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 Post subject: Sky 3D
PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 20:14 
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Local pub has been offered this as a trial. Apparently, it comes through the normal SKY and stuffs. That's all I know.

Tell me more.

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 Post subject: Re: Sky 3D
PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 20:33 
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I assume it isn't actually 3D, just simulated depth.

3D glasses? Polorised lenses?

Football flying out of the screen! WOOOOO! BUY A PINT.


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 Post subject: Re: Sky 3D
PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 20:39 
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With 3D telly screens becoming ever-popular, and costing around £2,000, BSkyB's system can deliver 3D pics to one of the new screens using an existing HD box and satellite dish.


all i could be bothered to look up, the pub would need to buy a new fangled 3D TV.

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 Post subject: Re: Sky 3D
PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 20:44 
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But 3D TVs (which are just tellys displaying an image at 120hz, alternating between frames for the left and right eye), require a pair of expensive glasses for each viewer.

That's probably not practical/cost effective for a pub.


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 Post subject: Re: Sky 3D
PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 21:21 
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MaliA wrote:
Local pub has been offered this as a trial. Apparently, it comes through the normal SKY and stuffs. That's all I know.

Tell me more.


Murdoch wants another thing he can charge gulliable idiots for.


Sport and movies? Only £2 a month guvner.

You want HD? That's extra.

You want a PVR? Cough up.

3D you say? Well I can make that happen for a few quid extra a month.


I hate to think of the poor sods spending money on all that shit each month. Still it's that or the heroin they will need to fill their empty lives.


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 Post subject: Re: Sky 3D
PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 21:34 
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the economics of it don't concern me. The knowhow does.

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 Post subject: Re: Sky 3D
PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 21:49 
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Well, is it a projector or a telly?

If it is a projector, they will likely need a new projector, that projects two images.

The projector is given two videos, one an image designed to be seen by the right eye, and one for the left.

The left image is projected in polarised* light, aligned vertically, and the right image is polarised light aligned horizontally. These images are then projected onto the same screen.

Then each person gets a pair of cheap plastic glasses, the left eye of which will block out all light except vertically polarised light, and the right eye will block out all light except horizontally polarised light (which is why they appear grey).

To simulate the effect of depth, on the two images if an object in the same place on both images, it will appear to be on the very front of the screen. If an object is further apart on the two images, it will appear to be deeper in the screen.

That's the basic idea. They can do some clever things to make this better (like circular polarisation to make it so you can tilt your head without breaking the effect), and it will likely be in HD resolutions.

For stuff to work on this, it would have to be specially filmed for it, which would be done by having a "3D camera", essentially a video camera with two lenses, filming two seperate images.

It frustrates me a little when this is described as 3D, because it really isnt. What this effect cannot do is make it so when you move your head your perspective changes.

*Polarised light is light that is paralel. Basically, waves of light are a wobbly line, and you can filter light to make it so they all wobble in the same direction.

That probably covers the basics, and is just from the top of my head so I may have some details wrong.


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 Post subject: Re: Sky 3D
PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 22:25 
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chinnyhill10 wrote:

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The link on my post above has a vid-e-o about how the tech works in sky customer lingo, didn't fancy watching it myself.

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 Post subject: Re: Sky 3D
PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 22:39 
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So, new 3D tellys can shoot out polarised light then?

For gaming in the home, I think this kind of thing is far more interesting, since it works with all existing screens, uses really cheap hardware, and can accurately simulate perspective, as well as having interactivity (a simple gameplay application could be a lightgun game where you have to move to see targets).

Although the downside is that the illusion only works for one person.


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 Post subject: Re: Sky 3D
PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 22:50 
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I would have thought that you can already get 3D fights in Chavpub for free...


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 Post subject: Re: Sky 3D
PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 22:51 
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Kern wrote:
I would have thought that you can already get 3D fights in Chavpub for free...


Apparently, I missed barman vs punter on Saturday night....

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 Post subject: Re: Sky 3D
PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 1:11 
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So, new 3D tellys can shoot out polarised light then?

For gaming in the home, I think this kind of thing is far more interesting, since it works with all existing screens, uses really cheap hardware, and can accurately simulate perspective, as well as having interactivity (a simple gameplay application could be a lightgun game where you have to move to see targets).

Although the downside is that the illusion only works for one person.


I think I read somewhere that he works for nintendo now because of these videos. Be honest this was 2 years ago and I still cant believe nintendo hasnt done something with it rather than make shit like heartbeat monitors.


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 Post subject: Re: Sky 3D
PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 1:48 
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Looks like it is Microsoft actually
http://johnnylee.net/

Thing is, it doesn't even use any of the advanced Wii/remote hardware, it literally just needs a computer (could be a PC/360/PS3/Wii), a basic IR camera (costs very very little, seing as it is one of the cheapest parts of the £30 RRP Wii remote), and a pair of plastic glasses with LEDs on them.

I would be more excited about that than Natal, and it would be cheaper.

I am baffled that this kind of tech (which could have been done years ago, the cool thing about Jonny Lee's version of it was that it used readily available hardware) isn't more commonplace. It would not be hard for any of the platform holders to package it together for, say £25, or £40 with a decent game.


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