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Room Scum Day 2
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Author:  Trooper [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:06 ]
Post subject:  Room Scum Day 2

You wake, all of you.

That was... unexpected.

Continue.


[playerlist]
Slightly Green
Zaphod79
Cras
Curiosity
DavPaz
ApplePieOfDestiny
Grim...
sdg
thevision
Mr Russell
Malc
Bobbyaro
Saturnalian
nickachu
Mr Dave
KovacsC
[/playerlist]

http://www.beexcellenttoeachother.com/counter/
With 16 players alive, 9 votes are required for a lynch

Day 1 ends Friday at 2pm, or sooner if there is a majority vote.

Author:  Slightly Green [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:11 ]
Post subject:  Re: Room Scum Day 2

erm...morning all.

So all the button pressing yesterday either did nothing as the buttons for those people don't work, or it all balanced out? What other options?

Author:  Slightly Green [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:12 ]
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Could the people who pressed buttons say which buttons they pressed? so we can get a idea what the hell is going on

Author:  Mr Dave [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:13 ]
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Well, in that case, I'm going to put my feet up until I'm released.

Author:  Curiosity [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:13 ]
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That none of the buttons do anything and that Trooper is an ass?

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:19 ]
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*Crzzt*
I pressed 3, remember?

Last night, a panel on the wall slid down and there was a screen behind it that said "MAFIA".

Might be handy in the future, but it's not now.

I'm not blind to the fact that it could be describing me, but if I am, that's the first I know about it.

There's also a chance that it's describing Cras, as he is alphabetically player 3, but I think that's slim.

So - shrug, basically.
*Crzzt*

Author:  Bobbyaro [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:23 ]
Post subject:  Re: Room Scum Day 2

Well, I pressed a button, and as I say I got a screen and a keyboard to type 140 characters. I typed a message and as I went to press send [night time action occurred] and I was unable to push the button. I was blocked from sending the message some how. As I gave out info that I had pushed a button and was then somehow blocked, I am loathe to give out any more info at this point.

Author:  Curiosity [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:24 ]
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Grim... wrote:
*Crzzt*
I pressed 3, remember?

Last night, a panel on the wall slid down and there was a screen behind it that said "MAFIA".

Might be handy in the future, but it's not now.

I'm not blind to the fact that it could be describing me, but if I am, that's the first I know about it.

There's also a chance that it's describing Cras, as he is alphabetically player 3, but I think that's slim.

So - shrug, basically.
*Crzzt*


Better than nothing.

Until we have anything further,

[vote:Cras]

Author:  TheVision [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:25 ]
Post subject:  Re: Room Scum Day 2

I pressed number 16 and heard nothing.

Author:  Slightly Green [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:43 ]
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So assuming that the numbers directly correspond to the player list then Grim... could either be a investigator or Mafia

I am happy to [vote:Cras] for now to prove it either way, as Cras and APOD had some strange talking yesterday.

Cras wrote:
I've been locked in a few cells in my time.


Cunning day one mafia claim?

If Cras turns out to be a norm then we know Grim... is a scummer and can get rid of him tomorrow (assuming the number thing is correct)

hmmm a lot of assumptions there, but can't think of anything better to go on for now

Author:  Slightly Green [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:45 ]
Post subject:  Re: Room Scum Day 2

Quote:
Room Scum Day 2

VOTE UPDATE

cras: 2 (Curiosity, Slightly Green)

Not voted: 14 (zaphod79, cras, davpaz, applepieofdestiny, grim..., sdg, thevision, mr russell, malc, bobbyaro, saturnalian, nickachu, mr dave, kovacsc)

With 16 players alive, 9 votes are required for a lynch, and 9 nolynch votes are required to not lynch anybody.

http://www.beexcellenttoeachother.com/counter/


So Grim... hasn't voted yet

Author:  Curiosity [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:47 ]
Post subject:  Re: Room Scum Day 2

Let's not have a massive run on Craster right away. I wanna hear if anyone else pressed anything, and what they heard.

Then we vote to lynch the scumbag!

