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 Post subject: I'm going to make a forum
PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 19:53 
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Don't worry, I won't force us all to use it ;)

But I'm fed up with forums (like this one) being somewhat archaic.

Who has great ideas of stuff they'd like to see in a web forum?

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 20:05 
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homepage that automatically updates as you watch it, with new threads, and updated threads moving up the list.

The ability to add other forum's posts (from an rss feed or something) into your own personalised homepage.

The ability to "ignore" threads as well as users.

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Tree based discussion thread navigation
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 Post subject: Re: I'm going to make a forum
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First and the last one - Hell yes. Can you explain the second one a bit more?

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 Post subject: Re: I'm going to make a forum
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 Post subject: Re: I'm going to make a forum
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 Post subject: Re: I'm going to make a forum
PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 20:37 
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Grim..., I think you should start a new forum, and have it as a "reboot" of this place, a Year Zero if you will. A new beginning for a new era of change and re-beginningness.


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 Post subject: Re: I'm going to make a forum
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You misunderstand - I'm going to code a new forum system, not just set another one up.

One of the main things is that the engine is going to be completely separate from the interface, with the interface communicating with the engine through an api. That way it'll be dandy for phones, tablets and web-browsers alike, and it will be easy to make add-ons for it (as opposed to "next to impossible", like this one).

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 Post subject: Re: I'm going to make a forum
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What? A schism you say?! Down with BEEX! Fuck all of you! See you on Grim...'s new TwitterUsenet forum! Cunts!


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What? A schism you say?! Down with BEEX! Fuck all of you! See you on Grim...'s new TwitterUsenet forum! Cunts!

That sounds like a Hero of Excellence wet dream.

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 Post subject: Re: I'm going to make a forum
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 Post subject: I'm going to make a forum
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 Post subject: Re: I'm going to make a forum
PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 21:47 
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I will be hitting you all up for advice, though.

For instance: Searching. I thinking a table for every word 3 chars or more long, with a CRC32-hashed index of said words, the user id and the thread id. As that'd get very big it could be sharded into initial letters.
But what about when "someone searches in quotes"? Just pull it from the posts table? That'd be quite a task, and the posts table would have to run on an InnoDB engine for non-locking selects, so no fulltext indexes. Maybe have a MyISAM tables with the whole post in just for that?

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 Post subject: Re: I'm going to make a forum
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Maybe have a MyISAM tables with the whole post in just for that?

Yeah, that's probably how I'd do it.

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 Post subject: Re: I'm going to make a forum
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Maybe have a MyISAM tables with the whole post in just for that?

Yeah, that's probably how I'd do it.

I don't think it's such a bad choice. The denormalisation isn't a problem as long as you code properly, and it won't be that big compared to the 'main' posts table (as MyIsam tables are typically 1/3rd the size of InnoDB, and it wouldn't have as much stuff in, either).

Do you think I should shard the posts table? If so, what would be the most sensible way to do it?

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 Post subject: Re: I'm going to make a forum
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 Post subject: Re: I'm going to make a forum
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From the limited testing I've done on this forum, though, that's where the bottleneck is.

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 Post subject: Re: I'm going to make a forum
PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 22:19 
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Back to searching, the way this forum does it is to have one table called wordlist that (not surprisingly) lists all of the words on the forum, and another table called 'wordmatch' that lists the id of the word and the id of the post it is in. Apart from (I'm guessing) some slowness updating the index when adding new words (to either table) that's not a bad idea.

[edit]It'd be even better if you sharded to initial letters and shard the id table to, say, 5,000,000.

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 Post subject: Re: I'm going to make a forum
PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 22:24 
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Make it so you can search you PMs.

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 Post subject: Re: I'm going to make a forum
PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 22:33 
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Yeah, I figured I'd just make the PMs normal posts that only certain people could see, that way they'd be searchable like anything else.

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 Post subject: Re: I'm going to make a forum
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In more exciting database news, I'm going to try partitioning :S

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 Post subject: Re: I'm going to make a forum
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Can you make it be not blue?


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 Post subject: Re: I'm going to make a forum
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Hmm.
What other colour could it be?

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 Post subject: Re: I'm going to make a forum
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Any colour you want, because you can set your colour preference for every element in your user profile.

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 Post subject: Re: I'm going to make a forum
PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 2:02 
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Any colour you want, because you can set your colour preference for every element in your user profile.

Yeah, but who's going to bother? You can do that here. Have you? Hell no.

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 Post subject: Re: I'm going to make a forum
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No you can't...can you?

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 Post subject: Re: I'm going to make a forum
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No you can't...can you?

