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Author:  Trooper [ Mon Oct 17, 2011 12:00 ]
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Bad luck people...

Author:  zaphod79 [ Mon Oct 17, 2011 12:06 ]
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Or possibly good luck if your death furthered the cause of your team .....

Author:  Mr Dave [ Mon Oct 17, 2011 16:50 ]
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If people don't vote forr Befuss, I'll be disappointed.

Author:  Trooper [ Mon Oct 17, 2011 17:01 ]
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Befuss?

Some people are taking a very laissez fair attitude to their role description so far... Or they missed a PM :D
Ah well, i'll let it play out.

Author:  nickachu [ Mon Oct 17, 2011 17:01 ]
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Bollocks I forgot about this starting.

Author:  Alberto [ Mon Oct 17, 2011 17:04 ]
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I should have signed up, I'm the perfect detective!

Author:  zaphod79 [ Mon Oct 17, 2011 17:11 ]
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Alberto wrote:
I should have signed up, I'm the perfect detective!


Do you sing (or have nurses rub stuff into your cracked and blistering body)

Author:  Alberto [ Mon Oct 17, 2011 17:13 ]
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zaphod79 wrote:
Alberto wrote:
I should have signed up, I'm the perfect detective!

Do you sing (or have nurses rub stuff into your cracked and blistering body)

Mr Dave is probably the only person who can see this thread who knows why I'm perfect for the role :D

Author:  Trooper [ Mon Oct 17, 2011 17:19 ]
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Your Batman?

Author:  zaphod79 [ Mon Oct 17, 2011 17:22 ]
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Alberto wrote:
Mr Dave is probably the only person who can see this thread who knows why I'm perfect for the role
:D


However his phone will decide that your pineapple for the bread prunes

Author:  Alberto [ Mon Oct 17, 2011 17:26 ]
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Trooper wrote:
Your Batman?

My Batman what?

Author:  zaphod79 [ Mon Oct 17, 2011 17:29 ]
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Alberto wrote:
Trooper wrote:
Your Batman?

My Batman what?


Think Michael Keaton saying "I'm Batman"

Author:  Trooper [ Mon Oct 17, 2011 17:56 ]
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Alberto wrote:
Trooper wrote:
Your Batman?

My Batman what?


YOUR BATMAN FACE

Author:  Mr Dave [ Mon Oct 17, 2011 22:16 ]
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Alberto wrote:
zaphod79 wrote:
Alberto wrote:
I should have signed up, I'm the perfect detective!

Do you sing (or have nurses rub stuff into your cracked and blistering body)

Mr Dave is probably the only person who can see this thread who knows why I'm perfect for the role :D

Albertos detectiving skills are that of legend.

Author:  Trooper [ Mon Oct 17, 2011 22:32 ]
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Yay Gilly, that's the way!

Author:  zaphod79 [ Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:23 ]
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Trooper wrote:
Yay Gilly, that's the way!


:this:

For last night and the post this morning

Author:  Trooper [ Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:30 ]
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Finally some voting, I thought this was going to be the quickest game ever if nobody voted, everyone would have been arrested! :D

Author:  Trooper [ Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:08 ]
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Ah big fat "Doh!" to gospvg for not reading either the rules or my pm's :D

Author:  Alberto [ Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:19 ]
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Trooper wrote:
Ah big fat "Doh!" to gospvg for not reading either the rules or my pm's :D

Your pm's what?

Author:  Trooper [ Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:26 ]
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:D I originally wrote pms, but that didn't look right either ;)

Author:  Malc [ Wed Oct 19, 2011 13:31 ]
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If I'd stayed in the game without saying much I would have ended up being lynched probably, which would give the mafia an extra night to kill more people, so I figured bowing out gracefully would be the best bet. It's a shame as I would have liked to play this one, but with my workload as it is, I really don't think I could give the game the attention it so obviously deserves...

(That's to Mr Russ when he dies)

Malc

Author:  Trooper [ Wed Oct 19, 2011 19:33 ]
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Well, I think it's safe to say that the mvp award for the game is pretty much sewn up already :) Yay again for gilly!

Author:  Trooper [ Thu Oct 20, 2011 15:36 ]
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Hmm... I think I did the right thing in just deleting the extra posts after the cutoff, especially as it was a vote switch which affected the outcome. Leaving them in but ignoring them would have given the rest of the players info that they shouldn't have had.

Author:  zaphod79 [ Thu Oct 20, 2011 16:00 ]
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Trooper wrote:
Hmm... I think I did the right thing in just deleting the extra posts after the cutoff, especially as it was a vote switch which affected the outcome. Leaving them in but ignoring them would have given the rest of the players info that they shouldn't have had.


I agree - however I also think you should have copied them somewhere else so they could be released afterwards - and you've now created a seperate group of those who *were* reading the thread at the end and can remember some / all of those posts and those who were not and therefore dont know.

If for example I was playing and thought 'oh Alarm is shifty because i remember things that were said about him yesterday' then checked back I would not have known.

As the game runner the choice is always yours to make - perhaps for the future days it might be worth getting someone else to lock the thread at the cut off point (Although since i think all of the mods are in the game right now one of them should have done it - if i'm in the game and can see the thread has not been locked I would often post a PM to a mod asking for it to be closed)

Author:  Trooper [ Thu Oct 20, 2011 16:15 ]
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After I deleted them, I did think oops, should have taken a copy, but too late now :)

I was around at the cutoff time (well two minutes after!) so that wasn't a problem, and I usually do ask for another mod to lock if I know i'm not going to be around.

