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Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:51 ]
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Malabar Front wrote:
Well, the new firmware is out at some point today. Does anyone know if you can manually force links to open in new tabs in Safari yet, without resorting to slow hacks like Tabulate?
Yes, that's in OS3.
Author:  Malabelm [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:52 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Yes, that's in OS3.


Excellent. It's about time!
Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:53 ]
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Malabar Front wrote:
Excellent. It's about time!
You're not wrong there! I'm fairly sure you could do it in a really early firmware but the function vanished without explanation. Either than or I dreamt it.
Author:  Malabelm [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:56 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Malabar Front wrote:
Excellent. It's about time!
You're not wrong there! I'm fairly sure you could do it in a really early firmware but the function vanished without explanation. Either than or I dreamt it.


Yeah, I remember you saying. I don't think you were dreaming it.

I've got the 3GS Tour video on my desktop. I'm hesitant to watch it in case it makes me buy one, like the original iPhone Tour did.
Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:00 ]
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Malabar Front wrote:
I've got the 3GS Tour video on my desktop. I'm hesitant to watch it in case it makes me buy one, like the original iPhone Tour did.
The headline differences are: speed, memory, video support, 3MP camera, camera autofocus, voice commands for almost everything in the OS, compass.

I'd be lying if I said I didn't want it.
Author:  Malabelm [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:03 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Malabar Front wrote:
I've got the 3GS Tour video on my desktop. I'm hesitant to watch it in case it makes me buy one, like the original iPhone Tour did.
The headline differences are: speed, memory, video support, 3MP camera, camera autofocus, voice commands for almost everything in the OS, compass.

I'd be lying if I said I didn't want it.


I know, I'm the same. And I'm more than likely going to plump for your plan of 'buy a PAYG phone then sell my 3G with PAYG SIM on ebay.'
Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:05 ]
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Malabar Front wrote:
I know, I'm the same. And I'm more than likely going to plump for your plan of 'buy a PAYG phone then sell my 3G with PAYG SIM on ebay.'
Stop it. If you do that it means it's a good plan and I should do it too.

In other news, I went so far as to bring my Macbook to work today so I could upgrade the phone when the update goes live. Rather than, y'know, wait a few hours until I go home.
Author:  Malabelm [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:07 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Malabar Front wrote:
I know, I'm the same. And I'm more than likely going to plump for your plan of 'buy a PAYG phone then sell my 3G with PAYG SIM on ebay.'
Stop it. If you do that it means it's a good plan and I should do it too.


I'm going to do it. You can't stop me. And I'm going to have my hand in the fire the whole time, even while I'm jumping off that cliff.

Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
In other news, I went so far as to bring my Macbook to work today so I could upgrade the phone when the update goes live. Rather than, y'know, wait a few hours until I go home.


You nerd.
Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:10 ]
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Malabar Front wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
In other news, I went so far as to bring my Macbook to work today so I could upgrade the phone when the update goes live. Rather than, y'know, wait a few hours until I go home.
You nerd.
In my defence, it's really important I send Grim... an MMS as soon as possible to stop him going on about it.
Author:  Malabelm [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:13 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
In my defence, it's really important I send Grim... an MMS as soon as possible to stop him going on about it.


That's a pretty strong defence, in fairness.

Is it wrong that I really want the 3GS's compass? The time I got lost on a mountain brings back memories; it's all very good knowing roughly where I am in relation to towns and roads, but fuck me was it difficult to figure out which direction I was facing, given all I could see was trees and a horrendously overcast sky. And yes, I'm talking about a compass in a phone instead of bothering to take the cheap compass keyring with me. This is the 21st century, damnit!
Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:16 ]
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Malabar Front wrote:
Is it wrong that I really want the 3GS's compass?
No. The iPhone would be fantastic for walking directions with a compass; without it, it's far more fiddly to work out which direction is which. Google Maps's satellite view isn't all that useful for picking out landmarks to get your bearing by.
Author:  Zardoz [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:33 ]
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Malabar Front wrote:
Zen Bound is such a lovely game. Hammers your battery, mind.

