Be Excellent To Each Other

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1740707/

Not coming to a cinema in the UK soon, so grab it online. I'll be buying the DVD when there is one.

Awesomely I already have this to watch and knew nothing about it.

Lights down, sound up... it's a light hearted mixture of Stalker, Blair Witch, Cloverfield and anything with a gruff hunter in it. There is much humour but it is all as dry as a nun's cunt.

Superb.

Somerset house is doing a triple bill of this, gremlins and tremours. Which says enough by itself.

Grabbing now although I'm assuming I'll need a version with English subs, and they're not clearly marked on usenet.

I need some kind of newzbin type site.

nzbmatrix.com seems good.

Unfortunately all the versions up on usenet at the moment appear to be in Norwegian and minus English subs.

Yay found one with English subs.

When will the fucking film industry understand that they need to get films like this on a digital distribution network and I'll happily give them some money for them.

The.Trollhunter.2010.Nordish.READNFO.BDRip.XVID.AC3.HQ.Hive-CM8.avi was the name of the torrent I got - cracking picture, good subs. Tracker from TPB and fairly rapid.

I'll bet we can buy the remake on Blue ray before the original in this country Such a disgrace that European film is less popular in this country than American film, when it is generally so much better.

Me no do torrents.

Isn't that P2P so by definition you're broadcasting your IP address to everyone you're sharing with?

This is the one I've got coming down - Trolljegeren 2010 720p BRRip AC3 x264 MacGuffin

2.75GB so not a silly size either.

"If I wanted to read summfink, I'd buy a magazine, innit!"

One of my mate's missus is like this, she absolutely, genuinely and without exception refuses flat out to watch any film that's subtitled, however much it's the sort of thing she might like, or how well regarded it is, or anything else. Subtitles = no watch. Bonkers if you ask me.

European and British cinema are far better than your average Yank trash. That's not to say that there isn't some excellent American cinema out there, but a lot of the time I'm simply left wondering how they manage to spend so much money to achieve so little. Or to take a really good book or idea and spectacularly fuck it up on the screen.

They can't resist stinking things up with mawkish sentimentality and they're terrified of not having a shite happy ending, however much the story arc might demand something else.

European and British cinema are far more honest, far more prepared to explore the dark places and as a result when they do happy and joyful it comes over with far more sincerity.

I've never had a problem with subtitles, even on English films. Sometimes, if the dialogue is quiet or has strong accents, I'll turn them on just so I don't miss anything. And although I've got the UK versions of stuff like Shaolin Soccer and Kung-Fu Hustle, I've never watched them as I'm happy enough watching the original, with subtitles and no dubbing.

It is, of course, highly probable that audiences in the UK would only get to see the good examples of EU filmaking. The stuff that isn't brilliant (Taxi 2 springs to mind) wouldn't get picked up.

Subtitles are fine, but I have a zero tolerance policy on dubbed films.

Word.

I don't like subtitles on a film, I struggle to read them at a distance, and it makes my eyes tired, I then end up missing action on the film. That said, I don't really like films anyway, so maybe not the target audience. :|

Dubbed Kung Fu films are amazingly entertaining.

I don't, not really; they don't require any thought or imagination, no skill or interaction and I just get a little bored.

Wow, really? Good films always fire my imagination. Do you like theatre?

How odd.

How about Foreign Special Interest films? They can get pretty interactive.

I'll be having some of that. Thank you, GY!

Not hugely, although the audience aspect is greater cf theatre. I can appreciate a good film, but would rather be doing something else at the same time, and struggle to just settle down and watch a film or TV.

You're not just trying to watch gash like Transformers or something, are you?

Yeah but Bobbyaro you've not seen Troll Hunter yet. The fucking guy HUNTS TROLLS!

If you can think of any real-world activity that is better than watching a guy hunt a troll, you aren't thinking properly.

Also, do you like nice scenery? This has got some of the best scenery in anything in it, and you can just look at the nice scenery, with ADDED TROLL BONUS.

