Be Excellent To Each Other

that would = wouldn't, by the way. Context was clear enough.

I count my huge piles of money.

Joans only switched to voting for Runcle after I made that very point.

I did say this yesterday, Craster pointed out that they'd be two bad guys down (the sacrificed one and himself the next day), and Iron Man isn't *that* valuable a target - it's not like he has to be killed before they can win.

In any event it seems as though the test has worked: Craster is Iron Man, Joans is.. deluded at best.

Also : Hulk.

Of course, I hold it entirely possible that there's a hidden 'thinks he's Iron Man' role. Unfortunately without using up a Deadpool night action, there's no way to differentiate between that and a lying bad guy.

edit: oh, wouldn't. Never mind.

Joans: do you know who Hulk is?

Better a lynch than relying on venom. Assuming he exists, and was reckless on the first night, Venom has a problem if we're wrong.

Of course I do.

Let's face it - the deck is stacked against the town. We have one semi-useful investigative role, and a killing role that can backfire terribly. There are three baddie killing roles out there, or two kills and an investigation. We're only down to that few bad guys through what appears to me to be dumb luck or surprisingly astute play from some peoples.

Joans is a liar, and you Lynch All Liars.

If he has a secret role that makes him think that he's Iron Man then c'est la vie. it wouldn't surprise me given that it would be a neat trick to prevent the usefulness of an early Iron man roleclaim. It would, however, tilt the balance even further away from town, and be exceptionally harsh.

He's gotta go.

So Joans is wrong - my money is on a hidden role of some description however he's not iron man so we should off him.

After the to and fro stuff at the end of yesterday i'm also convinced that GJ isnt one of Dooms lot (cause she pulled the trigger on Runcle) and Rodafowa (although now too late for him) as he pushed things back to runcle when it could have timed out (and Curio / Mr Dom as well).

Doesnt mean they are good - just that they are less likely to be with Dr Doom.

For the other votes yesterday :

kalmar: 1 (Mr Dave)

Stands out as an odd (wasted?) vote from Mr Dave

I know I was pushing for a lynch and had targetted GJ those voting for her in one of the last count messages :

goddess jasmine: 5 (JBR, Bobbyaro, Morte, kalmar, superdupergill)

Should all also be slightly suspicious.

If pushed to reveal it, would you?

Also, last night: three kills, this night, three kills. This night there were certainly no venom kills, else he'd be dead.

If venom was responsible, where did the extra kill come from?

Doom can choose to investigate or kill.

I would, but how would that help?

It wouldn't
I was just trying to get some idea of what's going on. Clearly you're not Iron Man buddy, it's about time you realised that.

But... but... I am.

If this current situation hadn't arisen, I'd still be sticking with that vote, or maybe superdupergill.

If Joans genuinely believes he's Iron Man and genuinely believes he knows who some good guys are, then he's going to be protecting people who may well be scum, as I assume his knowledge would also be fake. Which would be bad.

I do think the simplest explanation is simply that he's a scummy scummy scumster, though, who's committed to to the Iron Man thing and is trying desperately to confuse the issue in the hope that he might just somehow survive. Remember, if he is one of the Doom squad, he has allies who can mix things up and also try to confuse things.

I say we kill him dead. It's the only way to be sure.

Any particular reason why ?

And i think if this isnt going anywhere else today we should at some point agree to just off the fake Iron man in that we dont know whats going on but it gives us someone we cant exactly trust.

And we do know the SK is 'mad'

I wonder if there is an escaped lunatic and shrink around here - however if so the shrink should have targeted one 'claimed' iron man roles yesterday

Of course going for GJ now appears somewhat suspect. I was ready to switch back to Runcle in the final minutes if it was otherwise going to a no lynch, but the count is what counts.

I stand by voting for someone quiet though - I'd probably go for Morte again in absence of other conditions.

Don't rely on venom to do it. If he's a misguided townie, that'll put venom out of action - so in retrospect it's probably a good thing that last night went the way it did.

Don't rely on venom to do it. If he's a misguided townie, that'll put venom out of action - so in retrospect it's probably a good thing that last night went the way it did.

Just they way they've interacted with the group, really. Both of them also voted away from Runcle - not exactly compelling. Who was trying to shift the vote to GJ yesterday? I cannot remember and have not the time to look right now.



As I said, a lynch is better than risking venom, given the case.



Who isn't?

Joans - did your info have Dr Gaywood as Spiderman? If so, do not say who the others are. If not, then tell us which three people you had.

Craster - where do we go from here once we lynch Joans? You're the only unimpeachable person here, and your instinct on Runcle was good. Anyone else you think might be dodgy?

Excuse me!

Yes, of course I knew Gaywood was Spiderman, just as I know who the other two are.

I'll buy that.



Well, Mr Dave there does seem to be throwing in a lot of (wrong) possibilities..

Yes, you called Runcle, but you could still be the dirty SK. Craster can't be anyone other than Iron Man.

Jill kicked it off, I followed as I was worried about the possibility of Runcle being Venom (as Craster was being so positive about knowing he was, and that we should lynch, I thought he had to be Doom).

My hands are up, I was wrong about that. Doesn't mean GJ is innocent mind you, but there wasn't any evidence her in the first place, only being too quiet.

I suppose I technically could be, but I'm not. It would be insane behaviour to try and frame someone like that. I haven't got the balls.

Craster might not be Iron Man either. Okay, so he almost certainly is, but it's possible both Craster and Joans were lying about their role claim and that Venom didn't target Craster and that the real Iron Man is sitting around watching all this with bemused fascination.

I can't seen any reason not to [vote:joans].

I'm more confused than bemused.
*huddles up in corner*

Also, with the moaning about games, does that remind anyone of someone?

The poor sod's a menkle. Should we really be lynching him?

Oh, Yes? OK.

Edit, from the SK, I mean.

MetalAngel?

I know you mean me, you twat!

Get people talking.... never know what they may say.

Could be seen as just confusing the issue, which I don't think is at all helpful.

I think today's really simple. Joans has to die. It's all we've got - and it's a pretty good bet.

It's clear he's going, regardless, noones going to risk a vote for anyone else.

Sadly I think we're going to be in a pretty bad state in the morning, and we still don't have much information. LOTS of people lurking about saying nothing at all.

[vote:Joans]

Looks around
Looks at mob
Looks at Iron Man...

I just wanted to be you. I was going to save everyone and you had to ruin it.

*sobs* good bye

[vote:Joans]

I think we've got about all we can from this day.

(and Venom probably does exist, but it was worth throwing the possibility out, and seeing who got somewhat excited by the thought)

Ok, I don't know enough about super heroes to pick up on some of this stuff, who wanted to be Iron Man?

Lock pls.

Everyone stalks menacingly toward Joans, but before anyone can get there, he pulls a gun. Horrified, the crowd steps back, but Joans, with tears rolling down his face, turns the gun on himself. It isn't pretty.
In his pocket is a bank statement - it says his name is Tony Stark, and that he is massively in debt, the result of trying to live a life he couldn't afford.
Joans was The Wannabe.

"Wannabe" role added to the rules. That was the only secret role in the game. Night actions in by 10am Tuesday. Have a great holiday, everyone.