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Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Mon Jun 29, 2009 14:40 ]
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Can people follow Lave's example and give me numbers as well as names, so I can scroll less? Ta!

I'll give FF7 to Grim..., on the grounds of his long history of defending the hateful rubbish on the forum.
Author:  myp [ Mon Jun 29, 2009 14:40 ]
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Oh, can we have more than one? In that case, I could do SWOS and Half-Life, too.
Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Mon Jun 29, 2009 14:42 ]
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myp wrote:
Oh, can we have more than one? In that case, I could do SWOS and Half-Life, too.
I don't see why not, if more than one person desperately wants to do one particular game I'm sure we can sort it out.
Author:  Grim... [ Mon Jun 29, 2009 14:42 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
I'll give FF7 to Grim..., on the grounds of his long history of defending the hateful rubbish on the forum.

And because he said about it on Friday, along with the article idea ;)
Author:  chinnyhill10 [ Mon Jun 29, 2009 14:43 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
I'll give FF7 to Grim..., on the grounds of his long history of defending the hateful rubbish on the forum.


888 Bananas

Fuck it, now I've triggered banana subtitles.

[rummages around for off key]
Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Mon Jun 29, 2009 14:44 ]
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Chinny, you might want to make the first post link to viewtopic.php?p=258007#p258007 instead of dupe the content. Unless you're planning on cut/pasting it a lot as I update.

Maybe we should just make the admins reassign the first post to me so I can edit it? Don't wanna tread on your toes though.
Author:  romanista [ Mon Jun 29, 2009 15:00 ]
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wouldn't mind doing swos, advance wars and ouendan
Author:  The Rev Owen [ Mon Jun 29, 2009 15:03 ]
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If nobody else wants to do them, I'll do -

7. OutRun 2/2006: Coast 2 Coast/Online Arcade [3] - 30 *
10. Doom - 27
31. Crackdown - 12
35. Grand Theft Auto Series (3D Versions) - 11.5 *

If anyone else wants to do any or all of them, that's fine by me.
Author:  myp [ Mon Jun 29, 2009 15:04 ]
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romanista wrote:
wouldn't mind doing swos

If you can beat me over two legs at SWOS, I'll let you do it.
Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Mon Jun 29, 2009 15:05 ]
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myp wrote:
romanista wrote:
wouldn't mind doing swos
If you can beat me over two legs at SWOS, I'll let you do it.
Hah! That's an excellent way to settle it!
Author:  Dr Lave [ Mon Jun 29, 2009 15:06 ]
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The Rev Owen wrote:
If nobody else wants to do them, I'll do...*

If anyone else wants to do any or all of them, that's fine by me.


The Rev writing about Outrun is an ace choice. He can really right good text about racing games. As his super nerdy blog attests.

(You going to make me buy fuel by he way! :) )
Author:  RuySan [ Mon Jun 29, 2009 15:22 ]
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I now i'm late to the party, but merging votes for Final Fantasy VII or monkey island (or any adventure/RPG) is incredibly stupid

EDIT: Or Zelda. I voted for Wind Waker and i cannot accept the fact that this have counted for Ocarina of Time
Author:  TheVision [ Mon Jun 29, 2009 15:25 ]
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can I do 6 - Goldeneye and 33 - Perfect Dark please? That's if there's write ups available for them?!?
Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Mon Jun 29, 2009 15:26 ]
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TheVision wrote:
can I do 6 - Goldeneye and 33 - Perfect Dark please? That's if there's write ups available for them?!?
Yup.

All volunteers for writups are listed here. If a game has no name next to it, then it's still free for people to write.
Author:  TheVision [ Mon Jun 29, 2009 15:29 ]
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Actually.. I missed this one, but could I do Street Fighter as well please? I'm not sure I can squeeze my love for it into one paragraph AND include the fact it came out on the Spectrum but I'll give it a go!
Author:  Zardoz [ Mon Jun 29, 2009 15:32 ]
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I'll have a bash with...

