Pundabaya wrote:
If only they hadn't included a 'boost' mechanic.
Particulary when you're not allowed to boost, and the opposition is allowed to arbitrarily choose to boost.
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| Author: | Dudley [ Mon May 12, 2008 12:05 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Upcoming Racing Games on X360 |
That is a worry, in any multi-game... game, if one section is shite then it can bring the whole thing down. |
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| Author: | myp [ Mon May 12, 2008 13:56 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Upcoming Racing Games on X360 |
I'm sure it's not a bad representation of the sport, but I happen to really hate drifting - it just seems pointless to me. |
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| Author: | Dudley [ Mon May 12, 2008 16:19 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Upcoming Racing Games on X360 |
Agreed, I was actually more impressed with the physics in that mode than the other 2... it's just not fun and adds to the alight lingering feeling that what we have here is Need for Speed : Race Driver. |
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| Author: | Dudley [ Sun May 18, 2008 15:36 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Upcoming Racing Games on X360 |
I need to make an apology to Grid. I tried it again today and transformed my opinion on the physics once I got a handle on them. The flashback is still shit, the drifting will never work and fake cars is a bit shit for the old TOCA series but the main game seems a hell of a lot more solid now and I was wrong. |
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| Author: | myp [ Mon May 19, 2008 9:17 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Upcoming Racing Games on X360 |
So are you buying it now, or still waiting for £17.99? I'm going to go back to the demo, but I need to find out if the drifting is integral to the game, because if it is it's a dealbreaker for me. |
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| Author: | Dudley [ Mon May 19, 2008 10:09 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Upcoming Racing Games on X360 |
Indeed, that's my problem. The drifting, still bobbins, both for physics and game structure reasons. Any time you're competing against a computer car where you have no indication how you're doing and it doesn't decide the score till the end is hideous, and the fact the mode doesn't appeal really doesn't help. So yeah, I doubt I'll preorder in the hope someone else will and I can't find out if I can avoid drifting (I don't really mind if I can't complete career mode, I just don't want to miss out on cars and tracks). We'll see. There may of course be another just as dodgy mode we've not yet encountered too. |
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| Author: | WTB [ Mon May 19, 2008 10:28 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Upcoming Racing Games on X360 |
You should definitely pick up Ridge 6. I think you can get it for about a fiver now, great fun. |
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| Author: | myp [ Mon May 19, 2008 10:29 ] |
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jonarob wrote: You should definitely pick up Ridge 6. I think you can get it for about a fiver now, great fun. I'm going to very soon, I think. |
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| Author: | Dudley [ Mon May 19, 2008 10:30 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Upcoming Racing Games on X360 |
As a Ridge 6 owner, I echo this. |
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| Author: | Joans [ Mon May 19, 2008 10:31 ] |
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I would also like to echo the benefits of Ridge 6 ownership. |
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| Author: | CUS [ Mon May 19, 2008 10:48 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Upcoming Racing Games on X360 |
I bought it with my Box, and recently re-bought it, despite having to start from scratch. It's still immensely good fun, and I spent most of last weekend playing it. I had much more fun than in say, Burnout Paradise TBH. |
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| Author: | myp [ Mon May 19, 2008 12:06 ] |
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Is the cheaty rubberbanding AI not a problem then? |
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| Author: | CUS [ Mon May 19, 2008 12:12 ] |
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Later on, yes, but the application of faster, better cars helps. Certainly for the price, I think it's top fun. |
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| Author: | Dudley [ Mon May 19, 2008 12:27 ] |
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I don't really consider the AI in something like RR as even competitors so they annoy me a lot less than say, when a TOCA game pulls that trick. |
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| Author: | Pundabaya [ Mon May 19, 2008 14:51 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Upcoming Racing Games on X360 |
If only they hadn't included a 'boost' mechanic. |
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| Author: | Mr Dave [ Mon May 19, 2008 20:24 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Upcoming Racing Games on X360 |
