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However it appears one or more of you didn't get the memo.

Are we going for a no lynch again?

I did nothing over night as I have nothing I can do.

So you want to vote off another townie. Good work russ.

I'm starting to think the no voters are part of a group who need to reach some target or other.

I think some of us are going to regret going along with it.

Malc

Because I was all for the doing nothing.

I suspect Mr Russ is mafia now. [vote:Mr Russell]

nickachu wrote:

Because I was all for the doing nothing.

I suspect Mr Russ is mafia now. [vote:Mr Russell]

Which makes.... you mafia. I picked you as you seem to have the same role as me, which either makes you a liar, or tells everyone the role of a person left alive (me) if we kill you.

I agree with mr Dave. I don't understand why people are persisting with the voting. Clearly someone pressed a button last night and I see no harm in attempting a full day and night of no action.

sdg wrote:

I agree with mr Dave. I don't understand why people are persisting with the voting. Clearly someone pressed a button last night and I see no harm in attempting a full day and night of no action.

So even though we all agreed not to press the buttons someone still pushed their button?!

DETECTIVE: It look liek we hav a CRIMERR.

Why is this game different? We always lynch as it is the towns only power?

Yip looked. There are no rules other than the buttons.

But we know there are town, mafia and cult. So doing nothing plays into the cult/mafia not the town.

No Nic. I Fos you on day two or three I believe. As you seem to be copying Mr Russ.

sdg wrote:

[vote:novote]

A bit late, but I don't think you can do this.

And that says a lot about you, really, doesn't it.

Likes killing.
Paranoid.
etc.

Author:	Trooper [ Sat Apr 13, 2013 10:01 ]
Post subject:	Room Scum Day 6
You wake, all of you. However it appears one or more of you didn't get the memo. Continue. [playerlist] Slightly Green Grim... sdg thevision Mr Russell Malc Saturnalian nickachu Mr Dave KovacsC [/playerlist] http://www.beexcellenttoeachother.com/counter/ With 10 players alive, 6 votes are required for a lynch. Day 6 ends Monday at 2pm, or sooner if there is a majority vote.

Author:	KovacsC [ Sat Apr 13, 2013 10:10 ]
Post subject:	Re: Room Scum Day 6
Well do nothing works! We are all still here.

Author:	Mr Dave [ Sat Apr 13, 2013 10:31 ]
Post subject:	Re: Room Scum Day 6
On the plus side, no one died. Very curious.

Author:	Mr Dave [ Sat Apr 13, 2013 10:33 ]
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Trooper wrote: However it appears one or more of you didn't get the memo. Well, there are at least two possible meanings for this.

Author:	Mr Dave [ Sat Apr 13, 2013 10:40 ]
Post subject:	Re: Room Scum Day 6
For instance #1) We don't get released until noone pushes a button, and those who have roleblocking/investigating roles etc did, but the remaining kill roles didn't. #2) Killer was blocked by doctor/roleblocker. #3) Someone, be it 'mafia' or someone else has a more particular goal than kill to majority. #4) Our captor is messing with us. There was a #5, but, alas, I've forgotten it.

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Author:	Mr Russell [ Sat Apr 13, 2013 10:45 ]
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Anyone got any info that they think might help?

Author:	KovacsC [ Sat Apr 13, 2013 11:23 ]
Post subject:	Re: Room Scum Day 6
Are we going for a no lynch again?

Author:	Slightly Green [ Sat Apr 13, 2013 13:17 ]
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KovacsC wrote: Are we going for a no lynch again? If we can get everyone to agree a no button press for tonight I think that would be good.

Author:	sdg [ Sat Apr 13, 2013 14:02 ]
Post subject:	Re: Room Scum Day 6
Last night hasn't really revealed anything but hasn't cost us anything. It would appear buttons were pushed, wether that was roleblock/investigate or kill. Potentially a roleblocker blocked an attempted kill but I see no harm in trying again tonight with even roleblockers and investigators refraining from button pushing. I say we all vote for no lynch then all also message trooper requesting no night action to be doubly sure. [vote:novote]

Author:	Mr Russell [ Sat Apr 13, 2013 15:06 ]
Post subject:	Re: Room Scum Day 6
Nobody got any slide down panels?

Author:	Mr Dave [ Sat Apr 13, 2013 15:58 ]
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I got nothing overnight. Did you?

Author:	Mr Russell [ Sat Apr 13, 2013 16:01 ]
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Nope, so I want to do something. [vote:nickachu]

Author:	nickachu [ Sat Apr 13, 2013 17:32 ]
Post subject:	Re: Room Scum Day 6
I did nothing over night as I have nothing I can do.