Author:  Mr Dave [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:57 ]
Post subject:  Re: Room Scum Day 2

I want to know wjat Mr Craster reckons his win condition is.

Author:  Curiosity [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:06 ]
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Mr Dave wrote:
I want to know wjat Mr Craster reckons his win condition is.


He's currently chatting with his Mafia friends as to what they should say to try to divert attention away from his crimer ways.

Author:  Cras [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:10 ]
Post subject:  Re: Room Scum Day 2

Grim... wrote:
There's also a chance that it's describing Cras, as he is alphabetically player 3, but I think that's slim.


Er - no I ain't.

Mr Dave wrote:
I want to know wjat Mr Craster reckons his win condition is.


My win condition is 'survive'.

Author:  zaphod79 [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:19 ]
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Cras wrote:
Grim... wrote:
There's also a chance that it's describing Cras, as he is alphabetically player 3, but I think that's slim.


Er - no I ain't.


I know the player list is not in order but is it not

APOD
Bobby
Cras
Curio ?

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:21 ]
Post subject:  Re: Room Scum Day 2

Cras wrote:
Grim... wrote:
There's also a chance that it's describing Cras, as he is alphabetically player 3, but I think that's slim.

Er - no I ain't.

*Crzzt*
I think you are, and you're certainly third in the list on my screen. That makes it a little more likely, if you ask me. Not that I think it matters because:
Slightly Green wrote:
If Cras turns out to be a norm then we know Grim... is a scummer and can get rid of him tomorrow (assuming the number thing is correct)

Cone on - I've said I have no idea and was making guesses, and you're taking like I said "I'm an investigator, and Craster is bad!". That's reeks of an attempt to thin the herd as quickly as possible, so I'm going to [vote: Slightly Green]
*Crzzt*

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:21 ]
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Slightly Green wrote:
So Grim... hasn't voted yet

*Crzzt*
:facepalm:
*Crzzt*

Author:  Mr Dave [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:23 ]
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Cras wrote:
Grim... wrote:
There's also a chance that it's describing Cras, as he is alphabetically player 3, but I think that's slim.


Er - no I ain't.

Mr Dave wrote:
I want to know wjat Mr Craster reckons his win condition is.


My win condition is 'survive'.

Checks out.

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:24 ]
Post subject:  Re: Room Scum Day 2

*Crzzt*
Ooh!
Do you have info, Dave?
Or are you just comparing it to your win condition?
*Crzzt*

Author:  Malc [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:24 ]
Post subject:  Re: Room Scum Day 2

Where the fuck are we?

What's going on?

What are all these buttons?

Malc

Author:  zaphod79 [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:25 ]
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Alphabetical list of players

Code:
ApplePieOfDestiny
Bobbyaro
Cras
Curiosity
DavPaz
Grim...
KovacsC
Malc
Mr Dave
Mr Russell
nickachu
Saturnalian
sdg
Slightly Green
thevision
Zaphod79

Author:  Cras [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:27 ]
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Huh. My alphabet-fu appears to be a little weak this morning.

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:27 ]
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*Crzzt*
I'm totally pressing another button. You all should, too.

I'm tempted to press 3 again to see if the result stays the same.

What say you, other prisoners?
*Crzzt*

Author:  Mr Dave [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:28 ]
Post subject:  Re: Room Scum Day 2

Grim... wrote:
*Crzzt*
Ooh!
Do you have info, Dave?
Or are you just comparing it to your win condition?
*Crzzt*

Same as mine. I know nothing more. Frankly I am not too inclined to know anything more.

Author:  Slightly Green [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:31 ]
Post subject:  Re: Room Scum Day 2

Grim... wrote:
Cras wrote:
Grim... wrote:
There's also a chance that it's describing Cras, as he is alphabetically player 3, but I think that's slim.

Er - no I ain't.