Pundabaya wrote: If only they hadn't included a 'boost' mechanic. Particulary when you're not allowed to boost, and the opposition is allowed to arbitrarily choose to boost. |
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| Author: | Trousers [ Tue May 20, 2008 8:19 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Upcoming Racing Games on X360 |
myoptika wrote: Is the cheaty rubberbanding AI not a problem then? Only for about the last 5% of the World Explorer. Which I am stuck on. I have a go at it every month or so but it really does cheat like fuck - the instant you set off half of them employ triple nitrous and fuck the fuck off. For the rest of it it does cheat but not quite as unfairly as the much later sections. |
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| Author: | myp [ Wed May 21, 2008 15:04 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Upcoming Racing Games on X360 |
Does anyone know of a decent rallying game on the 360 in the vein of the old Colin McRae games, or do they know if you can do the full WRC in DiRT? |
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| Author: | Dudley [ Wed May 21, 2008 17:44 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Upcoming Racing Games on X360 |
Dirt is the nearest you'll get, you could never do the "full" WRC in any game as far as I'm aware, but select (mostly fictional) stages from each event, Dirt I'm pretty certain provides that but you might have to tunnel through all the other modes to get to it. |
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| Author: | myp [ Wed May 21, 2008 19:01 ] |
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Harrumph. |
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| Author: | ChocoboOfDoom [ Wed Jun 04, 2008 20:10 ] |
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Turns out GRID was quite good after all. Who knew, eh? |
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| Author: | myp [ Wed Jun 04, 2008 20:14 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Upcoming Racing Games on X360 |
I'm not entirely surprised, but my questions have yet to be answered before I'll take a punt on it. |
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| Author: | GovernmentYard [ Wed Jun 04, 2008 21:28 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Upcoming Racing Games on X360 |
I just want Rallisport Challenge 3. |
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| Author: | AceAceBaby [ Wed Jun 04, 2008 21:51 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Upcoming Racing Games on X360 |
I quite like GRID, but it's been annoying me far too much. Not the lack of a remotely credible tire model, I can cope with that, but the hugely aggressive AI that will push you round into the barriers every time. It gets really tiring to restart the same race 10 times because you got barged off the track. I actually liked the drifting. It had a much more natural feel to the handling, and I enjoyed poising the car with a mix of steering and throttle to see-saw my way around the track. Maybe that's why I achieved an insane drift and a close to 500,000 score on my first event (though not my first try, admittedly). |
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| Author: | Dudley [ Wed Jun 04, 2008 22:15 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Upcoming Racing Games on X360 |
myoptika wrote: I'm not entirely surprised, but my questions have yet to be answered before I'll take a punt on it. Give me the questions again and I'll answer. I'm still not 100% decided. I will say when this is £17.99 you WILL want it. I can't quite wholly recommend it at £40 so ask about what you're going to find important. |
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| Author: | myp [ Thu Jun 05, 2008 13:11 ] |
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1. Is the drifting as bad as we first feared from the demo? 2. Is it integral to completing the game, or can you safely ignore it? 3. Is the handling ok once you've got used to it? 4. Is it worth £40? |
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| Author: | ChocoboOfDoom [ Thu Jun 05, 2008 13:13 ] |
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myoptika wrote: 1. Is the drifting as bad as we first feared from the demo? 2. Is it integral to completing the game, or can you safely ignore it? 3. Is the handling ok once you've got used to it? 4. Is it worth £40? 1. Yes 2. You can largely ignore it. Similar structure and interface to Dirt. 3. Yes 4. No game ever is. £25, maybe. |
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| Author: | myp [ Thu Jun 05, 2008 14:15 ] |
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I didn't buy DiRT for similar reasons. I feel that Codemasters have lost their way with both the Colin McRae and ToCA series. |
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| Author: | Dudley [ Thu Jun 05, 2008 14:26 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Upcoming Racing Games on X360 |
myoptika wrote: 1. Is the drifting as bad as we first feared from the demo? 2. Is it integral to completing the game, or can you safely ignore it? 3. Is the handling ok once you've got used to it? 4. Is it worth £40? 1) No, it's not half as hard for a start and I got a better handle on it. It's still not good. 2) "completing" yes, kinda. In that there's bonus head to head events for completing an entire tier. You won't miss any of the proper events by avoiding them though, that I can see. 3) I think so, certainly transparent enough so you concentrate on the racing, where it really feels more like an actual "race" than just about anything I've played. 4) Undecided. It's absolutely worth £18. I got it because I had a bonus and I don't regret it but... |