18. Ico - 21
Author:  RuySan [ Mon Jun 29, 2009 15:34 ]
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I can write Heroes of Might and Magic 3....and humm.....Final Fantasy VII??? :D
Author:  TheVision [ Mon Jun 29, 2009 15:46 ]
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Just a quick query but are we planning on doing this annually? It could work out with new people joining the forum, people leaving, all those people that didn't post this time and new games being released!

Plus.. it should be easire as we've got the rules set out now haven't we?
Author:  chinnyhill10 [ Mon Jun 29, 2009 15:52 ]
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TheVision wrote:
Just a quick query but are we planning on doing this annually? It could work out with new people joining the forum, people leaving, all those people that didn't post this time and new games being released!

Plus.. it should be easire as we've got the rules set out now haven't we?


That's the plan. The real validity will come to see how games do year to year.
Author:  TheVision [ Mon Jun 29, 2009 15:57 ]
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chinnyhill10 wrote:
TheVision wrote:
Just a quick query but are we planning on doing this annually? It could work out with new people joining the forum, people leaving, all those people that didn't post this time and new games being released!

Plus.. it should be easire as we've got the rules set out now haven't we?


That's the plan. The real validity will come to see how games do year to year.


Awesome! I'd like to think that my list won't change that much in a year, but it'd be fun to see what I think.. if only I could phone myself in a years time and ask what I think. I need a future phone!!
Author:  Dimrill [ Mon Jun 29, 2009 16:30 ]
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Considering that Pirates! was my number one pick and the sole reason it's on the list at all, I suppose I'd better writ dat shit bitch.
Author:  throughsilver [ Mon Jun 29, 2009 18:02 ]
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Zardoz wrote:
9 - Rez HD - 360

Just as I was gonna buy a fackin' PS3.

MaliA wrote:
My list:

8) Medieval Total War

I was shocked by that too.

***

May I 'do' Mario Kart please? It's the only unbaggsied game that I'm comfortable enough with writing about.

And on the bench for SFII, should anything 'happen' to TheVision. Ta.
Author:  Blucey [ Tue Jun 30, 2009 0:28 ]
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I think I'm responsible for King's Bounty being in there so I'm happy to write some bollocks about that.
Author:  TsuMuch [ Tue Jun 30, 2009 0:30 ]
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I'd be happy to do the write-ups for Shenmue and/or Fallout 3, and even though I didn't vote for it, I'm sure I could manage to say some nice things about the most therapeutic game in the world: Transport Tycoon. That said, I realise I'm just a lowly lurker, and I don't want to step on any toes, so if anyone is aching to write those up I'll be able to live with being displaced.

Also, PLEASE take Malc's advice for the scoring system next year. It makes huge amounts of sense if you stop and think about it. How many people truly thought that their first-placed game was ten times better than their tenth placed game? I certainly didn't- and think a list which puts more emphasis on the number of separate votes each game receives instead of where they placed 1-10 will reflect the tastes of the forum more accurately.

Malc wrote:
ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view!
As a few people have said that they could have submitted their games in any order, or indeed did submit them without any bias. Why not have the 1st game getting 20 points, and then decrease it to so the 10th game gets 11 points. (or 30 to 21, 50 to 41 etc)

Because at the moment a game that appeared near the bottom of 5 people's top 10 isn't going to be above a game which was in 1 person's top spot.

Oh, and I forgot to ask last few times I posted: am I REALLY the only person here who thinks Tetris needs to be counted among the best games ever made?
Author:  Wullie [ Tue Jun 30, 2009 0:54 ]
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Has anyone volunteered to write about Bubble Bobble yet? If not I would like to give it a crack.
Author:  chinnyhill10 [ Tue Jun 30, 2009 0:57 ]
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Should just mention this for the writers....

The games indicated with a star had votes contributed towards them from other games in the series. So when writing a review you might want to mention why the title is the standout version or even if other games in the series are worth checking out.
Author:  Mr Dave [ Tue Jun 30, 2009 1:16 ]
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chinnyhill10 wrote:
The Rev Owen wrote:
But... but... isn't the original arcade version of Rainbow Islands clearly the best?