*Crzzt*
I think you are, and you're certainly third in the list on my screen. That makes it a little more likely, if you ask me. Not that I think it matters because:
Slightly Green wrote:
If Cras turns out to be a norm then we know Grim... is a scummer and can get rid of him tomorrow (assuming the number thing is correct)

Cone on - I've said I have no idea and was making guesses, and you're taking like I said "I'm an investigator, and Craster is bad!". That's reeks of an attempt to thin the herd as quickly as possible, so I'm going to [vote: Slightly Green]
*Crzzt*


wtf...so I use your thinking and vote for Cras, then you think that makes me look like a scummer....

Author:  ApplePieOfDestiny [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:45 ]
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I forgot to press a button. Somehow I was temporarily teleported into a client meeting in my past life then woke back up here at 10am.

Author:  Curiosity [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:45 ]
Post subject:  Re: Room Scum Day 2

Important things:

1) We should vote for Craster before the deadline
2) Anyone who received info should let the group know, unless it puts them at unreasonable risk
3) Anyone who is going to press a button today should tell us what they are going to do.

Author:  Curiosity [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:47 ]
Post subject:  Re: Room Scum Day 2

Grim... - You should press a different number today.

If you are a supah detetcive then that's ace, but there's always a chance that all your choices show as Mafia.

Author:  Mr Dave [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:52 ]
Post subject:  Re: Room Scum Day 2

Curiosity wrote:
Important things:

1) We should vote for Craster before the deadline

I dont really see why I should. Somehow he knew a "safe" win condition. there may be more to him but I am inclined not to be paranoid.

Author:  Curiosity [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:57 ]
Post subject:  Re: Room Scum Day 2

Mr Dave wrote:
Curiosity wrote:
Important things:

1) We should vote for Craster before the deadline

I dont really see why I should. Somehow he knew a "safe" win condition. there may be more to him but I am inclined not to be paranoid.


The same safe win condition that someone somehow knew last time something weird happened, and ended up gifting a town to the Cartel?

What are the chances of that?

Author:  zaphod79 [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:58 ]
Post subject:  Re: Room Scum Day 2

Curiosity wrote:
Grim... - You should press a different number today.

If you are a supah detetcive then that's ace, but there's always a chance that all your choices show as Mafia.


For the numbers there is the possibility that they are :

Players ordered alphabetically
Players ordered as listed in the main post
Players in some other random order

Cras is the 3rd player both alphabetically and in the player list - others who are in the same place for both are Curio (4) , Davpaz (5) , Mr Russ (10)

Author:  Mr Dave [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:04 ]
Post subject:  Re: Room Scum Day 2

Curiosity wrote:
Mr Dave wrote:
Curiosity wrote:
Important things:

1) We should vote for Craster before the deadline

I dont really see why I should. Somehow he knew a "safe" win condition. there may be more to him but I am inclined not to be paranoid.


The same safe win condition that someone somehow knew last time something weird happened, and ended up gifting a town to the Cartel?

What are the chances of that?


Somehow, I am not bothered. So far we know little that is concrete, and I am in no rush to 'vote' for anyone, whatever that entails.

Particularly on a logic chain that does not necessarily hold up.

Author:  TheVision [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:12 ]
Post subject:  Re: Room Scum Day 2

Someone else should press number 3 and see what they get.

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:20 ]
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Slightly Green wrote:
Grim... wrote:
Cras wrote:
Grim... wrote:
There's also a chance that it's describing Cras, as he is alphabetically player 3, but I think that's slim.

Er - no I ain't.

*Crzzt*
I think you are, and you're certainly third in the list on my screen. That makes it a little more likely, if you ask me. Not that I think it matters because:
Slightly Green wrote:
If Cras turns out to be a norm then we know Grim... is a scummer and can get rid of him tomorrow (assuming the number thing is correct)

Cone on - I've said I have no idea and was making guesses, and you're taking like I said "I'm an investigator, and Craster is bad!". That's reeks of an attempt to thin the herd as quickly as possible, so I'm going to [vote: Slightly Green]
*Crzzt*


wtf...so I use your thinking and vote for Cras, then you think that makes me look like a scummer....

*Crzzt*
No, but saying "and if it's not true we can kill Grim..." does.
There's a lot of people trying to put words into my mouth, but for all I know the screen might have been simply listing the various teams involved, and have nothing to do with an actual person.