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| Author: | myp [ Wed Jun 11, 2008 16:48 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Upcoming Racing Games on X360 |
Has anyone tried the 'Crash Time' demo on LIVE? What a joke. |
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| Author: | Trousers [ Wed Jun 11, 2008 16:53 ] |
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myoptika wrote: Has anyone tried the 'Crash Time' demo on LIVE? What a joke. I played it for about 5 minutes then deleted it. Worth a play for the accents though it has to be said. The rest of the game can go and fuck itself. ESPECIALLY the "music" which got turned off after about 20 seconds. |
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| Author: | Zardoz [ Wed Jun 11, 2008 16:57 ] |
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myoptika wrote: Has anyone tried the 'Crash Time' demo on LIVE? What a joke. Markg and I had a right old bubble when we played the demo. Fucking hilarious. |
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| Author: | Dudley [ Thu Jun 12, 2008 12:12 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Upcoming Racing Games on X360 |
Well they've posted my Nascar 09. I suspect only Myop will care but I'll report back. Myop - playing some more GRID and while I love huge tracts of what it does, the sponsorship and team stuff especially, there's just too many idiot races, inconsistent styles and the old "Start you near the back in short races" trick which knackers racing because you have to turn the difficulty down and it becomes "Can I pass this guy in 3 laps". Plus their LeMans implementation is a joke, it's too tricky to drive and laps are nearly a minute quicker than reality. £17.99 yes. £39.99? On reflection, no. |
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| Author: | myp [ Thu Jun 12, 2008 12:34 ] |
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Good, that decides it for me. I was looking forward to the Le Mans bit especially. 
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| Author: | Dudley [ Thu Jun 12, 2008 14:41 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Upcoming Racing Games on X360 |
Well, I've been doing roughly 3:30s in a Porsche 911 GT2 (I think, not far off certainly). The 2007 POLE for that class was a 4:04.185. |
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| Author: | markg [ Thu Jun 12, 2008 15:04 ] |
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Zardoz wrote: myoptika wrote: Has anyone tried the 'Crash Time' demo on LIVE? What a joke. Markg and I had a right old bubble when we played the demo. Fucking hilarious. I thought it was quite endearingly crap, I ended up feeling a bit sorry for it. I don't think I'll be rushing out to buy it though. "it's one of those jerks again" |
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| Author: | Dudley [ Thu Jun 12, 2008 19:14 ] |
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I so need to play this tonight. Sounds like something I'll pick up for amusement value for £5. In about 3 weeks. |
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| Author: | Zardoz [ Thu Jun 12, 2008 20:19 ] |
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Dudley wrote: Sounds like something I'll pick up for amusement value for £5. Play the demo and put the £5 towards absolutely anything else Duds. It's comedy gold how bad it is. |
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| Author: | Dudley [ Thu Jun 12, 2008 20:53 ] |
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See, I like really poor games  It's usually worth the £5 to occaisonally drag them out and say to people "They released this! Commercially! For £50!" |
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| Author: | Zardoz [ Thu Jun 12, 2008 21:19 ] |
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You're going to shit game heaven then
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| Author: | Dudley [ Thu Jun 12, 2008 21:25 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Upcoming Racing Games on X360 |
Yeh, Going to give it a try after the footie, I'd actually already downloaded on a "Ooh, looks like it's got cars in" basis. |
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| Author: | Zardoz [ Thu Jun 12, 2008 21:56 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Upcoming Racing Games on X360 |
I look forward to your review. |
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| Author: | Dudley [ Thu Jun 12, 2008 22:31 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Upcoming Racing Games on X360 |
Ok you're all mad, that was excellent fun. It doesn't handle that bad, it's quite different, the acting is INCREDIBLY funny, it makes no sense and it's actually quite pretty. By no means is that a gaming abortion. That said, if it's £50 rather than £25 they're "trippin". |
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| Author: | myp [ Thu Jun 12, 2008 22:35 ] |
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Right, I'm going to download and play it again. I just remember it being awful. |
