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I thought PS2s had memory cards, not HDDs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_2_HDD#Hard_disk_drive

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Cue about ten people telling me that I'm wrong about the hard drives.
If they do, they'd be wrong. This (PDF) very detailed research paper from Google suggests there is very little rhyme or reason to hard disk failures.


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I thought PS2s had memory cards, not HDDs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_2_HDD#Hard_disk_drive

Coo.


40GB for the PS2 in 2001 and still my PS3 only has a pissy little 40GB drive. Bah! :(


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I thought PS2s had memory cards, not HDDs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_2_HDD#Hard_disk_drive

Coo.


40GB for the PS2 in 2001 and still my PS3 only has a pissy little 40GB drive. Bah! :(


It was horridly expensive tho man. IIRC I paid about $90 for it with FF. And I didn't even want it for that.. I used a program called Hdloader which basically booted the PS2 and allowed it to read ISOS off the hard drive. Great when I didn't know anyone who chipped them and didn't want to run the risk of voiding warranty. Best of all it ran snes9x for the PS2 and the megadrive emu :)

I would imagine that the ps3 uses a laptop like drive (2.5") which are more money than their 3.5" counter parts. Also with similar spec (7200 RPM let's say instead of a laptops normally pitiful 5200) they are far more expensive.

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JohnCoffey wrote:
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I thought PS2s had memory cards, not HDDs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_2_HDD#Hard_disk_drive

Coo.


40GB for the PS2 in 2001 and still my PS3 only has a pissy little 40GB drive. Bah! :(


It was horridly expensive tho man. IIRC I paid about $90 for it with FF. And I didn't even want it for that.. I used a program called Hdloader which basically booted the PS2 and allowed it to read ISOS off the hard drive. Great when I didn't know anyone who chipped them and didn't want to run the risk of voiding warranty. Best of all it ran snes9x for the PS2 and the megadrive emu :)

I would imagine that the ps3 uses a laptop like drive (2.5") which are more money than their 3.5" counter parts. Also with similar spec (7200 RPM let's say instead of a laptops normally pitiful 5200) they are far more expensive.


PS3 uses nano arrays of carbon crystals activating in a solid state matrix to store data. So, technically, it isn't an HDD in the true sense, more of a data storage solutinon.

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MaliA wrote:
JohnCoffey wrote:
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I thought PS2s had memory cards, not HDDs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_2_HDD#Hard_disk_drive

Coo.


40GB for the PS2 in 2001 and still my PS3 only has a pissy little 40GB drive. Bah! :(


It was horridly expensive tho man. IIRC I paid about $90 for it with FF. And I didn't even want it for that.. I used a program called Hdloader which basically booted the PS2 and allowed it to read ISOS off the hard drive. Great when I didn't know anyone who chipped them and didn't want to run the risk of voiding warranty. Best of all it ran snes9x for the PS2 and the megadrive emu :)

I would imagine that the ps3 uses a laptop like drive (2.5") which are more money than their 3.5" counter parts. Also with similar spec (7200 RPM let's say instead of a laptops normally pitiful 5200) they are far more expensive.


PS3 uses nano arrays of carbon crystals activating in a solid state matrix to store data.


why should i believe you? That's sounds the most random thing ever. Yet, some part of me, accepts that it might be true.


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Who makes the HDDs in xbox 360s? They're pretty good, right?

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Who makes the HDDs in xbox 360s? They're pretty good, right?

Compared to the rest of the shonky hardware, yes. ;)

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So, buying a 360 is probably the best course of action then.

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PS3 uses nano arrays of carbon crystals activating in a solid state matrix to store data. So, technically, it isn't an HDD in the true sense, more of a data storage solutinon.


Alas, I've filled my crystals.


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I would imagine that the ps3 uses a laptop like drive (2.5") which are more money than their 3.5" counter parts.
Yes, PS3s use standard 9.5mm height 2.5" disks. They're pretty cheap these days though -- £53 inc VAT for 320Gb. Time was laptop disks cost five times as much as a desktop of equivalent spec; these days, it's more like twice as much, if not a little less.