We're restricting ourselves to home formats. Otherwise we're going to end up in a right old pickle.


So, like the PS2, and the XBox (and the PC) which had the full, authentic arcade version released for them.
Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:57 ]
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Edit -- hmm, I have missed some posts from people. Stand by for update.
Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:06 ]
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TsuMuch wrote:
I'd be happy to do the write-ups for Shenmue and/or Fallout 3, and even though I didn't vote for it, I'm sure I could manage to say some nice things about the most therapeutic game in the world: Transport Tycoon. That said, I realise I'm just a lowly lurker, and I don't want to step on any toes, so if anyone is aching to write those up I'll be able to live with being displaced.
Don't worry about that! I've put you down for all three. If anyone else wants to write one or more of them, we'll flip a coin or something, or spread it around so everyone writes about the same amount.

Right, I still need volunteers for the following games:

(DG) 1. Resident Evil 4 - 46.5 *
8. Wario Ware - 30
9. Super Mario Galaxy - 28.25 *
(DG) 11. Elite - 26
12. Civilisation IV - 25.25 *
(DG) 16. Rock Band/Rock Band 2 - 22
17 Zelda: Ocarina of Time - 21.25 *
22. Baldurs Gate 2 - 17
(DG) 23. Chaos - 16
28. Animal Crossing - 13
32. Gravity Power - 12
(DG) 34. Deus Ex - 12
37. Championship Manager 01/02 - 10
39. Landstalker - 10
40. Samurai Warriors 2 Empires - 10
41. World Of Warcraft - 10
42. Hypersports - 10
(DG) 44. EvE Online - 10
46. Quake - 10
(DG) 50. Syndicate - 9

(DG) prefixed before the game means I would be comfortable writing that one if no-one else comes forward.

List of volunteers I've had so far.
Author:  Grim... [ Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:06 ]
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Can we get Comical to do number 44?
Author:  MaliA [ Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:07 ]
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I'll do the EvE one if you want. i've got the original forum post open in a text editor at present, with the intention of tidying it, adding to it, etc, but it's just sitting there. how many words do you want?
Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:08 ]
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MaliA wrote:
I'll do the EvE one if you want. i've got the original forum post open at present, but it's just sitting there. how many words do you want?
Just a paragraph for most of the games. Chinny suggested that EvE get a longer writeup which I agree with -- with two MMOs, one should get a longer bit, and WoW is boringly conventional. Plus EvE is the modern inheritor of Elite and Elite is also in the list. Even so though, I'd say only a few paragraphs.

Good luck summing EvE up in a few hundred words :DD
Author:  MaliA [ Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:11 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
MaliA wrote:
I'll do the EvE one if you want. i've got the original forum post open at present, but it's just sitting there. how many words do you want?
Just a paragraph for most of the games. Chinny suggested that EvE get a longer writeup which I agree with -- with two MMOs, one should get a longer bit, and WoW is boringly conventional. Plus EvE is the modern inheritor of Elite and Elite is also in the list. Even so though, I'd say only a few paragraphs.

Good luck summing EvE up in a few hundred words :DD


Any deadline? it's not as if I'm terribly busy right now.
Author:  Cras [ Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:12 ]
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Mr Chris just volunteered to do Baldur's Gate 2.
Author:  The Rev Owen [ Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:14 ]
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Oh go on, add 28 - Animal Crossing to my list.
Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:15 ]
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MaliA wrote:
Any deadline? it's not as if I'm terribly busy right now.
I'd like to get them all done over the next week or so. That should be OK.
Author:  Grim... [ Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:17 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
MaliA wrote:
I'll do the EvE one if you want. i've got the original forum post open at present, but it's just sitting there. how many words do you want?
Just a paragraph for most of the games. Chinny suggested that EvE get a longer writeup which I agree with -- with two MMOs, one should get a longer bit, and WoW is boringly conventional. Plus EvE is the modern inheritor of Elite and Elite is also in the list. Even so though, I'd say only a few paragraphs.