See, this is the sort of stuff I need to know when you talk about film. I don't need anything gay like "overwhelming story arch taking place over three sagas" or someone explaining how they are "creative" when the are only reading someone else's words like a slightly more expensive ventriloquists doll, or even an "actor's journey through the character".

I want a guy, with a stick, in Scandanavia, hunting trolls.

Fucking awesome.

It's a stick with a lamp on the end, but yeah.

IN A LAND ROVER

yeah, totally watching this!

It was Chicago. And the bloke doesn't learn ballet, he teaches the lass that...Oh fuck it, I've walked into this one, haven't I?

With spikes on it!

Sample dialogue:

Well I've got this ready to go for tonight, for anyone else grabbing it off usenet I can confirm that:

Trolljegeren 2010 720p BRRip AC3 x264 MacGuffin

Is a perfect Blu-Ray rip with full English subtitles track. VLC plays it fine. Under 3GB download. Just had a little look at it and it's all fine.

Mrs AE is at a Morrissey gig tonight so once AE Jnr is in bed I'll crack open a beer and watch it

I know nothing about the film and I'm deliberately not going to read up on it at all. I literally know it's about a dude who hunts trolls, and that's it.

NO MORE SPOILERS!

*SPOILURZ* HE'S GOT A HAT *SPOILURZ*

I can see where Bobbyaro is coming from in a way, although I am a film fan.

20% of the time I want a good film, that entertains, educates, makes me think and has some depth to it.
80% of the time I just want to be entertained with big explosions, laughs and tits. I use films as pure entertainment most of the time, I don't always need depth and complexity. Generally if it makes me laugh and passes the time, i'm perfectly happy

Some films are just too fucking "worthy"...

All, right. ALL RIGHT! Shut up! I'm downloading it!

We live in a post-Snakes On A Plane-era, my friend.

I'm confident when I' say I'm the only person on the internet who thought it was shit.

I haven't seen it. Have no intention of doing so.

See, there's your evidence based proof right there.

I agree with Bobby on subtitles. Films are crafted to take account of where you'll be looking all the way through. If you instead spend all the time with your eyes trying to read what's at the bottom of the screen, you're missing half of it.

If you look at an .srt file for a film they're usually surprisingly short, plus you'll generally read it far quicker than the actors speak. I don't feel as though I miss much at all due to glancing down to read the lines.

I find subs perfectly acceptable, during the moments of dialogue you're never really missing much action. You can always rewind it a bit too ffs.

It's not like you're reading massive walls of text, and it only takes a second (or less) for the eyes to process the raw text of the dialogue, and the brain then matches it up to the pictures automatically, or at least that's what I find anyway. And yes, due to the rhythm and style of human speech, what takes no time at all to read in the subtitles is usually spoken over quite some time.

Plus an awful lot of human communication is non-verbal anyway, if you've never watched a foreign language film without subtitles, you might be surprised if you did to realise how much of a film it's possible to follow despite having no idea what the protagonists are actually saying.

On top of that, most films don't have any dialogue at all for a good chunk of their running time.

I watched Irreversible with no subtitles and managed to follow the film pretty well, despite my grasp of the French language having been left at sub-GCSE level.

Although admittedly there was no need for any speech at all for 'the fire extinguisher bit':

WARNING NSFW GRAPHIC VIOLENCE -

Similarly when I first watched Man On Fire it didn't have the subtitles for the Spanish language bits, so I had to sort of work out what was going on from the expressions and speech patterns and body language and all that stuff. When I watched the film a second time it was a proper version with subtitles, and I was not entirely surprised to discover that I'd pretty much nailed 100% what was going on and who was trying to do what etc for all the Spanish bits, despite not being able to speak a word of the language.

I've noticed that whenever we're watching a subtitled film I still have to turn the volume up if the dialogue sounds too quiet.

And if I am focussing on the text, I am missing this non-verbal communication. Note, I am thinking of cinema film viewings.