You can - not in your UCP, but you can make a style / theme if you like.

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 Post subject: Re: I'm going to make a forum
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Well, quite. Fuck that.

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 Post subject: Re: I'm going to make a forum
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I've seen/made things where the user can set their own colours and fonts and stuff, and everybody leaves them the Hell alone because otherwise you make a fucking mess ;)

Might put it in anyway, for shits and giggles.

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 Post subject: Re: I'm going to make a forum
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They've got it on a product I've just put in at work, and it works pretty well.

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 Post subject: Re: I'm going to make a forum
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I will add it in, just for you.

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 Post subject: Re: I'm going to make a forum
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Pinning your own threads to the top. Or maybe quick links to selected threads/posts.

Surprised nobody has mentioned a "like" type button. Useful for compiling posts of the week or cutting down on "this" type posts.


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 Post subject: Re: I'm going to make a forum
PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 11:31 
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Pinning your own threads to the top. Or maybe quick links to selected threads/posts.

If that's possible, it'd be brilliant. I could have metal thread, football, Cheap iPhone etc always there.

Conversely, could we have a 'this sucks'-type de-prioritiser? Where threads we'll never click into can have negative weighting, thereby placing them below 'neutral' threads, never to be seen again?

I doubt it's possible, but if anyone can do it, it's Grim...

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Ability to download entire threads. Basically, offline reading options.

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Bluecup wrote:
Pinning your own threads to the top. Or maybe quick links to selected threads/posts.

If that's possible, it'd be brilliant. I could have metal thread, football, Cheap iPhone etc always there.

Conversely, could we have a 'this sucks'-type de-prioritiser? Where threads we'll never click into can have negative weighting, thereby placing them below 'neutral' threads, never to be seen again?

I doubt it's possible, but if anyone can do it, it's Grim...


Like a 'hide' option?


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Browser for the uploaded images.
Stats for length of time spent online, most posts made in a day etc for every poster.
POTW button.
Ability to foe admins and mods.
Personal stickies/non stickies as suggested above. A 'show me first/last' type thing.
Custom smiley uploader (and a most popularly used counter to avoid dross).
Better spam account detection eg inability to start new thread until ten posts have been made for example.
Dedicated mafia tools.eg for a gamesmaster seeing who hasn't posted in a day's thread for example.
Mandatory topic icons. ;)
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Mr Russell wrote:
Ability to foe admins and mods.


I knew I didn't like you.

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 Post subject: I'm going to make a forum
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Hmm.
What other colour could it be?

pink, please!

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 Post subject: Re: I'm going to make a forum
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throughsilver wrote:
Bluecup wrote:
Pinning your own threads to the top. Or maybe quick links to selected threads/posts.

If that's possible, it'd be brilliant. I could have metal thread, football, Cheap iPhone etc always there.

Conversely, could we have a 'this sucks'-type de-prioritiser? Where threads we'll never click into can have negative weighting, thereby placing them below 'neutral' threads, never to be seen again?

I doubt it's possible, but if anyone can do it, it's Grim...

Like a 'hide' option?

Yeah, that's probably what I was driving at.

So yeah, what Malc said, then. :munkeh:

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throughsilver wrote:
Goddess Jasmine wrote:
throughsilver wrote:
Bluecup wrote:
Pinning your own threads to the top. Or maybe quick links to selected threads/posts.

If that's possible, it'd be brilliant. I could have metal thread, football, Cheap iPhone etc always there.

Conversely, could we have a 'this sucks'-type de-prioritiser? Where threads we'll never click into can have negative weighting, thereby placing them below 'neutral' threads, never to be seen again?

I doubt it's possible, but if anyone can do it, it's Grim...

Like a 'hide' option?

Yeah, that's probably what I was driving at.

So yeah, what Malc said, then. :munkeh:

Malc? :'(

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Aye. First reply.

Ah! I see it now. :)

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Craster wrote:
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Ability to foe admins and mods.

I knew I didn't like you.

There are, of course, sensible reasons for not being able to ignore "power users".

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Grim... wrote:
Craster wrote:
Mr Russell wrote:
Ability to foe admins and mods.

I knew I didn't like you.

There are, of course, sensible reasons for not being able to ignore "power users".

Just as there are sensible reasons for being able to ignore them of course.

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Mr Russell wrote:
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Craster wrote:
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Ability to foe admins and mods.

I knew I didn't like you.

There are, of course, sensible reasons for not being able to ignore "power users".

Just as there are sensible reasons for being able to ignore them of course.

Like what?

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Who has great ideas of stuff they'd like to see in a web forum?


BOOBS

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