Good luck summing EvE up in a few hundred words :DD

Dude, I'm going to need a few hundred words just to explain why the fuck we're lumping the FF series into one game.
Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:19 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Dude, I'm going to need a few hundred words just to explain why the fuck we're lumping the FF series into one game.
I think the top 10 can run out a bit longer, if people feel they need it. And certainly the top five.

Edit -- it's not that I'm concerned about any writeup being too long, more that I don't want anyone to feel they have to write a lot. If you want to write more than a paragaph I think that's OK as long as no-one goes nuts and starts sending me 10,000 word essays.
Author:  chinnyhill10 [ Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:21 ]
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Mr Dave wrote:
chinnyhill10 wrote:
The Rev Owen wrote:
But... but... isn't the original arcade version of Rainbow Islands clearly the best?


We're restricting ourselves to home formats. Otherwise we're going to end up in a right old pickle.


So, like the PS2, and the XBox (and the PC) which had the full, authentic arcade version released for them.


[starts whistling "Somewhere Over The Rainbow"]
Author:  Mr Dave [ Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:47 ]
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chinnyhill10 wrote:
Mr Dave wrote:
chinnyhill10 wrote:
The Rev Owen wrote:
But... but... isn't the original arcade version of Rainbow Islands clearly the best?


We're restricting ourselves to home formats. Otherwise we're going to end up in a right old pickle.


So, like the PS2, and the XBox (and the PC) which had the full, authentic arcade version released for them.


[starts whistling "Somewhere Over The Rainbow"]


The full arcade gameplay is available on home formats. Indeed, home formats which people are more likely to have, rather than turning to emulation (which if they're going to do, then the arcade version is available)

Things like the Amiga and spectrums versions do not have the same gameplay as the arcade original. Hardware constraints stopped that being possible.
Author:  chinnyhill10 [ Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:02 ]
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Mr Dave wrote:

Things like the Amiga and spectrums versions do not have the same gameplay as the arcade original. Hardware constraints stopped that being possible.


[continues whistling "Somewhere Over The Rainbow"]
Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:14 ]
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I'm already getting PMs with writeups from people. A few authors have asked about the personal vs informative balance of the piece. I think I'd lean on the personal side. After all, people could go to Wikipedia if they wanted the facts; what I think we should convey is a passion for the game, and that comes from the personal angle. Obviously you do need to sketch out what sort of game it is and stuff, but I think the personal angle should be foremost. Convince me I should play that 15 year old game because it's vitally important or just huge fun.

With that in mind, in the writeups, each game will of course be subtitled by who contributed that writeup.
Author:  chinnyhill10 [ Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:17 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
With that in mind, in the writeups, each game will of course be subtitled by who contributed that writeup.


I wish to be known as Chinny Pillar. Halfway through we'll change it and deny I'm the same person.


Not really.
Author:  chinnyhill10 [ Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:17 ]
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+ we need an "Arnie Speaks" boxout. Natch.
Author:  devilman [ Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:35 ]
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I'll take Chaos off your hands DG unless you especially wanted to do its write-up?
Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:43 ]
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devilman wrote:
I'll take Chaos off your hands DG unless you especially wanted to do its write-up?
Nope, the DG ones are the reserve list, as it were.
Author:  chinnyhill10 [ Tue Jun 30, 2009 15:25 ]
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It did occur to me that we might not be worthy to review these games. But no fear, I introduce to you the (Linda Barker - Ed) Ouija Board. Yes we can ask the spirit of (Linda Barker - Ed) to rate each game in the top 50.

[lights dim]

So, spirit of (Linda - Ed), what do you think of our top 50?

Image
Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Tue Jun 30, 2009 15:26 ]
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Empire have published a voted-for "top 100" games ever list, which interesting also puts FFVII at number 2: http://www.empireonline.com/100greatest ... lt.asp?p=2
Author:  myp [ Tue Jun 30, 2009 15:28 ]
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If we did a Top 50 worst games ever, where would FFVII place, do you think?
Author:  RuySan [ Tue Jun 30, 2009 15:28 ]
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someone someday may have to explain to me the Linda Barker jokes
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