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Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:29 ]
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markg wrote:
Fuck me, why does it cost so much extra if you want a few gig more memory?
Because people will pay it. Simple as that.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:49 ]
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/06/17 ... t_delayed/

Author:  myp [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:50 ]
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Shokka!

Author:  KovacsC [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:57 ]
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Remember folks the IPhone is not just a phone it is a lifestyle choice.. :)

Author:  myp [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:59 ]
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Kovacs Caprios wrote:
Remember folks the IPhone is not just a phone it is a lifestyle choice.. :)

That's obviously coming from someone who doesn't have one. It's not a lifestyle choice, but it is definitely more than just a phone.

In fact, the phone part of it is probably the bit I use least.

Author:  Malabelm [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 13:05 ]
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myp wrote:
It's not a lifestyle choice, but it is definitely more than just a phone.

In fact, the phone part of it is probably the bit I use least.


:this:

God damn I hate smug Apple cunts. But god damn I love my phone.

Author:  ApplePieOfDestiny [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 13:09 ]
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Malabar Front wrote:
myp wrote:
It's not a lifestyle choice, but it is definitely more than just a phone.

In fact, the phone part of it is probably the bit I use least.


:this:

God damn I hate smug Apple cunts. But god damn I love my phone.

Its a great divider. My wife thinks it makes me an antisocial cunt as I'll fiddle about with my phone a lot more than she does. Her mum feels the same way. However, I'm pretty sure that if it was a Palm Pre or some other phone, it wouldnt get those comments. This coming from people I cooked dinner for recently who then sat around reading facebook for five minutes before actually going to the table to eat it, the cunts.

Author:  Malabelm [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 13:11 ]
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Riles wrote:
Its a great divider. My wife thinks it makes me an antisocial cunt as I'll fiddle about with my phone a lot more than she does. Her mum feels the same way. However, I'm pretty sure that if it was a Palm Pre or some other phone, it wouldnt get those comments. This coming from people I cooked dinner for recently who then sat around reading facebook for five minutes before actually going to the table to eat it, the cunts.


Yeah, I fiddle with my phone far too much. If I'm ever bored, or have some free time and am not near my Xbox, chances are I'm on my phone either browsing the internet or firing up some games.

Speaking of which: I have a fair bit of stuff on my current phone. If I were to get a new one, would I have to re-buy all of that stuff, or can I disassociate my current phone with my iTunes account and re-download it all to my new one?

Author:  myp [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 13:13 ]
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Malabar Front wrote:
Speaking of which: I have a fair bit of stuff on my current phone. If I were to get a new one, would I have to re-buy all of that stuff, or can I disassociate my current phone with my iTunes account and re-download it all to my new one?

I'm pretty sure it's all linked in with your iTunes account on your computer, so you could just transfer everything you've bought across to the new device.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 13:15 ]
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Malabar Front wrote:
Yeah, I fiddle with my phone far too much. If I'm ever bored, or have some free time and am not near my Xbox, chances are I'm on my phone either browsing the internet or firing up some games.
:this:

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Speaking of which: I have a fair bit of stuff on my current phone. If I were to get a new one, would I have to re-buy all of that stuff, or can I disassociate my current phone with my iTunes account and re-download it all to my new one?
Apps follow the same DRM rules as the old iTunes Store content. You can have up to five copies of iTunes on the "authorised" list, and any device (iPod or iPhone) synced with an authorised iTunes can run all your paid-for apps. There's no limit on how many devices can sync with a given iTunes. As DRM schemes go, it's very permissive, and you could run the apps on both phones if you wanted (and kept the old one).

If you manage to fill the five authorised computers -- happened to me last week -- you can reset it and turn them all off, but they only let you do that once a year. Or, if you know you're done with a particularly computer, you can deauthorise it.

Author:  Malabelm [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 13:16 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Apps follow the same DRM rules as the old iTunes Store content. You can have up to five copies of iTunes on the "authorised" list, and any device (iPod or iPhone) synced with an authorised iTunes can run all your paid-for apps. There's no limit on how many devices can sync with a given iTunes. As DRM schemes go, it's very permissive, and you could run the apps on both phones if you wanted (and kept the old one).

If you manage to fill the five authorised computers -- happened to me last week -- you can reset it and turn them all off, but they only let you do that once a year. Or, if you know you're done with a particularly computer, you can deauthorise it.


Ah-ha! Brilliant.

