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| Author: | DBSnappa [ Mon Nov 16, 2009 13:25 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 2009 |
Mr Dave wrote: Rosberg/heidfeld is not exactly the most fearsome lineup I've ever seen, to put it lightly. Ach, Rosberg is very good I think - it'll certainly be interesting to see him in potentially a decent car. Heidfeld is someone I don't know about really - I couldn't even name the team he raced for last season.
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| Author: | Mr Dave [ Mon Nov 16, 2009 13:25 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 2009 |
What aspect would be illegal? |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Mon Nov 16, 2009 13:26 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 2009 |
Mr Dave wrote: What aspect would be illegal? "I want these two because they are German". Premiership football wasn't allowed to impose a "x% of players must be English" rule. So if Button feels he is being forced out, he could perhaps take them to court. That would be interesting, to say the least. After all, it's easily argued that he's better suited for the job 
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| Author: | Mr Dave [ Mon Nov 16, 2009 13:28 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 2009 |
DBSnappa wrote: Mr Dave wrote: Rosberg/heidfeld is not exactly the most fearsome lineup I've ever seen, to put it lightly. Ach, Rosberg is very good I think - it'll certainly be interesting to see him in potentially a decent car. Heidfeld is someone I don't know about really - I couldn't even name the team he raced for last season.BMW. Rosberg, I felt, should've been doing alot more at the beginning of the season when the williams was certainly one of the best cars. Hard to judge him against Nakajima, though. |
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| Author: | DBSnappa [ Mon Nov 16, 2009 13:28 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 2009 |
Grim... wrote: DBSnappa wrote: utton is allegedly joining McLaren as Mercedes want an all German line-up at Brawn Isn't that illegal under EU law? It is for football. |
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| Author: | DBSnappa [ Mon Nov 16, 2009 13:30 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 2009 |
Grim... wrote: Mr Dave wrote: What aspect would be illegal? "I want these two because they are German". Premiership football wasn't allowed to impose a "x% of players must be English" rule. So if Button feels he is being forced out, he could perhaps take them to court. That would be interesting, to say the least. After all, it's easily argued that he's better suited for the job That's assuming he has a contract in place already and I suspect he probably doesn't. |
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| Author: | Mr Dave [ Mon Nov 16, 2009 13:31 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 2009 |
Grim... wrote: Mr Dave wrote: What aspect would be illegal? "I want these two because they are German". Premiership football wasn't allowed to impose a "x% of players must be English" rule. So if Button feels he is being forced out, he could perhaps take them to court. That would be interesting, to say the least. After all, it's easily argued that he's better suited for the job There's a difference between a rule and a desire. Button has, by all accounts, priced himself out of the running at Brawn. There's been little to stop two drivers of the same nationality from driving in the same team as before. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Mon Nov 16, 2009 13:34 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 2009 |
Sure, that's fine. But Mercedes saying "we only want German drivers" sounds all manner of wrong to me. What if they said "We only want a German pit crew", and then "only German strategists". |
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| Author: | Mr Dave [ Mon Nov 16, 2009 13:38 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 2009 |
Super aguri said "We want only japanese drivers" Look how well that worked out USF1 started with the desire to only run US personnel. That failed. Both Renault and Ligier have at times wanted only french. Didn't work. Ferrari are in the process of re-italianising the team. It is yet to be seen how well that'll work, but the last couple of seasons have tended to the thought that it's not exactly working. |
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| Author: | ApplePieOfDestiny [ Mon Nov 16, 2009 14:46 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 2009 |
I don't think Button is being forced out though, more he isn't being actively encouraged to stay. Also, I have a feeling that F1 drivers aren't employees (unlike the pit crew who would be). So any EU employment legislation wouldn't apply to them. Picking drivers based on Nationality is nothing new though, I think Williams always used to try and keep one Brit on the books. Could be interesting if we went to effectively national teams though, which would render the struggling A1GP even more redundant. |
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| Author: | DBSnappa [ Mon Nov 16, 2009 15:33 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 2009 |
Riles wrote: I don't think Button is being forced out though, more he isn't being actively encouraged to stay. As I suspected, he's out of contract, so he isn't being forced anywhere other than into any seat he can get. McLaren would be an interesting place as he's a very different driver (and I suspect not as good all round) as Hamilton. However, the sponsorship opps for a British team with two British champions in it will be pretty good I suspect. |
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| Author: | Mr Dave [ Mon Nov 16, 2009 15:39 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 2009 |
It was interesting what Button said: He'd only be interested in McLaren if he could get the car development to suit him (presumably as he needs a quite particular car). I'll see if I can find the quote. Given the amount of work that's already been done... |