As I made pretty clear - I have no idea. The fact that you think that's enough to a) vote for Craster, and then (more importantly) b) think that in some way makes me bad if he's good just suggests to me that you want to off people as quickly as you can.

And that's fairly telling, I reckon.
*Crzzt*

Author:  Bobbyaro [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:20 ]
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TheVision wrote:
Someone else should press number 3 and see what they get.

Yeah, this.
Also, the "unexpected" in the OP, my assumption at the time is that it was unexpected by us as it is rare for a night to pass with no deaths. However, could it be that it was a statement of truth and that the person who placed us here found it unexpected?

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:21 ]
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Unless someone disagrees, I'm going to press '4' in an hour or so.

Author:  Bobbyaro [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:22 ]
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hold on ...

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:23 ]
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Ooh, no - I should press my number. Right?
Then hopefully it will tell me what I am (devastatingly handsome) instead of just my win condition, which is the same as Craster and Mr Dave's.

Or, of course, someone else has buttons that tie numbers to people.

Author:  TheVision [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:24 ]
Post subject:  Re: Room Scum Day 2

Grim... wrote:
Ooh, no - I should press my number. Right?
Then hopefully it will tell me what I am (devastatingly handsome) instead of just my win condition, which is the same as Craster and Mr Dave's.

Or, of course, someone else has buttons that tie numbers to people.


How do you know which number is yours? Are you just going off the alphabetical list?

Author:  Curiosity [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:26 ]
Post subject:  Re: Room Scum Day 2

I know which numbers are which.

#3 is Craster.

Author:  Bobbyaro [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:26 ]
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Right, The Vision pressed a button yesterday, but I can't find if he told us which one? TV what button did you press? I assume you got no response? Grim... you should press the same button as TV if he got no response, because that tells us if it is you or the person/button combo which has the effect.

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:26 ]
Post subject:  Re: Room Scum Day 2

TheVision wrote:
Grim... wrote:
Ooh, no - I should press my number. Right?
Then hopefully it will tell me what I am (devastatingly handsome) instead of just my win condition, which is the same as Craster and Mr Dave's.

Or, of course, someone else has buttons that tie numbers to people.


How do you know which number is yours? Are you just going off the alphabetical list?

That or the player list. I'm 7 on that.

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:27 ]
Post subject:  Re: Room Scum Day 2

Curiosity wrote:
I know which numbers are which.

#3 is Craster.

*Crzzt*
Hmm.

That's pretty damning.

How do you know?
*Crzzt*

Author:  TheVision [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:28 ]
Post subject:  Re: Room Scum Day 2

Bobbyaro wrote:
Right, The Vision pressed a button yesterday, but I can't find if he told us which one? TV what button did you press? I assume you got no response? Grim... you should press the same button as TV if he got no response, because that tells us if it is you or the person/button combo which has the effect.


I pressed number 16 and got no response.

Author:  Curiosity [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:28 ]
Post subject:  Re: Room Scum Day 2

Grim... wrote:
Curiosity wrote:
I know which numbers are which.

#3 is Craster.

*Crzzt*
Hmm.

That's pretty damning.

How do you know?
*Crzzt*


I have no buttons in my cell.

I have a list.

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:29 ]
Post subject:  Re: Room Scum Day 2

*Crzzt*
Okay. Wouldn't it be sensible for you to reveal the whole list to us?
*Crzzt*

Author:  Cras [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:30 ]
Post subject:  Re: Room Scum Day 2

That would rather be revealing the list to bad guys too though, assuming they don't have it. Also assuming Curio isn't one.

Author:  Curiosity [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:31 ]
Post subject:  Re: Room Scum Day 2

Grim... wrote:
*Crzzt*
Okay. Wouldn't it be sensible for you to reveal the whole list to us?
*Crzzt*


That would give the baddies a kill list. I am hopeful that they do not possess the list, so are firing blindly.

I could be persuaded otherwise.

Author:  Bobbyaro [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:31 ]
Post subject:  Re: Room Scum Day 2

Hold, you have no buttons in your cell? And you are only mentioning this now?

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