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 Post subject: Daft internetty question.
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 14:35 
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I quite like running my own webserver.
The ISP I use gives a dynamic IP address, so I've been using no-ip to give a continuous blah.no-ip.com address. That works. Then I've been using a UK registrar to forward web visitors to my .co.uk domain to the no-ip.com thing, and thus to my webserver.
That also works.

However, web forwarding is sucky for a few reasons.

How can I rearrange the above so that accesses to the .co.uk go straight to my web server without having to be forwarded? I have access to the namserver configuration and the DNS.. umm.. cname type stuff on the registrar.


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 Post subject: Re: Daft internetty question.
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 14:43 
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CNAME is your best bet. Create a CNAME record on the domain that points to your no-ip.com address.

I think, anyway. I'm a bit sketch on CNAME stuff as I haven't done it in a while. Web-forwarding is indeed a bit rubbish.

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 Post subject: Re: Daft internetty question.
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 14:43 
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 Post subject: Re: Daft internetty question.
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 14:45 
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myp wrote:
CNAME is your best bet. Create a CNAME record on the domain that points to your no-ip.com address.

I think, anyway. I'm a bit sketch on CNAME stuff as I haven't done it in a while. Web-forwarding is indeed a bit rubbish.


You're a CNAME.

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 Post subject: Re: Daft internetty question.
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 14:47 
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OK, ta. I guess if I do that the nameserver has to be no-ip's one as well?

Alternatively I could stop dicking about and buy some proper hosting.

Question: is it normal or indeed possible to have more than one website on your typical host package, or are they always tied to one domain name?

This one for example: http://www.solarhost.co.uk/100mb.php


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 Post subject: Re: Daft internetty question.
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 14:48 
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My mother was a CNAME you insensitive prick.

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 Post subject: Re: Daft internetty question.
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 14:52 
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kalmar wrote:
How can I rearrange the above so that accesses to the .co.uk go straight to my web server without having to be forwarded? I have access to the namserver configuration and the DNS.. umm.. cname type stuff on the registrar.
You publish an A record against the domain with the IP address of your home connection. This will break whenever your home IP changes until you a) change the A record and then b) wait potentially up to 24 hours for any client to stop caching the wrong DNS entry.

This is probably not ideal, therefore.

kalmar wrote:
Question: is it normal or indeed possible to have more than one website on your typical host package, or are they always tied to one domain name?
Depends on the provider. Hosting more domains doesn't take up any more resources, so they don't have any technical reason to mind; however some will stop you doing it as a way of upselling you to higher end accounts.

What are you trying to host? I might be able to help. My new VPS is much more powerful than the old one.


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 Post subject: Re: Daft internetty question.
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 14:56 
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
kalmar wrote:
How can I rearrange the above so that accesses to the .co.uk go straight to my web server without having to be forwarded? I have access to the namserver configuration and the DNS.. umm.. cname type stuff on the registrar.
You publish an A record against the domain with the IP address of your home connection. This will break whenever your home IP changes until you a) change the A record and then b) wait potentially up to 24 hours for any client to stop caching the wrong DNS entry.

This is probably not ideal, therefore.

OK, but I've got a "static" IP address from no-ip - if I do nslookup on that name I've got an IP address. Can't I just bung that in?

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Question: is it normal or indeed possible to have more than one website on your typical host package, or are they always tied to one domain name?
Depends on the provider. Hosting more domains doesn't take up any more resources, so they don't have any technical reason to mind; however some will stop you doing it as a way of upselling you to higher end accounts.

What are you trying to host? I might be able to help. My new VPS is much more powerful than the old one.


It's 2 or 3 very simple websites (I'm using a PHP based CMS which doesn't need a database).


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 Post subject: Re: Daft internetty question.
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 15:01 
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kalmar wrote:
Question: is it normal or indeed possible to have more than one website on your typical host package, or are they always tied to one domain name?

This one for example: http://www.solarhost.co.uk/100mb.php

That is a one domain only hosting package. You'd want something like what I've got for multiple domains (the middle one here).

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 Post subject: Re: Daft internetty question.
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 15:02 
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
kalmar wrote:
How can I rearrange the above so that accesses to the .co.uk go straight to my web server without having to be forwarded? I have access to the namserver configuration and the DNS.. umm.. cname type stuff on the registrar.
You publish an A record against the domain with the IP address of your home connection. This will break whenever your home IP changes until you a) change the A record and then b) wait potentially up to 24 hours for any client to stop caching the wrong DNS entry.

This is probably not ideal, therefore.

If he creates a CNAME record, he doesn't need to worry about all that. You forward the CNAME record to the no-ip.com address (no, you don't have to change your nameservers, Kal).

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 Post subject: Re: Daft internetty question.
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 15:09 
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myp wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
kalmar wrote:
How can I rearrange the above so that accesses to the .co.uk go straight to my web server without having to be forwarded? I have access to the namserver configuration and the DNS.. umm.. cname type stuff on the registrar.
You publish an A record against the domain with the IP address of your home connection. This will break whenever your home IP changes until you a) change the A record and then b) wait potentially up to 24 hours for any client to stop caching the wrong DNS entry.

This is probably not ideal, therefore.

If he creates a CNAME record, he doesn't need to worry about all that. You forward the CNAME record to the no-ip.com address (no, you don't have to change your nameservers, Kal).


OK, I'm giving that a try.

Useful myp is useful.


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 Post subject: Re: Daft internetty question.
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 15:10 
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Let me know if it doesn't work, and I'll have a fiddle around on some of my domains to see if it jogs my memory. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Daft internetty question.
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 15:17 
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It worked!

Except I forgot that I was using port forwarding as well because port 80 isn't the web server. A quick re-arrange and it will be though :)


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 Post subject: Re: Daft internetty question.
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 15:20 
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Great stuff.

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 Post subject: Re: Daft internetty question.
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 15:22 
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kalmar wrote:
It's 2 or 3 very simple websites (I'm using a PHP based CMS which doesn't need a database).
If you ever get stuck, let me know. I can sort that out.


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 Post subject: Re: Daft internetty question.
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 15:27 
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Thankyou as well useful Doctor :p

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 Post subject: Re: Daft internetty question.
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 11:03 
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"woot". I got virtual hosts set up my own computer, all by myself.
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