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I think generally the pc version is much the same as the 360. Although the pc version does have the ability to fix game state. (and produce monstrosities)

as said, it's luck, but there is a quest line that interacts with he main question and can cause problems in certain circumstances.

"Is Myps the lovechild of John Virgo and Hervé Villechaize?"

The only bugs I've found were humorous ones that didn't really affect the game, apart from when I fast-travelled on a horse and it spawned 10 feet above me then fell on my head making me dead. There will be times you have to interact with someone as part of a side quest and it won't let you because of something in a "higher" quest line eg. it wouldn't let me turn in a side quest to the Jarl of Whiterun until I'd as part of the main quest, and it wouldn't let me return the helm of Winterhold to the Jarl of that there place because he had been displaced fromm there as part of the Civil War quest line. In each case once I'd finished the more important thing the more minor thing was allowed by the game to be done by me therein (the game). So yeah, the bugs don't break the game in my experience.

PS maxed!

50 hours in on the 360 version no issues yet except one loading lock up when trying to go through a door.

Truly excellent game so much to do

Having the follower helps them be a loot mule however. I have upgraded Lydia's armour to all glass & given her plenty of healing potions to take care of herself.

I've got one uncompeletable quest after 170 odd hours. I have faith they'll fix that though as it's been widely whinged about on the official forums by me.

I never go into a location unless I have a quest, I'm worried I will complete a quest before getting it given.

You do realise that's not an issue, right? Unless of course you just feel it's "tidier" to do things as intended.. but I had one or two moments where someone has said to me "I need you to fight your way through the deepest darkest dungeon of utmost terror, facing perils of unimaginable unimaginableness, to retrieve an ancient artifact of unfathomable power and value..." at which point I rummage in my Tinker's Rucksack and and say "what, this old thing?" and the quest gets completed with a big tick and joy for all

Oh that's a relief to know, I was worried about breaking any quest lines.

They are the best ones!

So, up to level 8 on Skyrim. After about ten hours. Hitting people with a hammer or axe is fun. I like picking flowers, too. Not being able to make potions on the fly is a bit irritating, as is chopping wood. Smithing is OK. Not tried magic yet. Might switch to one handed sword with a shield rather than two handed stuff. Straying off the path seems to punish you somewhat at this stage. It only locked up once when I tried to fast travel.

Up to level 22 now. Still thoroughly enjoying this. Got so many quests uncompleted. Keep walking past dungeons and getting scared about going in there unless I have to.

I always go sword & shield & depending on the enemy sometimes switch my shield to fire magic or healing if needed. I'm currently Level 35 and 50 hours in although that was due to the recent holidays. Now back at work it's going to slow down but enjoying writing my skyrim diary has I play

http://gospvg.blogspot.com/search/label/Skyrim%20Diary

I need to fill up some more soul gems & learn about arcane stuff.

I will buy this once the price drops and a couple of patches get released for it.

I need to get back into this. However it is one of those type of games that I find really difficult to get back into if I've not played for a while.

That is why you will never be the Champion of Cyrodiil.

Depends where you leave the game, I always start the game with the intention to complete one quest then go back to the house in whiterun, save & switch off for another day.

I am not keen on Fallout 3 and I have not played Oblivion yet.

Dark Souls still not played...

But I do like sword and magic games.

Play Dark Souls!

I have a big no play list and even bigger to finish list...

But Skyrim is quite cheap at the moment

Depends what you don't like about Fallout 3. If you don't like the sci-fi setting then maybe. If you don't like the entire structure and mechanics of the game then don't touch Skyrim (or indeed any other Bethesda RPG game presumably).

Fallout 3 = Oblivion with guns
Skyrim = Fallout 3 with swords

HTH

Not sure why I did not like it.. Perhaps I will try it again..

Is Oblivion worth getting or just get Skyrim?

Oblivion is very good, but the graphics look a bit ropey these days. I haven't played Skyrim yet, but I don't believe missing Oblivion out would have a massively detrimental effect.

Get Skyrim

Yeah Skyrim. You don't really miss that much and most things get explained again anyway. Not that you'll learn anything as you'll probably just skip through every chat and just focus on your next quest notes.

Controls and fighting are a bit better and you don't get so much of the tedious Oblivion samey gates. In Skyrim you just get Dragon instead which are far more enjoyable and upbeat to play with.

Any news anywhere yet on when they're fixing this?

So am I the only person who really enjoyed the Oblivion Gate bits in Oblivion then?

The quest items in the inventory that you can't get rid of bug is beginning to pee me off.

I think I did the first few times but after a while it became a bit of a pain. I think however I focused on trying to close them instead of play the main quest though, which might have been my down fall.

Also I don't think I'd had any bugs in Skyrim yet. Must have a good 30 hours or so under by belt.

The Oblivion gates were good for one thing: sigil stones.

today I was able to summon a wolf/tiger thing which bites people as I hit them with an axe and woman shoots arrows at them. Tomorrow is going to be more of the same, but I'll set them on fire, too. I am now level 8 Orc with heavy armour and trying to play it as lawful evil.

50 hours in & no bugs, I'm still playing by my rule of not visiting any location unless it's for a quest. The majority of quests are given either by a local in a town or read from a book. So I just spend time & talk to every individual I come across when visiting a new town.