Author:  Zio [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 13:17 ]
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myp wrote:
Malabar Front wrote:
Speaking of which: I have a fair bit of stuff on my current phone. If I were to get a new one, would I have to re-buy all of that stuff, or can I disassociate my current phone with my iTunes account and re-download it all to my new one?

I'm pretty sure it's all linked in with your iTunes account on your computer, so you could just transfer everything you've bought across to the new device.


:this:

Moving from my old unlocked iPhone 2G to my 3G earlier this year was a total doddle. iTunes backs everything up, so the worst part of getting a new iPhone to replace an old one is having to wait an age while all your songs, videos and apps get uploaded to it.

Author:  Malabelm [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 13:21 ]
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Zio wrote:
Moving from my old unlocked iPhone 2G to my 3G earlier this year was a total doddle. iTunes backs everything up, so the worst part of getting a new iPhone to replace an old one is having to wait an age while all your songs, videos and apps get uploaded to it.


Excellent. Though I manage my music and videos manually, so it's only apps, photos and contacts I need to sync.

Author:  KovacsC [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 13:25 ]
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myp wrote:
Kovacs Caprios wrote:
Remember folks the IPhone is not just a phone it is a lifestyle choice.. :)

That's obviously coming from someone who doesn't have one. It's not a lifestyle choice, but it is definitely more than just a phone.

In fact, the phone part of it is probably the bit I use least.


True, but saying that I did not want one.. I think they cost too much and the tariffs are double what I wish to pay.

Why does every one with an iPhone feel the need to show me, and look disappointed when I am not excited about it :)

If you like them, then fair play.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 13:27 ]
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Kovacs Caprios wrote:
Why does every one with an iPhone feel the need to show me
Because they think you are a cool, smart guy.

Quote:
and look disappointed when I am not excited about it :)
Because now they know you aren't.

Author:  The Rev Owen [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 13:31 ]
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I didn't want until I touched one. Then I NEEDED one. And I still haven't got one. Because I'm poor. Sob.

The bit that really sold it to me was changing the date of my Sainsbury's groceries while I was in Idaho Falls airport after missing my flight home. I know other phones can do the web but, ooh, it was spiffy.

Author:  KovacsC [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 13:31 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Kovacs Caprios wrote:
Why does every one with an iPhone feel the need to show me
Because they think you are a cool, smart guy.

Quote:
and look disappointed when I am not excited about it :)
Because now they know you aren't.


:DD

Author:  myp [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 13:35 ]
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Kovacs Caprios wrote:

Why does every one without an iPhone feel the need to tell me they don't like it or thinks it's a waste of money, and look disappointed when I say I don't care as I bloody love it?

If you don't like them, then fair play.

FTFM.

Author:  KovacsC [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 13:38 ]
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myp wrote:
Kovacs Caprios wrote:

Why does every one without an iPhone feel the need to tell me they don't like it or thinks it's a waste of money, and look disappointed when I say I don't care as I bloody love it?

If you don't like them, then fair play.

FTFM.



I have used one, my mate at work has one, i can't denie that the multi touch screen is cool....

Author:  myp [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 14:45 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
If you manage to fill the five authorised computers -- happened to me last week -- you can reset it and turn them all off, but they only let you do that once a year. Or, if you know you're done with a particularly computer, you can deauthorise it.

Hang on, can I get a rewind here? Does this mean that both mine and Ange's iPhones can basically share the same apps from the same iTunes, negating us needing to buy them twice?

Or am I getting this wrong? Are they linked into the iTunes account instead?

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 14:50 ]
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myp wrote:
Hang on, can I get a rewind here? Does this mean that both mine and Ange's iPhones can basically share the same apps from the same iTunes, negating us needing to buy them twice? Or am I getting this wrong? Are they linked into the iTunes account instead?
They're linked to the iTunes Store account, yes, but that wouldn't stop you doing what you want. To share apps you'd have to share music libraries. Although that might be as simple as setting up "Ange's music" and "Myp's music" playlists and telling each phone to sync against one of those.

Author:  myp [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 15:00 ]
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Hmmm, I shall investigate.

Author:  Grim... [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 15:06 ]
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No update yet?

Author:  myp [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 15:08 ]
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Grim... wrote:
No update yet?

10pm.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 15:41 ]
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Turns out the 6pm BST time that is being bandied around on Twitter came from a few worldwide ISPs that texted customers to tell them when it would be live (citation).

That page also has a very neat use of Unix text tools to check if the new version is live yet.