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Careful. 2.5" disks have smaller platters, so a 5200rpm spindle speed gives higher mean transfer rates than the same spindle speed on a 3.5" disk. In addition, slower spindle speeds in laptop drives lead to less power consumption, and hence less heat and more battery life; there are delicate balancing acts in the engineering.


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PS3 uses nano arrays of carbon crystals activating in a solid state matrix to store data. So, technically, it isn't an HDD in the true sense, more of a data storage solutinon.


You work for Sony, don't you?

That's the exact kind of crud they were talking before the launch of PS3. How it had been delayed because the govt felt that the cell cpu could be used to launch missiles. Or was that the PS2?

I dunno LOL. Bestest Sony statement ever was "we dismiss the wii as a toy. Here at Sony we aim to provide more grown up machines"

Was awfully funny afterwards to see the Wii with it's tiny self drag the PS3 down an alley and kick 7 shades out of it. :DD

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I heard that the older xboxes over heated... so you could warm your house with them..


And broke their solder points on the PSU causing fires.

That would heat your house alright :DD

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That was the PS2 as far as I remember (the missiles thing that is).

Although I wouldn't be surprised if something similar was peddled for the PS3.

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Radeon 4650.. or is it the 4670?

yup it is.

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/151397

Sorry, it is the 4670. But its 60 quid. Well worth the extra tenner IMO.

http://www.tekheads.co.uk/s/product?product=609720


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Radeon 4650.. or is it the 4670?

yup it is.

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/151397

Sorry, it is the 4670. But its 60 quid. Well worth the extra tenner IMO.

http://www.tekheads.co.uk/s/product?product=609720


Cheers, but that's out of my budget.


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There's something not quite right with that screenshot, but I can't figure out what.

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There's something not quite right with that screenshot, but I can't figure out what.


Apart from completely flat light? It looks so bland.


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Well yes, bland does describe it, I suppose. :)

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I don't care shit for achievements, so it was very distracting and annoying to see them appearing once in awhile.


Then turn off notifications. (Go into the guide - home button. Choose personal settings, notifications and turn them off)

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Besides, they appear in Brazilian Portuguese and i don't even have the option to change it to English.


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Radeon 4650.. or is it the 4670?

yup it is.

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/151397

Sorry, it is the 4670. But its 60 quid. Well worth the extra tenner IMO.

http://www.tekheads.co.uk/s/product?product=609720


Cheers, but that's out of my budget.


The 8800GS was in PC world for about £40


My nearest branch is too far. However, I will note down these recommendations and see what I can find. Cheers.

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I might be able to sell a 8600 GTS. Its basically new. Leave it with me, I'll ask my cousin if he minds a rad 1650 swap.

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The only imgae i could find was this

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/20 ... een017.jpg

From gamespot.

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Sadly the only other viable choices are either Linux (you really need to know backend stuff with no GUI to be good at it) and the wonderful MacOS which is about as useful for gaming as a chocolate teapot.

Man, SFII was so ubiquitous that I think it even came out on chocolate teapot by 1994.

But by then everyone was already playing SFII Turbo.

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Sadly the only other viable choices are either Linux (you really need to know backend stuff with no GUI to be good at it) and the wonderful MacOS which is about as useful for gaming as a chocolate teapot.

Man, SFII was so ubiquitous that I think it even came out on chocolate teapot by 1994.

But by then everyone was already playing SFII Turbo.


Chocolate teapot version:

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Sadly the only other viable choices are either Linux (you really need to know backend stuff with no GUI to be good at it) and the wonderful MacOS which is about as useful for gaming as a chocolate teapot.

Man, SFII was so ubiquitous that I think it even came out on chocolate teapot by 1994.


Even the CPC got a copy:



ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view!
Yeah, like you didn't realise that was a fake. :DD :DD :DD

There was no CPC version despite US Gold telling Amstrad Action it would be with them "next month" for 6 months running. They even named a dev team (ARC Developments who did GX4000 Pang). Eventually US Gold claimed the CPC version was never in development and was an "administration error".