I'm starting to think GY must have bought Fallout:NV by mistake, since he's the only person I've seen demanding they patch this broken mess...

Is Fallout:NV still really broken? Having given up on Skyrim entirely I'm pegging my hopes on F:NV to restore my faith in Bethesda (and my own abilities) some point in the future so that'll be disappointing if it's still a buggy mess.

I had next to no issues with New Vegas either. The only bug I encountered was the 'Can't enter Vegas unless you're wearing the cowboy hat' one - which I avoided by not doing that small quest.

Why have you given up on Skyrim?

I stopped playing F:NV about 3 quests from the end of the main quest-line, it was so buggy. It would freeze on loading going into new areas probably 30% of the time, which was just too much for me to handle. The number of times the controller nearly went through the screen and the xbox out of the window....I want to go back to it though because I really enjoyed it (when it wasn't crashing).

If you don't play Oblivion you will never be the Champion of Cyrodiil.

The combat mostly (see my earlier whining in this thread for reference), plus the general inconsistency of the experience. What really killed it though was spending about two days beginning various quests or randomly discovered dungeons and spending ages crawling through them only to get to near the end and realising I wasn't skilled or levelled up enough to finish them and so having to walk away and leave them uncompleted. I know that's just a consequence of the open world nature of the game but it's utterly demoralising if you get a string of them as I did and the thought of spending real actual weeks of my life playing that lottery (and mostly losing it seems!) while unfinished quests contined to pile up tipped me over the edge.

Maybe I'd gone too far off-piste too early and should've just followed the main quest line for a while? Maybe I hadn't balanced my characters skills very well? Maybe I was just fucking doing it wrong? Maybe a combination of all these things and more? Who knows. All I know is that my experience of the game was 50% joy and 50% miserable fucking grind and that ratio wasn't good enough for me in the end.



Bugger. Well, at least I know what to expect now.

Good job I'm the Champion of Cyrodiil already, then.

On the XBox? I'd say it still has issues. People falling through the floor or getting stuck in the ceiling, crashes when changing areas and something to do wth quests not updating correctly.

If you don't like bugs, don't play Bethesda RPGs.

Don't expect this, necessarily. I haven't played it in long months so it mightn't be as bad now if they've patched it. I also don't think this was a universal issue, not everyone will have experienced it, I'm sure.

I take you point on Skyrim, it's a shame you feel that way, perhaps you just need some time apart...I did have a similar experience recently though, when I went to kill the dragon at Autumnwatch Tower, he kept fucking off into the mountains above to kill stuff as I was being a sneaky, sneaky archer....every living thing in this game has such a short attention span...So I followed him up the hill and stumbled across a cairn and loads of skeletons and a few Draugr, all of which where pretty easily killed, along with a Draugr Overlord who was a little more of a challenge but I was perched up a slope he couldn't run up So, all happy with myself for discovering these new locations and killing stuff, I went to kill the dragon....I dispatched of him too and as soon as I did, another Overlord appeared and killed me in 2 swipes of his axe. Back down the mountain to try again. This happened twice, the second time, I at least had time to figure out where he came from so I was ready for him next time Third time I decided I was just going to hide from him for a bit and then jump off the other side of the mountain, as I just don't have the skills required to tackle some stuff close quarters.

Worst thing was, the fucking dragon didn't count as the Autumnwatch Tower one, so I had to go back down the mountain and kill another one. Meh. More dragon souls for me, I guess.

I see it as having a girlfriend who eats chips on a beach. It's unpleasant, but it isn't a deal breaker.

Aye, I haven't totally ruled out picking it up again when it's cheap and just running the main quest for a while; I really enjoyed some parts of it so I know it's capable of being a very good game at times. As hard as it is to admit it, I suspect I personally prefer a slightly more structured experience so there's maybe just an incompatibility in general here between me and Skyrim. Either way, I'm sure most folks will be glad not to have to read any more of my whining about it in this thread so I'll just shut up now.

I found certain barrows hard but never felt like I had to quit them, just change my approach. Carry a variety of weapons, with different enchantments, make sure to have different spells available... sometimes a shield is essential, most times a healing spell is better... give yourself all the flexibility to fight in different ways. And don't be afraid to run back the way you came to buy time for shouts/stats to recharge, and even slam a door behind you and whimper between attacks as I did in one of the Mage Guild barrow quests. Basically, don't just rely on the same approach each time and think "that didnt work so I can't do it", play around a bit. Try scrolls you don't really know what they do, summon stuff to distract them is nothing else... man up basically

Agreed in an early quest I had to defeat a master vampire who was making mince meat out of me. I retreated, learnt some fire spells & got a fire sword then went back and kicked his arse !!

'Skyrim' sounds rather obscene to me; something to do with air travel and The Mile High Club and such.




I'll fetch my coat.

OI! Who killed my dragon then left it upside down in the bloody harbour??

on a related buggy note,

Yeah, I ended up having a quest where I was escorted by a dog to some shrine, and then had to go somewhere with the dog. So I mounted my horse, and the dog seemed to try that as well, and in the process ended up flinging himself 200 foot up into the air. When he eventually returned to me, he could no longer decide which direction was up.