Part of it has to be on trust though, everyone knows the cutoff time, and you shouldn't post after it regardless of the thread being open or not, just as we trust people aren't talking behind the scenes when they shouldn't be etc...

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Oct 20, 2011 16:47 ]
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We log all the posts, if you want copies of them.

Author:  zaphod79 [ Thu Oct 20, 2011 16:53 ]
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Trooper wrote:
Part of it has to be on trust though, everyone knows the cutoff time, and you shouldn't post after it regardless of the thread being open or not, just as we trust people aren't talking behind the scenes when they shouldn't be etc...


I know - however its much easier to 'not notice the time' or to try and get a final word in by accident rather than actually 'cheat' in the game.

Author:  Trooper [ Thu Oct 20, 2011 17:35 ]
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Grim... wrote:
We log all the posts, if you want copies of them.


Cool, I'll shout if I do.

Author:  Trooper [ Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:28 ]
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Heh, night actions are amusingly coincidental so far...

Author:  zaphod79 [ Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:25 ]
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Gilly and others are making interesting points about the lack of voting from people - i wonder if handing people over to the cops on a majority vote is actually discouraging people from voting one way or the other - if they are unsure they can keep their 'hands clean' by not voting when they dont feel sure and therefore letting other people carry the guilt of voting for the wrong person ?

Possibly more a discussion point nearer the end of the game

Author:  Trooper [ Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:40 ]
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I agree. Once the game is over, it is worth seeing whether the voting experiment has worked or not, I think it'll come into play more towards the end of the game, but who knows.

It was worth a try, but currently I don't think that it has made much difference in terms of encouraging people to talk, and may actually be discouraging voting.

Author:  Alarm [ Fri Oct 21, 2011 23:18 ]
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Belmers.

Author:  Bobbyaro [ Sat Oct 22, 2011 9:47 ]
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wooooo. vote Kate. wait, what? how the duck do you play a movie director, in a bar, in an era which had few movies?
I found having the role made me post less, as I cpuldnct think of a eat to say things in character. just a comment.

Author:  Trooper [ Sat Oct 22, 2011 11:23 ]
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You'll note that I specifically didn't mention the era ;)

Author:  Alarm [ Mon Oct 24, 2011 17:16 ]
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Belmertron strikes again.

Author:  ElephantBanjoGnome [ Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:07 ]
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Errr I haven't really been paying attention, but was Lace lynched despite only getting the 4 out of 10 votes needed?

Author:  Malc [ Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:09 ]
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ElephantBanjoGnome wrote:
Errr I haven't really been paying attention, but was Lace lynched despite only getting the 4 out of 10 votes needed?


yes,

most votes = dead/taken to cops

Malc

Author:  Trooper [ Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:22 ]
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See, now it starts to make sense as to why people think my games are too complex. Nobody reads one rule...

Author:  Trooper [ Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:21 ]
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Jeez, considering how many people started this game, night action coincidences ahoy!

Author:  ElephantBanjoGnome [ Tue Oct 25, 2011 15:03 ]
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Trooper wrote:
See, now it starts to make sense as to why people think my games are too complex. Nobody reads one rule...

Not really, I haven't really read the forum at all for the last couple of weeks and I didn't opt into this game :P

Author:  Malc [ Tue Oct 25, 2011 15:39 ]
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Mr Russ clearly wants the hooker dead, so, one must assume he is a baddie

Malc

Author:  Mr Dave [ Tue Oct 25, 2011 16:10 ]
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Malc wrote:
Mr Russ clearly wants the hooker dead, so, one must assume he is a baddie

Malc

As I said on day 1,he needs killing as he's always bad.

Author:  LaceSensor [ Tue Oct 25, 2011 19:55 ]
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Gilly for scum.

Bobby probably ok.

Author:  Trooper [ Wed Oct 26, 2011 12:13 ]
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I think it's safe to say that the voting experiment hasn't worked, and has turned out to be yet another way to stifle conversation... :D

Ah well, worth a try :)

Author:  zaphod79 [ Wed Oct 26, 2011 12:17 ]
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Trooper wrote:
Ah well, worth a try :)


I agree - and i'm disapointed that it didnt make any difference - i'm trying to think back and the only 'odd' thing that worked was Grim... and Gaywood's "text message" thing , but that limited the talkative ones rather than encouraging the quiet ones.

I wonder if we could come up with some other artificial method to encourage them to talk (elecro shock theropy perhaps)

Author:  Malc [ Wed Oct 26, 2011 13:11 ]
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I thought it might be good to have a SK that could only kill silent people, maybe he has to choose from the 3 posters who has said the least, and eliminate one of them, maybe have it happen during the day rather than at night, for dramatic effect?

Malc

Author:  zaphod79 [ Wed Oct 26, 2011 14:19 ]
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Malc wrote:
I thought it might be good to have a SK that could only kill silent people, maybe he has to choose from the 3 posters who has said the least, and eliminate one of them, maybe have it happen during the day rather than at night, for dramatic effect?

Malc


I think Mr Dom tried to do that as Q in the Star Trek game , unfortunatly we both argued and we both ended up dead rather quickly but I agree thats an idea - I'm not sure if that should be a totally published role otherwise you'll get people spamming the thread for no good reason just to get their post count up

Author:  zaphod79 [ Wed Oct 26, 2011 14:33 ]
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All getting interesting now :-)

Author:  Trooper [ Wed Oct 26, 2011 14:33 ]
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Now it has picked up a bit! :D

Author:  zaphod79 [ Wed Oct 26, 2011 14:36 ]
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Given the very short amount of time you really need the other 'silent' players to take a part in this - its either Davpaz or Craster , one at least is a bad person - you should be making your choice and voting - right now '3' votes in total could kill someone

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