Yes it is. Is the iPhone battery shit compared to the iPod Touch? I also heard the iPod Touch has ZOMGer GRFX performance, is that tru?
Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:37 ]
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Zardoz wrote:
Is the iPhone battery shit compared to the iPod Touch?
I think the iPhone battery has more capacity but obviously it's doing a bunch more than the Touch is. Overally I wouldn't be surprised if the battery life is less.

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I also heard the iPod Touch has ZOMGer GRFX performance, is that tru?
Yeah, the 2nd Gen iPod Touch has a bit more oomph in the graphics chip. It seems the 3G S is faster again. This will present interesting problems/opportunities for software devs.
Author:  Malabelm [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:37 ]
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Zardoz wrote:
Malabar Front wrote:
Zen Bound is such a lovely game. Hammers your battery, mind.

Yes it is. Is the iPhone battery shit compared to the iPod Touch? I also heard the iPod Touch has ZOMGer GRFX performance, is that tru?


I've no idea, to any of that. The iPhone battery isn't very good, but I absolutely hammer it with games and wi-fi. It charges obscenely quickly, though.
Author:  Zardoz [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:41 ]
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So I'm better than you all now until you get the new iPhone.

Thanks for clearing that up.
Author:  Malabelm [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:44 ]
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Zardoz wrote:
So I'm better than you all now until you get the new iPhone.

Thanks for clearing that up.


But we can use the internet without wi-fi ;)
Author:  Zardoz [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:45 ]
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For £35 quid a month.
Author:  Malabelm [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:48 ]
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Zardoz wrote:
For £35 quid a month.


I was paying that anyway on a shit phone.
Author:  Grim... [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:50 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Malabar Front wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
In other news, I went so far as to bring my Macbook to work today so I could upgrade the phone when the update goes live. Rather than, y'know, wait a few hours until I go home.
You nerd.
In my defence, it's really important I send Grim... an MMS as soon as possible to stop him going on about it.

It better be of a fit chick.
Author:  Malabelm [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:51 ]
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Grim... wrote:
It better be of a fit chick.


It'll be of an obscure area of Gaywood that makes you think it's a hot chick until he sends you the full-size version.
Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:53 ]
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Malabar Front wrote:
Grim... wrote:
It better be of a fit chick.
It'll be of an obscure area of Gaywood that makes you think it's a hot chick until he sends you the full-size version.
Now that I read this, it makes perfect sense.
Author:  Malabelm [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:58 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Malabar Front wrote:
Grim... wrote:
It better be of a fit chick.
It'll be of an obscure area of Gaywood that makes you think it's a hot chick until he sends you the full-size version.
Now that I read this, it makes perfect sense.


If you make the full-size one show a blatantly shaved patch of skin, you get bonus points.
Author:  Grim... [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:07 ]
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Yay arm-butt!
Here's mine:

[edit]Removed possibly NSFW inline image
[edit]Oh. Er...
ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view!
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Author:  Cras [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:13 ]
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"Not downloaded yet".

Shocker.
Author:  Malabelm [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:15 ]
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Thanks, Grim...!
Author:  myp [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 11:01 ]
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OS 3.0 is 10pm tonight, apparently. You pulling a late one at work tonight, Doc?
Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 11:05 ]
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myp wrote:
OS 3.0 is 10pm tonight, apparently. You pulling a late one at work tonight, Doc?
Buzz on Twitter is all sorts of times -- 1pm, 3pm, 6pm. I don't think anyone knows. I brought the Macbook anyway because I wanted to show someone some stuff on it.
Author:  Cras [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 11:06 ]
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myp wrote:
OS 3.0 is 10pm tonight, apparently. You pulling a late one at work tonight, Doc?


I don't think it matters whether he's at work or not, he'll still be 'pulling a late one' when 3.0 is released.
Author:  DBSnappa [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 11:07 ]
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myp wrote:
OS 3.0 is 10pm tonight, apparently. You pulling a late one at work tonight, Doc?

