All the alien side know the content anyway, so why not share with the rest of us?


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Right you bloody can't make your minds up.

[vote:Mr Dave]

I plain just don't trust him, I think DavPaz is OK and yet he will not stop voting for him. Could be wrong but our marine makes an allegation against Bobby and then unvotes? I'd rather go with my gut instinct.

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Well of course! I'm going to vote for him later as well but there is no harm at all in letting the day last longer and talking about what we should do next etc. Otherwise we lose someone we all seem to be able to trust and don't get your input into further actions.

Bobby if you want to post messages go ahead but we will take them with a pinch of salt.

So, Mr Dom could you tell us what the marines are doing tonight? Or what do you think of my suspicions of Zaphod and DavPaz? I had no clues about Owen but he is seeming pretty suss today.


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Morte wrote:
Right you bloody can't make your minds up.

[vote:Mr Dave]

I plain just don't trust him

I wouldn't either.

But I also wouldn't peg me as an alien based on the behaviour displayed.


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Ok we have three aliens to find. I propose they are out of this group of people-

Mr Dave
DavPaz
Zaphod
TheRevOwen
Joans
Terimahkaseh

I say three because we have identified Bobby as number four, as well as being company.


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I can't say for sure who we will scan.

Morte - I am only unvoting so the day can go on a bit more.
Seeing as my cover is blown, Im dead tonight, but as a confirmed goodie, I can at least spend the remaining time going over what we figured out about who. I know of 3 genuinely safe people atm, and trying to figure out the endgame maths as to whether I can say who or not.


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Are you including yourself in that group of three Mr Dom? I feel like I know four including you and myself (obviously I'll say myself though)


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And Bobby, if you would be so kind as to relay Bishops messages first, that would be lovely.


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Incidentally, Dear Aliens: Please don't facehug me yet, leave that to where you've won, I'd rather have a certain air of smugness when these people do decide a lynching is in order. Personally, I have no particular desire to stop you, so no point in going after me, and given that some people here think killing me is a good idea, facehugging wouldn't be so good. For the rest of the game, I'm only going to vote for DavPaz or abstain, so nothing to fear from me unless, for instance, DavPaz is one of you. And you'd probably like him removed anyway, if he was. The underwear stealing git.

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Am I being ignored now? The big problem we will have tomorrow is that unles there is another role claim, the non alien players will surely be fumbling around blind again? They won't know who the marines investigated tonight and so won't know who to vote for tomorrow. Which means the aliens could still easily win this by manipulating or steering the voting for the other days.


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No, I'm not in the group of 3 I mentioned.

Still not worked out what I can say tho, I started, then realised that it could depends on what Bobby has to say about Bishops messages, so I wanna hear them first.


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What will the aliens do tonight, kill? Is there any point in another facehug? In which case, they could easily hit a good player. They still have a really really good chance at winning this.


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Ok let's wait for Bobby. The problem is though that the aliens could right at this minute be discussing what to say to manipulate and confuse the remaining DACs.

I really don't know how we can beat them since when you go everyone is going to be shooting in the dark again and not trusting each other. I trust 2 other people not including you but they have no reason to trust me and the aliens could easily sway the others.


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Bloody hell, this thread is crazy, thought the vote was done twice. So what did Grim... tell you Bobby?

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