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| Author: | GazChap [ Mon Nov 16, 2009 15:46 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 2009 |
Grim... wrote: Sure, that's fine. But Mercedes saying "we only want German drivers" sounds all manner of wrong to me. What if they said "We only want a German pit crew", and then "only German strategists". We'd send in the British Army and show them a thing or two, that's fucking what 
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| Author: | myp [ Mon Nov 16, 2009 15:48 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 2009 |
Who do you think you are kidding, Mr Daimler? |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Mon Nov 16, 2009 15:54 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 2009 |
GazChap wrote: Grim... wrote: Sure, that's fine. But Mercedes saying "we only want German drivers" sounds all manner of wrong to me. What if they said "We only want a German pit crew", and then "only German strategists". We'd send in the British Army and show them a thing or two, that's fucking what Hang on - under EU law shouldn't they have to allow a certain number of Germans? OH NOES! |
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| Author: | DBSnappa [ Mon Nov 16, 2009 17:10 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 2009 |
Mr Dave wrote: It was interesting what Button said: He'd only be interested in McLaren if he could get the car development to suit him (presumably as he needs a quite particular car). I'll see if I can find the quote. Given the amount of work that's already been done... Yes, otherwise he'll get to made to look really shit by Hamilton which will kill his career as quickly as it was resurrected last year. |
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| Author: | GovernmentYard [ Mon Nov 16, 2009 20:03 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 2009 |
DBSnappa wrote: the sponsorship opps for a British team with two British champions in it will be pretty good I suspect. A Burberry check McLaren sponsored by Pot Noodle, White Ace cider and McDonald's driven by kids called Jenson and Lewis. Yeah, works for me. |
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| Author: | DBSnappa [ Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:32 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 2009 |
Button has signed with McLaren |
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| Author: | DBSnappa [ Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:35 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 2009 |
And Raikkonen has gone rallying as he couldn't get McLaren to agree to his wage demands. Still, the €20m settlement Ferrari are allegedly paying him not to drive next year should keep him in meatballs and pickled fish. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Wed Nov 18, 2009 13:55 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 2009 |
Mr Grim... (snr) was at Valencia this weekend, where Ferrari were showing off Alonso. They put him and Massa in the back of a new California and Luca di Montezemolo (Ferrari president) drove them around the track, waving at everybody. Luca was too busy waving and drove into a gravel trap. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Wed Nov 18, 2009 13:57 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 2009 |
Aha: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4gSRCW7-RM |
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| Author: | BikNorton [ Wed Nov 18, 2009 13:58 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 2009 |
Yes. Yes he did. Edit: Damn you 5! Edit: Also,  . The knob.
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| Author: | DBSnappa [ Wed Nov 18, 2009 14:10 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 2009 |
Grim... wrote: I saw this yesterday or the day before - apparently he claimed he was trying to get closer to the fans, but it's still a stupid thing to think you can drive a supercar across a gravel trap. |
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| Author: | myp [ Wed Nov 18, 2009 14:11 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 2009 |
F1 2009 is out for the Wii soon. Anyone getting this or are you waiting until next year for the 360/PS3 version? |
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| Author: | DBSnappa [ Wed Nov 18, 2009 14:18 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 2009 |
myp wrote: F1 2009 is out for the Wii soon. Anyone getting this or are you waiting until next year for the 360/PS3 version? Considering how boring most of the F1 games of the last few years have been - the PS3 version was crap - and the lack of steering wheel support that I know of for the Wii means I almost certainly won't be buying this. Might grab it off goozex in the new year for a laugh, but I'll sit tight and wait for Codemasters 360 version to land next year. It has, it must be said, received quite favourable reviews though.
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| Author: | markg [ Wed Nov 18, 2009 14:49 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 2009 |
I don't have a Wii or for that matter a desire to play another Codemasters arcade racer but this time with F1-shaped cars. |
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| Author: | myp [ Wed Nov 18, 2009 16:39 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 2009 |
The firm who were putting on the GP at Donington have gone into administration. |
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| Author: | Mr Dave [ Wed Nov 18, 2009 17:01 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 2009 |
And they've managed to leave the circuit in an unusable state, as work had already begun. |
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| Author: | DBSnappa [ Fri Nov 20, 2009 18:04 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 2009 |
Rumour mill churn. Apparently Mercedes are talking to Schumi. |
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| Author: | DavPaz [ Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:24 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 2009 |
British Grand Prix on the same day as the world cup final? 
