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 Post subject: Recruitment advice
PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 17:07 
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I'm looking for a contract. A job has come up on Major Job Hunting Website. I spoke to the recruiter and posted him my CV. An hour later, the same job was posted on Major Job Hunting Website.

Have I to send my CV to those recruiters as well? Are they piggy backing on the original ad, in the hope of gazumping the business from the original recruiter? What happens if the client (public sector, NHS) chooses only CVs from recruiter X and I am with recruiter Y (which is a recognisable name in the recruitment business, and the others aren't.)

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 Post subject: Re: Recruitment advice
PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 17:08 
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Ask the people that put the original ad on, surely?

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 Post subject: Re: Recruitment advice
PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 17:12 
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I can't be 100% on the original ad. I only got on to recruiter X (we'll call them Lotus) because they posted it an hour before everyone else. So either they are the original recruiter, or they are just more efficient and the client has got around everybody else.

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 Post subject: Re: Recruitment advice
PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 17:17 
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Would it harm to submit CVs to both? I wouldn't have thought so.

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 Post subject: Re: Recruitment advice
PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 17:27 
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Go to the client direct?

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 Post subject: Re: Recruitment advice
PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 17:43 
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Jobs are placed with the agency for a reason, they don't deal direct.

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 Post subject: Re: Recruitment advice
PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 17:50 
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I'd go to both and run from there. You wouldn't lose anything, I wouldn't have thought.

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 Post subject: Re: Recruitment advice
PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 18:48 
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The more agencies your CV is with the better your chances.

You are a free agent, no agency can claim you as "theirs" preventing another from putting you forward.

And it isn't a bad thing for them to get your CV twice from two separate sources!

Also I as a taxpayer, I DEMAND they deal direct instead of paying an agency £000's to forward on your email!

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 Post subject: Re: Recruitment advice
PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 18:51 
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Also I as a taxpayer, I DEMAND they deal direct instead of paying an agency £000's to forward on your email!


Well, quite. Are you *sure* they don't deal direct? Might be worth having a look on the jobs.nhs website, or is it like an IT subcontract?


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 Post subject: Re: Recruitment advice
PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 20:14 
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IT subcontract.

CV went to two of the four that advertised the job. The other two were clearly chancing it. (Never heard of the agencies, not based near where the job was.)

One of the agencies rejected my application in SIX minutes. Apparently I wasn't shortlisted. Amazing how they got a shortlist put together just 37 minutes after the job was advertised and 6 days before the advertised closing date.

So that is another bunch of cunts knocked off my list.

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 Post subject: Re: Recruitment advice
PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 21:33 
A lot of people just basically get a massive chunk of applications and chuck them in the bin

You're lucky if you're in the small % that is kept.


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 Post subject: Re: Recruitment advice
PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 9:46 
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And it isn't a bad thing for them to get your CV twice from two separate sources!
Also I as a taxpayer, I DEMAND they deal direct instead of paying an agency £000's to forward on your email!

Rubbish. Rubbish. Agencies (at least in the IT field) are essential for filtering out the 99% of absolute bullshit CVs that come through for jobs.

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 Post subject: Re: Recruitment advice
PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 9:49 
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IT subcontract.

CV went to two of the four that advertised the job. The other two were clearly chancing it. (Never heard of the agencies, not based near where the job was.)


Don't dismiss them based on that - I got an amazing IT subcontract from an agency I'd never heard of up north somewhere - for a job based entirely in Wales.


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 Post subject: Re: Recruitment advice
PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:40 
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True... but when one has a search facility that doesn't work, a list of jobs that doesn't include this one and the other has "click here for our jobs" and it is a page of detailed job spec and then a paragraph that says "this is the sort of thing we cover - click to email!" then I think I'll pass...

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 Post subject: Re: Recruitment advice
PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:54 
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Yes, definitely. You know that the 'agency' is just an entrepreneur career bitch who's taken out a loan to start her own recruitment agency, and an orange receptionist.


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 Post subject: Re: Recruitment advice
PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:57 
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You know, I didn't even mention that the contact name was female...


(If that sounds sexist, I don't mean it to be.)

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 Post subject: Re: Recruitment advice
PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 11:10 
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Grim... wrote:
Myfinger wrote:
And it isn't a bad thing for them to get your CV twice from two separate sources!
Also I as a taxpayer, I DEMAND they deal direct instead of paying an agency £000's to forward on your email!

Rubbish. Rubbish. Agencies (at least in the IT field) are essential for filtering out the 99% of absolute bullshit CVs that come through for jobs.


:this: It is very rare to get direct hire for contract..

Plus if the agencies money can be taken from the daily or hourly rate of the contractor..

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