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It also is i5 only and weighs half a kilo more than the MBA. The Spectre^XT looks likely to be an i7, but it isn't available in the UK.

Pricing looks to be about comparable to the MBA.

Dude i know you mean well, but you are talking out of your arse again!

Have you checked out Rock, Craster?

They use the same components as Alienware yet are cheaper and have a more broad range. They're still expensive, mind.

I remember the boss having one at work, but we use Elitebooks as they have a bit more grunt, and asuming I am still employed get a new one in November..

Dude that was 4 years ago....

HP have only recently and I mean recently changed the design of the laptops. Let me check who I work for again... ah yes!

Could you fire myp? Or can he fire you first?

They don't do small and light, unfortunately. They're more big and powerful.

I'm not sure what the Envy Spectre range (ultrabooks) have to do with gaming laptops at all. It's like dissing the MacBook Air because it won't run BF3 on max settings. I fail to see what the Voodoo buyout has to do with this thread at all.

old elitebook old

new elitebook new

very apple esk, so JC you saying HP sat on a voodoo design for 3 years?

I didn't say they had anything to do with gaming did I? What I said was who made them and where they came from, and that they were over priced.

Kovacs. See above.

Sorry Myp

Does it have to be I7 Craster?

What I was saying and still say, is that you sir are wrong.

I think this is yours

The only reason it would really need Hyperthreading is if he's editing video or using apps that support 4+ threads.

An I5 is an I7 without Hyperthreading.

Very rarely would you need HT in a laptop unless you were using it as a complete desktop replacement.

I literally do not know where to begin with this. It's entirely irrelevant and wrong on at least two counts.

So the Alienware machines that Dell now make are the same as the ones they made pre-buyout? You are talking codswallop, sir - good day!

The insides are still made by Clevo. So whilst they may look different due to redesign they are still using the same methods, yes.

Does this help?

http://www.intel.co.uk/content/www/uk/e ... abook.html

Different ultra type books.

Just throwing this out there


1) A laptop that's small and light enough to carry around easily. My current machine has a 13" screen and weighs just under a kilo. I'm expecting to need to go bigger, but not too much bigger.
2) A decent amount of ideally SSD storage - 256Gb if possible, but definitely 128Gb or higher
3) Enough grunt to do a decent amount of image processing - rendering previews of 18Mb images in Lightroom takes a bit of oomph.
4) Not bothered about playing games other than old stuff.
5) Not a mac.
6) Price...negotiable. Don't want to spend silly money, but I'll pay to get what I want.


As I read it, Craster wants small, light and powerful. I'm not sure arguing about random desktop replacement or gaming laptop behemoths is entirely the point

What about a Toshiba Porridge?
it ain't cheap, mind:
http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/Toshiba_ ... ersion.asp

I get that bit...

How does that compare to mac prices?

Interesting. Good find. Nice and light, too.

It's a little bit cheaper than the equivalent spec MBA.

I forgot how expensive 'good' laptops were!

http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/Toshiba_ ... ersion.asp

is it really £200 difference between the i5 and i7!

I may have just bought a Macbook Air. I need a shower.

What's happened to you man?

Try it on OSX first at least, you might like it

I'll keep a decent sized OSX partition on there. It'll be useful to have it for xcode if nothing else.

Dispatching ROFLcopters.

Out of curiosity, what do you do on your home laptop that OS X can't manage?

Play music?

Have self respect.

it was my goading text, wasn't it?

Maybe.

It's probably too late, but I insist people recommend him bad laptops for the unforgiveable crime of abbreviating an abbreviation in the thread title. Even Hitler never did that.

It's ok, he bought a stupid one anyway.

I'm just hyper-efficient.

S W Y M

If that's what you want to tell yourself to make yourself feel better about being all done in under 5 minutes, you go for it.

But seriously, is there actually £200 worth of difference betweethis and this

Really? Because as far as I can see, for £200 pounds more, you're getting an annoying reflective screen, a tiny disk (as compared to a ssd + standard drive, which can be swapped out anyway), and a saving of 0.2kg. And the need to faff around getting windows on it. (and maybe extra cost for that too)

I don't get it, seems utterly mad.

Based on the PC Pro review I just read, it has a silly 16 GB unchangeable SSD, an inferior screen, an inferior keyboard, and an inferior touchpad. And it doesn't really have the CPU grunt Craster wanted, and doesn't appear to come in any higher spec models that I could see.

You should have gone to America to get an S9.

It's like for like in terms of CPU grunt with the Mac that was offered as a comparison. Inferior screen? Same resolution as the mac, and without the gloss finish that means you can actually see it when there's a little bit of light around. It was just a pointer that you end up paying considerably more for something with the apple name on it, which typically isn't as well featured. Inferior Keyboard and Touchpad? Really? I didn't notice any huge difference with an air. Well, asde from the sheer smallness of it being annoying for use. And I'm not a larger Gentleman.

I'm paying a little more for them to sell me a product that nobody else is willing to sell me. You can't buy a Samsung i7 Ultrabook in the UK. Or an HP. Or an Acer.

The i7 S9 isn't even released in the US yet, it would appear. And they don't do an 11".

Your Mum happily does an 11"

Heh.