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Ah, but you're discounting the 'grief athletes' who'll do anything to prove to the world that they're grieving about 'tragedy/death X' more than anyone else in the world is. Buying 20 copies of a cd to post to all their friends with handwritten poems about the deceased? Kids stuff for the serious grief athlete.


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Facebook manifests this well. One of my 'friends' on there seperately dedicated all her thoughts and prayers to the people of Norway and Amy winehouse two minutes apart on Sunday, then two minutes later all her thoughts had moved to her brother, as he had his first baby two days before.


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I know what you said, but I also know what you meant deep down.

And that neatly sums up every internet forum discussion, ever.


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Facebook manifests this well. One of my 'friends' on there seperately dedicated all her thoughts and prayers to the people of Norway and Amy winehouse two minutes apart on Sunday, then two minutes later all her thoughts had moved to her brother, as he had his first baby two days before.



I'm like that when I've had a shitton of coffee. Or booze. Or coke.

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I know what you said, but I also know what you meant deep down.

And that neatly sums up every internet forum discussion, ever.

Really? I'm not sure that most people have a deep down level.

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lasermink wrote:
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I know what you said, but I also know what you meant deep down.

And that neatly sums up every internet forum discussion, ever.

Really? I'm not sure that most people have a deep down level.


Gazchap, for example, lives in a first floor flat.

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lasermink wrote:
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I know what you said, but I also know what you meant deep down.

And that neatly sums up every internet forum discussion, ever.

Really? I'm not sure that most people have a deep down level.


Gazchap, for example, lives in a first floor flat.

I think you mean ground floor.

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With relatively little back catalog to her name (two albums, right? And a few appearances on other songs and stuff?), it's hard to imagine how big a sales surge this would cause. Surely anyone who liked her enough to care already had those songs?


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lasermink wrote:
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I know what you said, but I also know what you meant deep down.

And that neatly sums up every internet forum discussion, ever.


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Mr Kissyfur wrote:
MaliA wrote:
Mr Kissyfur wrote:
lasermink wrote:
myoptikakaka wrote:
I know what you said, but I also know what you meant deep down.

And that neatly sums up every internet forum discussion, ever.

Really? I'm not sure that most people have a deep down level.


Gazchap, for example, lives in a first floor flat.

I think you mean ground floor.


I think I'm gonna Fritzl you.

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 Post subject: Re: Unexplained Pasta Deaths
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With relatively little back catalog to her name (two albums, right? And a few appearances on other songs and stuff?), it's hard to imagine how big a sales surge this would cause. Surely anyone who liked her enough to care already had those songs?
Never underestimate the power of me-too-ism.

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[T]he late Amy Winehouse returns to the top 10 [of the American Billboard chart] with "Back to Black" at No. 9 (37,000; up 3,140%). Winehouse's first album, 2004's "Frank," also comes back to the tally, re-entering at No. 57 with 8,000 (up 4,100%)

This strikes me as exceedingly silly.


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 Post subject: Re: Unexplained Pasta Deaths
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37,000 albums gets you to number 10? Wow.

I though it would be much more than that... But anyway, that's not the point of this thread.

It does seem silly buying her albums now but people still do it don't they?


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But it's important that the record label and manager who let her coke herself to death make lots of money! Very important! We must show them our support.

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That other thread, for any who are lost: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7521

Cheers, Nik. I wasn't even going to look in that thread as I thought it was about the man himself!

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37,000 albums gets you to number 10? Wow.

There's an alternative voting system I can get behind!


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 Post subject: Re: Unexplained Pasta Deaths
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I can't understand people thinking it would be in any way appropriate to buy one of her albums given the fact that the money is going to go to the very people that let her kill herself and quite probably her drug dealer ex-husband depending on the divorce terms. If you want to remeber her music and voice at it's very best download her 2007 live in Paradiso amsterdam gig.

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 Post subject: Re: Unexplained Pasta Deaths
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
With relatively little back catalog to her name (two albums, right? And a few appearances on other songs and stuff?), it's hard to imagine how big a sales surge this would cause. Surely anyone who liked her enough to care already had those songs?


Never underestimate the power of me-too-ism.

Suddenly she's all over the TV, magazines and every newspaper with everyone talking about her as though she were a legendary genius, it doesn't seem at all surprising that this may lead quite a lot of people to check out her music even if they'd never bothered before.


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 Post subject: Re: Unexplained Pasta Deaths
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Yeah, I was thinking this. It may not be a surge of people already fans that they are targetting, but people wondering what all the fuss is about.

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Back when I worked in a record shop, the day after anyone died people would always come in asking if we stocked their albums. I guess it's to do with the increased exposure that having an obituary brings you: the whole 'hey, never heard this before but I like it' thing. Sadly, George Harrison died before they re-released the 'Travelling Wilburys', which was quite frustrating having to explain to impatient customers that we couldn't get the discs.


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 Post subject: Re: Unexplained Pasta Deaths
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Suddenly she's all over the TV, magazines and every newspaper with everyone talking about her as though she were a legendary genius, it doesn't seem at all surprising that this may lead quite a lot of people to check out her music even if they'd never bothered before.
I guess that must be it. Still, though, she was hardly obscure before, was she? I certainly knew who she was and could have hummed a few bars of a few of her songs, despite having zero interest in her work and never listening to music radio.


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 Post subject: Re: Unexplained Pasta Deaths
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
markg wrote:
Suddenly she's all over the TV, magazines and every newspaper with everyone talking about her as though she were a legendary genius, it doesn't seem at all surprising that this may lead quite a lot of people to check out her music even if they'd never bothered before.
I guess that must be it. Still, though, she was hardly obscure before, was she? I certainly knew who she was and could have hummed a few bars of a few of her songs, despite having zero interest in her work and never listening to music radio.