Author:	Mr Russell [ Sat Apr 13, 2013 18:25 ]
Post subject:	Re: Room Scum Day 6
nickachu wrote: I did nothing over night as I have nothing I can do. Me either, but it will be exciting for me to find out what my role is and share that info with everyone.

Author:	sdg [ Mon Apr 15, 2013 1:21 ]
Post subject:	Re: Room Scum Day 6
Kovacs, is your win condition survive? If so, lets look at the options. 1) We play as normal, lynching at random (because the investigators get numbers, not names, so the information isn't useful). There are nighttime kills, daytime lynches, and eventually two people are left standing. Everyone else still around right now has by the end been killed and only two people 'win'. 2) We don't vote to lynch. We don't carry out night actions. No one is killed, no one is recruited, or blocked, or investigated. We all simply wait. We all survive. We all meet our win condition. We are all released and go on to live long and happy lives. 3) We don't vote to lynch. We don't carry out night actions. The killer ignores this and kills. We all go back to lynching etc tomorrow. We have lost one player. 4)We don't vote to lynch. We don't carry out night actions. The cult ignores this. They recruit. The remaining people are still alive and so again, everyone survives. We all are released and go on to live happy lives. Of those options, 2 & 4 are the best. 3 is unlucky but slim odds and has minimal impact on the whole experience overall. 1 seems downright crazy if carried out before attempting the others. Is there a fifth option that you see? Because looking at it purely from a numbers/odds point of view, I think we have to attempt a day and night of everyone not voting and not pressing buttons. The only reason anyone would not want to abstain from action was if they had an ulterior motive other than survive. Again, this is because of two reasons- we can't make use of the information the investigator finds out because we don't know who it relates to, and we all (presumably) just want to survive!

Author:	nickachu [ Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:53 ]
Post subject:	Re: Room Scum Day 6
The fact the kovacs jumped so quickly on Mr Russes attempt at lynching me leads me to believe that they could both be mafia, me and russ could have the same role, but one of us is town (me) and one of us is Mafia (him) or he could be talking total bollocks and has a killing role himself. Who know! Gonna stick with my [vote: Mr Russell] from yesterday

Author:	nickachu [ Sat Apr 13, 2013 18:55 ]
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So you want to vote off another townie. Good work russ.

Author:	Mr Russell [ Sat Apr 13, 2013 19:05 ]
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nickachu wrote: So you want to vote off another townie. Good work russ. But I don't know that I'm a townie. Plus, if people die quicker then the game ends quicker and I will have survived to the end. It's genius.

Author:	Malc [ Sat Apr 13, 2013 19:06 ]
Post subject:	Room Scum Day 6
I'm starting to think the no voters are part of a group who need to reach some target or other. I think some of us are going to regret going along with it. Malc

Author:	Mr Russell [ Sat Apr 13, 2013 19:25 ]
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Malc wrote: I'm starting to think the no voters are part of a group who need to reach some target or other. I think some of us are going to regret going along with it. Malc Join me in voting nickachu?!

Author:	nickachu [ Sat Apr 13, 2013 19:36 ]
Post subject:	Re: Room Scum Day 6
Because I was all for the doing nothing. I suspect Mr Russ is mafia now. [vote:Mr Russell]

Author:	Mr Russell [ Sat Apr 13, 2013 19:48 ]
Post subject:	Re: Room Scum Day 6
nickachu wrote: Because I was all for the doing nothing. I suspect Mr Russ is mafia now. [vote:Mr Russell] Which makes.... you mafia. I picked you as you seem to have the same role as me, which either makes you a liar, or tells everyone the role of a person left alive (me) if we kill you.

Author:	nickachu [ Sat Apr 13, 2013 19:55 ]
Post subject:	Re: Room Scum Day 6
Mr Russell wrote: nickachu wrote: Because I was all for the doing nothing. I suspect Mr Russ is mafia now. [vote:Mr Russell] Which makes.... you mafia. I picked you as you seem to have the same role as me, which either makes you a liar, or tells everyone the role of a person left alive (me) if we kill you. I'm 100% certain I'm not mafia, which makes you one. So if you get everyone to gang up on me then you're dead the next day.

Author:	Mr Russell [ Sat Apr 13, 2013 20:54 ]
Post subject:	Re: Room Scum Day 6
What logic makes me mafia just because you know your own role? My argument is that I don't know my role, only my win condition.