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| Author: | myp [ Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:26 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 2009 |
We won't be in it, so why does it matter? |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:27 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 2009 |
Silverstone is confirmed for the next 17 years, in case you didn't hear. |
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| Author: | DavPaz [ Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:28 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 2009 |
Reduced audience. Less money. Annoyed DavPaz. Someone's going to be in the WC final. And I know which one I'd rather be watching. |
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| Author: | DBSnappa [ Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:40 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 2009 |
DavPaz wrote: Reduced audience. Less money. Annoyed DavPaz. Someone's going to be in the WC final. And I know which one I'd rather be watching. And in all likelihood it'll be screened much later than 1pm GMT time I would have thought. |
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| Author: | DavPaz [ Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:44 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 2009 |
You all need to stop being calm and rational. Do you want me to start punning again? Do ya? |
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| Author: | ApplePieOfDestiny [ Tue Dec 08, 2009 14:14 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 2009 |
The new Silverstone track layout for Moto GP looks interesting, completely getting rid of Abbey. Apparently they are applying to also use it for Formula One. I'm guessing this must be virtually approved, as the new hairpin massively increases the potential spectator space by going infield behind the paddock, which is surely the only way they could get extra income to pay Bernies price. |
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| Author: | chinnyhill10 [ Tue Dec 08, 2009 21:11 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 2009 |
DavPaz wrote: British Grand Prix on the same day as the world cup final? Grand Prix's have happened on the same day as the World Cup Final before. Move along, nothing to see here. 
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| Author: | throughsilver [ Wed Dec 09, 2009 10:09 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 2009 |
mypsletoe wrote: We won't be in it, so why does it matter? I've never been in a Grand Prix, but it's not stopped me watching them before. |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Wed Dec 09, 2009 10:11 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 2009 |
Riles wrote: The new Silverstone track layout for Moto GP looks interesting, completely getting rid of Abbey. Apparently they are applying to also use it for Formula One. I'm guessing this must be virtually approved, as the new hairpin massively increases the potential spectator space by going infield behind the paddock, which is surely the only way they could get extra income to pay Bernies price. Linky? |
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| Author: | itsallwater [ Wed Dec 09, 2009 11:52 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 2009 |
I find Silverstone soo boring though.... mostly I find it boring to watch it's not so bad to race on. |
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| Author: | myp [ Wed Dec 09, 2009 19:17 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 2009 |
itsallwater wrote: I find Silverstone soo boring though.... mostly I find it boring to watch it's not so bad to race on. You're right. Something like the Valencia street circuit is much better. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Thu Dec 10, 2009 22:11 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 2009 |
Possible changes to the scoring. Quote: Under the new system, the race winner would get 25 points with 20 for second and 15 for third. The remaining points would be allocated 10-8-6-5-3-2-1.
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| Author: | Mr Dave [ Thu Dec 10, 2009 22:54 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 2009 |
Proportionally, it does little but allow 9th and 10th to score. 2nd is still 80% of the points of 1st. 3rd is still 60% of the points of 1st. Also, why 6-5-3-2-1 rather than 6-4-3-2-1? That makes no sense at all. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:51 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 2009 |
Schumey is back in the game, folks. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsp ... 427552.stm |
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| Author: | DavPaz [ Wed Dec 23, 2009 11:16 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 2009 |
Grim... wrote: Excellent. Schumie in a less than perfect car is excellent fun edit: Excellent |
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| Author: | romanista [ Thu Dec 24, 2009 12:29 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 2009 |
why does every sport game is fifa/cricket/whatever year+1 and f1 always year that has just been finished.. why no f1 2010? |
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| Author: | BikNorton [ Thu Dec 24, 2009 12:32 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 2009 |
DavPaz wrote: Excellent. Schumie in a less than perfect car is excellent fun Unless Mercedes have really started dicking about, he'll be in a Brawn that isn't a hatchet job to make the deadline, so it should be at least as perfect as any other on the grid.
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| Author: | Mr Dave [ Thu Dec 24, 2009 12:34 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 2009 |
Because it's much easier to predict last season than the next one. Rules changes for next year, and similar uncertainties (Not knowing what the cars are like until January, etc) make a 2010 game hard to do. Madden 10, for instance, has a small amount of roster uncertainty, but that's about it. |
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| Author: | BikNorton [ Thu Dec 24, 2009 12:36 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 2009 |
Aren't the rules for 2010 essentially unchanged, apart from no refuelling? Sure, there'll've been lots of development from all sides, but I'd be surprised if Brawn came out uncompetitive. We'll just have to wait and see. |
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| Author: | Mr Dave [ Thu Dec 24, 2009 12:42 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 2009 |
That was mainly in reply to Romanista, on why F1 tends to release games midway through/at the end of a season. |
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