That's the power of advertising though and this isn't meant to sound callous but you couldn't even buy this kind of advertising.


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"Make 'em go gold before they're cold" is apparently a long-standing music industry saying.


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Ah, but you're discounting the 'grief athletes' who'll do anything to prove to the world that they're grieving about 'tragedy/death X' more than anyone else in the world is. Buying 20 copies of a cd to post to all their friends with handwritten poems about the deceased? Kids stuff for the serious grief athlete.


I really ought to dig out that "Tragedy Tourists" song Geoff and I wrote for Shallow End.

"We travelled down to Soham, we could not stay at home, because we're just so addicted to other peoples grief,
You can see us on the next train, or by a crashed car in a bus lane, because we're just so addicted to other peoples grief"

I'm sure the line "Desert Orchid. In death, he was a racehorse beloved by the nation. In life, he was an investment opportunity." is in there somewhere.

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I can't understand people thinking it would be in any way appropriate to buy one of her albums given the fact that the money is going to go to the very people that let her kill herself and quite probably her drug dealer ex-husband depending on the divorce terms.


IIRC, when Biggie Smalls died, the three people who benefited the most from the tribute single being a #1 was his ex-producer/record label owner who produced it, Smalls' ex-wife who sang on it and Sting, who got half a million quid for the "Every Breath You Take" sample it used.

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Toxicology results back and no illegal substances found in her system, only alcohol.

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Toxicology results back and no illegal substances found in her system, only ravioli.

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Toxicology results back and no illegal substances found in her system, only cibrushsille.

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Do they have a cause of death then?

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Do they have a cause of death then?


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I'm glad this thread deserved to be bumped and I won't apologise for it. Flounce.

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Do they have a cause of death then?


No, it cannot be confirmed whether the alcohol caused her death.

Actual cause of death is a matter for the inquest on the 26th October.

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She was pasta sell by date.

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She was killd by MI6, Princess Diana and Dodi al-Fayed, who all made their escape on Shergar.

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She was killd by MI6, Princess Diana and Dodi al-Fayed, who all made their escape on Shergar.


Chinny was a girl!?

Oh wait.....

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All these long, drawn out investigations! I really don't know how people endurum.

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All these long, drawn out investigations! I really don't know how people endurum.

It does my noodle in. We need to know udon it, and if she was soba or not. We know she wasn't on an pillus, but did she penne a suicide note. it was definitely not a fregula day for her.


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http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/a ... lts-253655

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The Grammy winner died from drinking too much alcohol, a London coroner said Wednesday.

Coroner Suzanne Greenaway tells the Associated Press the verdict has been ruled "death by misadventure" because Winehouse voluntarily consumed alcohol and took on the consequences of her actions.

A pathologist said Winehouse had consumed a "very large quantity of alcohol," and was more than five times the legal limit when she died on July 23 at age 27.


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Hmm. Surely 10 pints is five times the legal limit?

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Do they mean having drunk too much alcohol for a number of years? You can't possibly die from just drinking 5 times the legal limit*, as I'm fairly sure I was somewhere north of that at the BEEXBEEQUE.


*assuming they mean the drink drive limit, which equates to approx 4 units.

EDIT - Hi 5! And given that a pint of average lager these days is around 3 units, it would be closer to 6 pints than 10.

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Surely 10 pints is five times the legal limit?
No. Because the coroner will (presumably) be saying she had a blood alcohol amount of 5x80 mg of alcohol per 100 ml of blood, so an alcohol content of 0.4%.

That's a lot more than you can get inside you from 10 pints because you don't inhale the booze instantly (so you're constantly metabolising it out) and you don't absorb it that evenly. Wikipedia notes that this is pretty high. This page puts that BAC in the "coma" side effect category.

Basically, alcohol in your mouth doesn't directly relate to alcohol in your blood. Other factors are at work.


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Surely 10 pints is five times the legal limit?
No. Because the coroner will (presumably) be saying she had a blood alcohol amount of 5x80 mg of alcohol per 100 ml of blood, so an alcohol content of 0.4%.

That's a lot more than you can get inside you from 10 pints because you don't inhale the booze instantly (so you're constantly metabolising it out) and you don't absorb it that evenly. Wikipedia notes that this is pretty high. This page puts that BAC in the "coma" side effect category.

Basically, alcohol in your mouth doesn't directly relate to alcohol in your blood. Other factors are at work.

Thank fuck for that. For a second there I thought I had quite spectacularly dodged a bullet hail of bullets.

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I'm fairly sure I posted the below here, but it turned up in the Uncharted thread. Thankfully Gaywood has solved it.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/oc ... sadventure


"The inquest, held in London, was told she hit the bottle after being dry for three weeks and was poisoned by alcohol.

The St Pancras coroner Suzanne Greenway said: "She had consumed sufficient alcohol at 416mg per decilitre [of blood] and the unintended consequence of such potentially fatal levels was her sudden and unexpected death.""

Hang on - that's not ordinarily potentially fatal, surely?

"The inquest heard that a postmortem examination of the Back To Black diva's body found her vital organs in good health and with no traces of illegal drugs.

But the amount of alcohol in her system could have stopped her breathing and sent her into a coma."

Christ.

I think we're looking at this wrong - is it that if you drink 6 pints over the course of an evening, your blood alochol level would go down whils you're drinking, so you would never have 5 times the drink drive limit in your blood? So having that much alcohol in your blood would mean that you'd drunk enough to be the equivalent of having 6 pints in one go?

I'm confused.

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