Speccy version was a decent attempt, although only any fun if you had a +3 and a Multiface as the fucker came on a C60 and was the worst multiload ever. The C64 version had all the charm of a white dog turd. Personally I think CPC owners got a lucky escape.


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Well yes, bland does describe it, I suppose. :)


It's a very bland game. Graphics are shit too. Fast tho.

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And now for some PC love.

First up Far Cry 2 with no AA. I'm having a bitch of a time getting it working properly in Vista.

Apols for the jpg compression. Pic 1 is a lake, pic 2 is a rain storm (simply the best part of the game).


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NFS undercover, a better pic. Again I'm having trouble with the FSAA. GRR


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And now for some PC love.


Boot windows.
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Game demands the CD which you then have to find.
20 minutes later you find the CD.
Game loads.
Game crashes.
Get bored, play X-Boxstation instead.

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No offence John, but I compared that FO3 screenshot to my 360 version (as I happened to be playing it at the time). To my eyes, it just didn't seem very different at all.

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Boot windows.
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Game demands the CD which you then have to find.
20 minutes later you find the CD.
Game loads.
Game crashes.
Get bored, play X-Boxstation instead.

PC gaming is about as much fun as self-harm.


Install game, install no dvd crack. Enjoy ten times faster loading than any console can manage.

You're doing it wrong. Even the games I paid for don't run from the cd/dvd.

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No offence John, but I compared that FO3 screenshot to my 360 version (as I happened to be playing it at the time). To my eyes, it just didn't seem very different at all.


A still image won't. It's not about the images in truth. It's more about view distances, particle effects and so on. None can be seen from a screen shot.

I also had the AA on low there, whereas most of the time I have it set to high. I just can't get my head around Vista so it's going. Appears m$ have disabled opengl in favor of direct3d. My nvidia control panel does not appear in Vista, and, looking at the drivers they are a third of the size. So there is no Nvidia control panel in Vista which means you have to rely on bloody Vista.

Fuck that. I'm putting XP back on thisarvo. Can't stand this playschool shit anymore.

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Install game, install no dvd crack. Enjoy ten times faster loading than any console can manage.

You're doing it wrong. Even the games I paid for don't run from the cd/dvd.

So even for the games you've legitimately bought, you still have to install a potentially harmful, illegal crack in order to get them to run properly? I'm not meaning to sound off, but it just doesn't seem worth it.

With regards to Fallout 3, I think it looks absolutely stunning on my console. Do I think that the experience would be better if I had slightly better particle effects and anti-aliasing? I severely doubt it.

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Install game, install no dvd crack. Enjoy ten times faster loading than any console can manage.

You're doing it wrong. Even the games I paid for don't run from the cd/dvd.


So what you are saying is that the games require a crack that could contain viruses and malware in order to run without a CD or DVD?

Hmm, let me think about that.......

Kind of confirms my opinion that PC gaming is for masochists.


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 Post subject: Re: PC Gaming hardware / Alienware deals (was OMG)
PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 11:59 
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myp wrote:
With regards to Fallout 3, I think it looks absolutely stunning on my console. Do I think that the experience would be better if I had slightly better particle effects and anti-aliasing? I severely doubt it.


Would it be 100 quid better? And worth the 10 day wait?

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Can you play Eve on an XBOX360?

Also I would like to play Quakelive and spin round in the air taking out 3 people before I land and strafe jump up a staircase dodging rockets.

I will buy one tomorrow if these things are possible as I would love to make more use of my big TV.

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Nemmie wrote:
Can you play Eve on an XBOX360?


Presumably not as even the foul smelling console crowd I see in Game aren't that geeky.


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 Post subject: Re: PC Gaming hardware / Alienware deals (was OMG)
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I crack games to avoid installing DRMs and Securom. If they treat me like a criminal I will act like one.

Crysis wouldnt even run without being cracked because I have Daemon tools.

I've always done it any way, for the loading times. And yes, it is worth it, much so.

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 Post subject: Re: PC Gaming hardware / Alienware deals (was OMG)
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yay :)


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