:DD
Author:  Zardoz [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 11:07 ]
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OT: Do you go with Bootcamp or Parallels or Other for your MacBook multi OSness?
Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 11:08 ]
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Zardoz wrote:
OT: Do you go with Bootcamp or Parallels or Other for your MacBook multi OSness?
I have both Bootcamp and Parallels on mine, pointing at the same partition. Parallels doesn't like Windows 7 though, not even a little bit. I might end up ditching BootCamp (I am getting a new PC soon) and building a small WinXP image for Parallels.
Author:  Grim... [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 11:23 ]
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Uh-ohs!
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/06/17/iphone_3/
Author:  Malabelm [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 11:24 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Uh-ohs!
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/06/17/iphone_3/


Noooo!
Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 11:26 ]
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Apple.com lists "June 17" still. The Reg in "reporting rumour as FACT" shocker!
Author:  Zio [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 11:27 ]
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Fuckshitbollocks!
Author:  Grim... [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 11:28 ]
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Be calm, rabid fanboys. You'll all be picture messaging by tomorrow at the latest ;)
Author:  Zio [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 11:32 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Be calm, rabid fanboys. You'll all be picture messaging by tomorrow at the latest ;)


Well, I already can on my iPhone. But still! Me wan' me copynpaste!
Author:  Zardoz [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 11:33 ]
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I want my bluetooth decrippled!
Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:02 ]
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Hah. People online are claiming that they have a direct download for it from apple's site, but look at the URL:

http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iPhone/061-6582.20090617.LlI87/iPhone2,1_3.0_7A341_Restore.ipsw

I wonder what nasties are in there. 7A341 is the build distributed by Apple at WWDC last week, the so-called "Gold Master"[1] version. Apart from that telltale domain name, this is the same sort of format Apple uses for their content servers -- these are the URLs that iTunes downloads firmware from.

[1] I don't see how any digitally distributed software can really be said to "go gold".
Author:  Zio [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:05 ]
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That news story on El Reg about the iPhone OS 3.0 delay has mysteriously vanished from their front page BTW chaps.
Author:  Zardoz [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:05 ]
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Thanks for the link doc. Installing now...
Author:  myp [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:09 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
[1] I don't see how any digitally distributed software can really be said to "go gold".

Because 'gold' is another term for production or live release. It doesn't have to be pressed onto a disc and stuck in a box to use this term.

Citation.
Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:10 ]
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Seems I'm wrong about that URL being dodgy, and edgesuite.net is part of the Akamai content caching network.

Zardoz, I hope you're kidding, that's an iPhone firmware file, not an iPod Touch one.
Author:  GazChap [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:10 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iPhone/061-6582.20090617.LlI87/iPhone2,1_3.0_7A341_Restore.ipsw

If genuine, that's firmware for the iPhone 3GS, not the iPhone 3G. If it was for the 3G, the URL would say iPhone1,2_3.0_7A341_Restore.ipsw instead of iPhone2,1_3.0...
Author:  andyb [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:10 ]
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I've got a first gen 8gb iphone, unlocked to allow an o2 PAYG sim.

Will the new software allow an o2 PAYG sim, without the need to unlock?
Author:  kalmar [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:17 ]
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andyb wrote:
I've got a first gen 8gb iphone, unlocked to allow an o2 PAYG sim.

Will the new software allow an o2 PAYG sim, without the need to unlock?


I seriously doubt it..


How much is the 3GS meant to cost, anyone know?
Author:  Zardoz [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:24 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Seems I'm wrong about that URL being dodgy, and edgesuite.net is part of the Akamai content caching network.

Zardoz, I hope you're kidding, that's an iPhone firmware file, not an iPod Touch one.

Awesome, I'll be able to make calls now too!
Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:27 ]
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kalmar wrote:
andyb wrote:
I've got a first gen 8gb iphone, unlocked to allow an o2 PAYG sim. Will the new software allow an o2 PAYG sim, without the need to unlock?
I seriously doubt it..
I'm 99% sure this works. As sure as I can be without having done it myself. The locked 3G phones (which is what andyb would have after flashing) will take any O2 SIM card.

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How much is the 3GS meant to cost, anyone know?
The prices are on O2's site, have been for a week now. Contract and PAYG.
Author:  Grim... [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:28 ]
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Zardoz wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Seems I'm wrong about that URL being dodgy, and edgesuite.net is part of the Akamai content caching network.
Zardoz, I hope you're kidding, that's an iPhone firmware file, not an iPod Touch one.

Awesome, I'll be able to make calls now too!

And record video!
Author:  markg [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:29 ]
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Fuck me, why does it cost so much extra if you want a few gig more memory?
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