Author:  Zio [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 15:48 ]
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Most of the Mac news sites seem to be aiming at a 6pm BST release (10am in Cupertino).

Author:  myp [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 15:52 ]
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10pm.

Author:  Zio [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 15:54 ]
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I haven't seen this 10pm prediction anywhere else - where you getting it from?

Author:  myp [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 15:56 ]
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Out of my arse. It'll be funny if it's right, though.

Author:  Zardoz [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 16:02 ]
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I just bought a £15 itunes card from Morrisons to buy the OS update and games.

As the checkout lady validated the card she informed me it could take up to 24 hours.

This is not excellent.

Author:  Cras [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 16:03 ]
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Why wouldn't you just buy direct through iTunes?

Author:  Zardoz [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 16:05 ]
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Because the account tied to my iTunes has been spended up by me, and I was in Morrisons and it looked trendy.

Author:  kalmar [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 16:11 ]
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Those cards are for purchasing for grandchildren as birthday gifts when you don't really know what the internet or an iPod is.

Author:  Zardoz [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 16:24 ]
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It has a dancing lady on it and an apple logo.

Author:  DBSnappa [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 17:47 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
myp wrote:
Hang on, can I get a rewind here? Does this mean that both mine and Ange's iPhones can basically share the same apps from the same iTunes, negating us needing to buy them twice? Or am I getting this wrong? Are they linked into the iTunes account instead?
They're linked to the iTunes Store account, yes, but that wouldn't stop you doing what you want. To share apps you'd have to share music libraries. Although that might be as simple as setting up "Ange's music" and "Myp's music" playlists and telling each phone to sync against one of those.

I have an iPhone, my daughter has an iPod Touch and she shares all the apps I have bought through my iTunes store account and can access the App store and download the same apps for free with my password as well.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 18:09 ]
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The update is up.

Author:  ApplePieOfDestiny [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 18:36 ]
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Nice speedy download. Good work.

Author:  andyb [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 18:43 ]
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just found out that mms wont work on 2g iphones, which is a bit shit

Author:  ApplePieOfDestiny [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 18:47 ]
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andyb wrote:
just found out that mms wont work on 2g iphones, which is a bit shit

Doesn't bother me as I'm 3G, but I hadn't noticed that before today either.

Author:  WTB [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 18:47 ]
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OH FUCK OFF. I have to download a new version of iTunes to install the update? Fuck off. Fuck right off. I'd update it more often if it wasn't such a chore, insisting on a full re-install every time instead of just patching like every other fucking piece of fucking software.

edit: I take it back, they seem to have streamlined the update process.

Author:  WTB [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 18:56 ]
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I fucking take it fucking back again. Fucking installing from the "Apple Software Update" tool for 10 fucking minutes now. What the FUCK? WHAT IS IT FUCKING INSTALLING? CRYSIS?

Author:  WTB [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 18:56 ]
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OH THIS TAKES THE FUCKING BISCUIT. A FUCKING REBOOT IS REQUIRED. Fuck you Apple, FUCK YOU.

Author:  WTB [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 19:01 ]
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And why does it ALWAYS break the iTunes shortcut button? Every single time I update it, I have to create a new one. Do they move the .exe every single time? WHY?

Author:  Malabelm [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 19:05 ]
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230MB? Christ!

Author:  WTB [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 19:06 ]
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Finally downloading the update. Slow as fuck.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 19:06 ]
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Malabar Front wrote:
230MB? Christ!
All iPhone updates are the same size; a 256Mb ROM image of the entire internal flash chip (compressed down a little bit).

Author:  Malabelm [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 19:09 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Malabar Front wrote:
230MB? Christ!
All iPhone updates are the same size; a 256Mb ROM image of the entire internal flash chip (compressed down a little bit).


Oh. In which case: Christ!

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 19:10 ]
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Malabar Front wrote:
Oh. In which case: Christ!
Bigger than you thought, or smaller than you thought? I think 256Mb is pretty compact for iPhone OS. There's a lot in there.

Author:  Malabelm [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 19:13 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Malabar Front wrote:
Oh. In which case: Christ!
Bigger than you thought, or smaller than you thought? I think 256Mb is pretty compact for iPhone OS. There's a lot in there.


One of those, yeah. I didn't really think about it, to be fair.

Author:  Malabelm [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 19:36 ]
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Ace. I've installed the firmware but it needs to speak to the iTunes store for some reason which, of course, is now timing out.

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