Author:	KovacsC [ Sun Apr 14, 2013 8:18 ]
Post subject:	Re: Room Scum Day 6
I am going to vote [vote:nickachu] As I belive doing nothing will not get us out of here.

Author:	Satsuma [ Sun Apr 14, 2013 12:23 ]
Post subject:	Re: Room Scum Day 6
I didn't touch anything or get any messages or nowt. I wonder if something thinks they have a kill role, in fact, doesn't and just happened to press a button the same night or nights someone died. Why don't we all try pressing the same button? Because, y'know, it's different, init?

Author:	KovacsC [ Sun Apr 14, 2013 13:39 ]
Post subject:	Re: Room Scum Day 6
Room Scum Day 6 VOTE UPDATE mr russell: 1 (nickachu) nickachu: 2 (Mr Russell, KovacsC) Not voted: 7 (slightly green, grim..., sdg, thevision, malc, saturnalian, mr dave) With 10 players alive, 6 votes are required for a lynch, and 6 nolynch votes are required to not lynch anybody. http://www.beexcellenttoeachother.com/counter/

Author:	Mr Dave [ Sun Apr 14, 2013 19:59 ]
Post subject:	Re: Room Scum Day 6
Interesting to see the different personalities.... But yeah, I:m not going to be voting, and I:m still not going to be pressing any buttons. )yeah, I:m choosing to believe ]1 on my list up there given the lack of particular evidence to the contrary, and, you know, not liking killing people.

Author:	sdg [ Sun Apr 14, 2013 22:25 ]
Post subject:	Re: Room Scum Day 6
I agree with mr Dave. I don't understand why people are persisting with the voting. Clearly someone pressed a button last night and I see no harm in attempting a full day and night of no action.

Author:	Mr Russell [ Sun Apr 14, 2013 22:31 ]
Post subject:	Re: Room Scum Day 6
sdg wrote: I agree with mr Dave. I don't understand why people are persisting with the voting. Clearly someone pressed a button last night and I see no harm in attempting a full day and night of no action. So even though we all agreed not to press the buttons someone still pushed their button?! DETECTIVE: It look liek we hav a CRIMERR.

Author:	KovacsC [ Sun Apr 14, 2013 23:19 ]
Post subject:	Re: Room Scum Day 6
Did we expect the cult or mafia to do nothing?

Author:	sdg [ Sun Apr 14, 2013 23:32 ]
Post subject:	Re: Room Scum Day 6
Well there were no kills?! So it looks like the killer did nothing, and as mr Dave said, if the cult recruit, and you have a win condition of survive, it doesn't matter! If I knew my number I'd be pleading with the cult to recruit me so as I would have a chnace of winning if your all intent on killing someone!

Author:	KovacsC [ Sun Apr 14, 2013 23:34 ]
Post subject:	Re: Room Scum Day 6
Why is this game different? We always lynch as it is the towns only power? What are you and Mr Dave up to?

Author:	Mr Dave [ Mon Apr 15, 2013 0:01 ]
Post subject:	Re: Room Scum Day 6
Mr Russell wrote: sdg wrote: I agree with mr Dave. I don't understand why people are persisting with the voting. Clearly someone pressed a button last night and I see no harm in attempting a full day and night of no action. So even though we all agreed not to press the buttons someone still pushed their button?! DETECTIVE: It look liek we hav a CRIMERR. Well, no, we didn:t... quote from yesterday+ "Another thing, people who are 100% certain about their night role, and are an investigator or roleblocker, can press away." KovacsC wrote: Why is this game different? We always lynch as it is the towns only power? The difference? Really? Go look at the rules and there:s your difference.

Author:	KovacsC [ Mon Apr 15, 2013 0:07 ]
Post subject:	Re: Room Scum Day 6
Yip looked. There are no rules other than the buttons. But we know there are town, mafia and cult. So doing nothing plays into the cult/mafia not the town.

Author:	Mr Dave [ Mon Apr 15, 2013 2:07 ]
Post subject:	Re: Room Scum Day 6
Although, with 4, there is a fairly good chance that the recruiter has already been killed and so this situation cannot come to pass. And if I:m wrong, no skin off my nose. KovacsC wrote: Yip looked. There are no rules other than the buttons. But we know there are town, mafia and cult. So doing nothing plays into the cult/mafia not the town. My point was that we don:t know the rules. You:re assuming things on games past, where, let me remind you, the mafia were a team. From whatever evidence there is in this game, that:s not the case here given the way they were willing to sell each other out for no gain. Could be wrong. But, you know, it:d be great if I weren:t...and everyone else didn:t partake in mutually assured destruction and that.