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| Author: | Dudley [ Thu Jun 12, 2008 22:38 ] |
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Oh it's bad. But it's several steps better than I was led to expect. I suspect I'll pay a tenner for it and romp through the story mode having a decent laugh. Did run across one awful bug with the "jumps" race though that ended with me completing an 8 jump course with credit for 14 jumps. Synetic made the Mercedes-Benz World Racing games btw. |
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| Author: | Zardoz [ Fri Jun 13, 2008 9:35 ] |
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*Holds coat up for Dudley* |
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| Author: | Dudley [ Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:03 ] |
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Bah, ultimately, whether for the right or wrong (mostly wrong) reasons I had fun. Which is more than I did with, for instance, Fatal Inertia. |
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| Author: | CUS [ Sat Jun 14, 2008 2:37 ] |
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Yeah! |
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| Author: | AceAceBaby [ Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:01 ] |
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Ooh. Quote: ATARI REVS ITS ENGINES WITH THE ULTRA REALISTIC RACING EXPERIENCE ‘RACE PRO’ - Nothing Gets Closer to the Real Thrill of the Race Track on Xbox 360 this Autumn 2008 - LYON, FRANCE – 11 July 2008 – Atari is revving it up with the announcement of the ultra realistic racing video game RACE Pro, scheduled to speed into stores this autumn 2008 exclusively for the Xbox 360™ video game and entertainment system from Microsoft. Developed by renowned award-winning game developer SimBin, a leading creator of PC racing simulators, RACE Pro brings SimBin’s formidable skill and know-how to Xbox 360 for the very first time this autumn. RACE Pro recreates a breathtaking reality giving gamers the ultimate racing simulation experience, all powered by Lizard, SimBin’s own physics engine. With precision physics and handling, racers will feel every bend and burst of acceleration along with every emotion from pre-race tension in the pit lanes to the exhilaration of capturing the checker flag. RACE Pro provides unrivalled realism and deep immersion into the racing world through ultra realistic car models and official FIA championships and tracks. Putting players in the driving seats of their simulated racing careers, racers will have the opportunity to work their way up the leader boards through intense training and winning key races. RACE Pro has something for everyone, allowing players of all levels to pick up and play, while offering challenging tracks and advanced modes for the more experienced players. RACE Pro offers a wealth of cars ranging from 200 to over 1000 horse power, as well as a host of championships including WTCC (World Touring Car Championship), Formula 3000 and Formula BMW. GT cars from manufacturers including Aston Martin and Saleen take their place on the grid as well as production cars such as the Audi R8 and Dodge Viper SRT10. In addition, RACE Pro is exclusively bringing all the WTCC cars from manufacturers Alfa Romeo, BMW, Chevrolet and Seat to Xbox 360 for the very first time. For a blast of accessible fun, the Mini Cooper Challenge invites players of all abilities to take the wheel. Gamers and racing fans alike will experience the thrill of racing these powerful cars on 13 real life tracks covering all continents, of which Macau, Porto and Pau are exclusive to RACE Pro, and US tracks Laguna Seca and Road America are brand new to SimBin fans. “With five years worth of experience under SimBin’s belt, RACE Pro ensures a unique racing experience unlike anything seen before on console,” said Cyril Voiron, VP Brand Management, Worldwide Publishing, Atari. “Nothing gets you closer to the ultimate racing sensation than RACE Pro and Atari is proud to add this product to our holiday line-up.” “Having personally taken the leap from 20 years of championship racing to racing simulation development, I am really excited for SimBin to be taking its own leap from PC to Xbox 360,” said Henrik Roos, CEO, SimBin Studios AB. “We are proud to be taking this significant move with Atari, our trusted partner since our very first game.” Online play via Xbox Live® online game service and System Link support lets up to 12 players take on equally high-powered opponents and test their skills to the limit to reach the finish line ahead of the pack. For friends closer to home, the brand new ‘Hot Seat’ feature puts players in the driving seat for a limited amount of time before passing the controller to the next player and so on, demanding exceptionally quick reactions and precision racing from even the most seasoned drivers. Nothing gets closer than RACE Pro, the ultra real racing simulation game exclusive to Xbox 360, scheduled for release this autumn 2008. Simbin were born out of determined GPL/NR modders as I recall. It should be a good game for the racing  here.
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| Author: | markg [ Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:07 ] |
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Oh wow, GTR was ace. |
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