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 Post subject: Adobe kill Creative Suite
PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2013 21:31 
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As I predicted, Adobe have killed off the concept that you buy software from them. They now want you to lease it from them every month:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/05/06/adobe_kills_creative_suite_for_cloud/


Just breathtaking really. All those poor sods who struggled to scrimp the cash together to get CS suite and who didn't upgrade every year (the kind of punters Adobe hated) now forced to cough up every month.

For people who have a CS3 or newer serial the sub price is £27.34 + VAT per month which works out at about the same price as the old upgrade cost.

If you have CS6, the first year is listed as £17.58 a month. Note that's the first year. More of that later.

If you have no serial the price is a whopping £46.88 a month.

No indication on if that £46 a year goes down after the first year or if the £27.34 will go up to the full £46.

On the upside, from my point of view I'd get access to Dreamweaver and Indesign which I don't currently have.

All in all I'm not sure about the concept of leasing software. After all the Pickford Brothers haven't turned up on my doorstep demanding money every month since 1986 for my copy of Zub.


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 Post subject: Re: Adobe kill Creative Suite
PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2013 21:41 
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So... If you have a full copy of CS5, do you still have to pay?

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 Post subject: Re: Adobe kill Creative Suite
PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2013 21:44 
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Grim... wrote:
So... If you have a full copy of CS5, do you still have to pay?


Well.....

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For people who have a CS3 or newer serial the sub price is £27.34 + VAT per month which works out at about the same price as the old upgrade cost.


If you are saying that your copy is on a C90 dubbed by a friend on his Amstrad twin tape deck, then I must point out that Adobe ask for a valid serial number in the same way they used to validate the upgrades for previous versions.


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 Post subject: Re: Adobe kill Creative Suite
PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 6:43 
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 Post subject: Re: Adobe kill Creative Suite
PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 7:20 
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But... Surely they can't suddenly start charging me to use software I bought?

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 Post subject: Re: Adobe kill Creative Suite
PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 7:31 
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I think Chinny means you can't buy an upgrade, you have to lease the upgrade. Or just stick with your version of CS5.

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 Post subject: Re: Adobe kill Creative Suite
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That I can deal with.

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 Post subject: Re: Adobe kill Creative Suite
PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 14:14 
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Grim... wrote:
But... Surely they can't suddenly start charging me to use software I bought?


No. But you are the kind of scumbag that are between them and $$$$$. How dare you not be on the latest version!

Some interesting posts on El Reg. One poster has worked out that by year 3 of a cloud sub, you'd be paying twice as much as you were previously.

Also Adobe are offering a one time special upgrade price until July for CS6 users..... however there's no software upgrades with it. They are selling you what you already have again! Not such a fucking special offer eh chums?


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 Post subject: Re: Adobe kill Creative Suite
PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 14:43 
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I'm still using the nice free version of CS2.

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 Post subject: Re: Adobe kill Creative Suite
PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 14:58 
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Mr Burrrrt wrote:
I'm still using the nice free version of CS6.

:this:


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 Post subject: Re: Adobe kill Creative Suite
PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 14:59 
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That's good until your sent CS6 files to update.

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 Post subject: Re: Adobe kill Creative Suite
PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 15:09 
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Zardoz wrote:
That's good until your sent CS6 files to update.


:this:

+ CS2 is ancient. Plug ins won't work with it and it cannot harness modern hardware.


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 Post subject: Re: Adobe kill Creative Suite
PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 15:21 
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chinnyhill10 wrote:
Zardoz wrote:
That's good until your sent CS6 files to update.


:this:

+ CS2 is ancient. Plug ins won't work with it and it cannot harness modern hardware.


I actually still use PS CS1 most of the time. I can't remember the last time I had to work on someone else's files. Macs at work always have the latest version anyway. I don't use any plugins and I'm still using a PPC Mac. I suppose I'll have to upgrade when I eventually get one of them new-fangled Intel things.

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 Post subject: Re: Adobe kill Creative Suite
PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 16:20 
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I actually still use PS CS1 most of the time. I can't remember the last time I had to work on someone else's files. Macs at work always have the latest version anyway. I don't use any plugins and I'm still using a PPC Mac. I suppose I'll have to upgrade when I eventually get one of them new-fangled Intel things


Bizarrely they had CS1 for sale in a charity shop for 99p at the weekend, complete with serial key. On the downside its so old Adobe have switched off the activation servers so even though I legitimately own it, I had to resort to a crack to get it licensed.

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+ CS2 is ancient. Plug ins won't work with it and it cannot harness modern hardware.

This is what Adobe officially say on CS2.

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Adobe has disabled the activation server for CS2 products, including Acrobat 7, because of a technical issue. These products were released more than seven years ago, do not run on many modern operating systems, and are no longer supported.

Adobe strongly advises against running unsupported and outdated software. The serial numbers below should only be used by customers who legitimately purchased CS2 or Acrobat 7 and need to maintain their current use of these products.

Though to be honest the version of Audition I got from their download site works well in Vista and XP, maybe its just Win 7 or later.

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 Post subject: Re: Adobe kill Creative Suite
PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 10:12 
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What an excellent idea. This will no doubt crack down on piracy like never before.

*sarcasm meter explosion*

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 Post subject: Re: Adobe kill Creative Suite
PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 15:05 
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Adobe has disabled the activation server for CS2 products, including Acrobat 7, because of a technical issue. These products were released more than seven years ago, do not run on many modern operating systems, and are no longer supported.

Adobe strongly advises against running unsupported and outdated software. The serial numbers below should only be used by customers who legitimately purchased CS2 or Acrobat 7 and need to maintain their current use of these products.



Adobe can strongly advise what the fuck they like really :roll: . I have an old Mac with an old OS and lots of old software that works perfectly well thankyouverymuch.

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 Post subject: Re: Adobe kill Creative Suite
PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2013 13:55 
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Fancy some of that Creative Cloud action? Then BEND OVER AND BE ADOBE'S BITCH!

http://macperformanceguide.com/blog/2013/20130508_1a-Adobe-legal-agreement.html


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 Post subject: Re: Adobe kill Creative Suite
PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2013 16:21 
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I loved this bit:
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So I actually took the time to read the whole license agreement (nasty stuff). I apparently took too long— it’s pretty clear that they don’t actually expect you to read the stuff, hence the login times out


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 Post subject: Re: Adobe kill Creative Suite
PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2013 21:39 
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People actually bought Adobe software? I thought it's the reason piracy exists. £5000000 for an image editor? NO THANKS.

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 Post subject: Re: Adobe kill Creative Suite
PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 19:20 
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People actually bought Adobe software? I thought it's the reason piracy exists. £5000000 for an image editor? NO THANKS.


Lightroom 4 costs just £90 and is the single best thing you can buy for digital photography other than an actual camera itself. And it's not going to be included in their awful cloud idea, thank God, and will remain on the old business model. Its genuinely worth buying. Sure, you can pirate it. I used to use LR3 for a short while on an infinite trial hack, but it was so good I just had to pony up the cash.

I :luv: LR4 , it does absolutely everything I need it to do and has never let me down.

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 Post subject: Re: Adobe kill Creative Suite
PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 20:05 
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Pod wrote:
People actually bought Adobe software? I thought it's the reason piracy exists. £5000000 for an image editor? NO THANKS.


Meanwhile over in the land where we use the software to earn our living.........


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