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Author:  Grim... [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:11 ]
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I didn't really like any of the Hitchhiker books.

Author:  MaliA [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:17 ]
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Zardoz wrote:
No, Peter Falk.


Awesome.

Author:  Zio [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:21 ]
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Grim... wrote:
I didn't really like any of the Hitchhiker books.


8) Get out!

Oh, I suppose you can't really, can you?

Fine. I'm leaving!

Author:  Zio [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:21 ]
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Back now.

Author:  Grim... [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:23 ]
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They were alright. I read the first one, and the one with the restaurant at the end of time.

I fail miserably at things geeks are meant to like: Star Wars, HHTTG and Monty Python don't really interest me much.

Author:  Zio [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:36 ]
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I've never really got on with HHGTTG 3 'Life, The Universe And Everything', but the other Adam's penned ones were great. This recent sixth one is really dull though, with Colfer seemingly intent on giving it authenticity by simply throwing in as many references to the previous novels as he can crowbar in. The spin-off 'Starship Titanic' written by Terry Jones was a bit shit also.

Author:  Zardoz [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:40 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Monty Python don't really interest me much.

... I ... what? WHAT?!

Author:  MaliA [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:44 ]
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Zardoz wrote:
Grim... wrote:
Monty Python don't really interest me much.

... I ... what? WHAT?!


I think it's massively overrated.

Author:  WTB [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:08 ]
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Is The Art of War actually readable today? And genuinely worth reading? I've always been put off by how old it is...

Author:  Zardoz [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:14 ]
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The original is a bit crumbly now, get a new paperback version.

It's a good toilet book.

Author:  Kern [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:46 ]
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MaliA wrote:
Zardoz wrote:
Grim... wrote:
Monty Python don't really interest me much.

... I ... what? WHAT?!


I think it's massively overrated.


Listening to people repeating favourite lines get tedious pretty quickly, but then we were all young once.

Author:  JBR [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:50 ]
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For fiction, I can't recommend Bel Canto, by Ann Patchett, enough. Seems like it's going to be a lovely fluffy thing, turns out to be funny, surprising and just great.

Author:  Zardoz [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:51 ]
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Kern wrote:
Listening to people repeating favourite lines get tedious pretty quickly, but then we were all young once.

Agreed. But watching the actual show when I was young was mind blowingly chucklesome.

Author:  Mr Dave [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:56 ]
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Grim... wrote:
They were alright. I read the first one, and the one with the restaurant at the end of time.

I fail miserably at things geeks are meant to like: Star Wars, HHTTG and Monty Python don't really interest me much.


Star Wars was pap.
HGTTG was ok. Some good stuff in there, but hardly wall to wall Awesome.
Monty Python, again, had good stuff, but intermingled with less good stuff, and things that have been repeated so many times they've got much worse than not funny.

Author:  DavPaz [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:00 ]
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Mr Dave wrote:
Star Wars was pap.

May be opening a can of worms here, but Star Wars always was and always will be, a kids film.

Author:  Trooper [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:42 ]
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DavPaz wrote:
Mr Dave wrote:
Star Wars was pap.

May be opening a can of worms here, but Star Wars always was and always will be, a kids film.


Absolutely. Video games are just for kids too. :D

Author:  Zardoz [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:43 ]
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And sweeties.

Author:  Trooper [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:48 ]
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And puppies.

Author:  Zardoz [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:52 ]
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And Flat tops.

Author:  Zio [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:00 ]
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Mr Dave wrote:
Grim... wrote:
They were alright. I read the first one, and the one with the restaurant at the end of time.

I fail miserably at things geeks are meant to like: Star Wars, HHTTG and Monty Python don't really interest me much.


Star Wars was pap.
HGTTG was ok. Some good stuff in there, but hardly wall to wall Awesome.
Monty Python, again, had good stuff, but intermingled with less good stuff, and things that have been repeated so many times they've got much worse than not funny.


I'm intrigued to know what exists that you do find wall to wall awesome? It's not that I'm calling you a miserable bastard, I'm just implying that I think you are a miserable bastard.

ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view!
:kiss: :D


That said, I've always thought the Indiana Jones films were a much better Lucasfilm creation than the Star Wars movies.

Author:  Zardoz [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:03 ]
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Zio wrote:
I'm intrigued to know what exists that you do find wall to wall awesome?

He likes dancing to not music.

Author:  Malabelm [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:09 ]
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Trooper wrote:
Freakonomics is great


I've just started reading this, and it's great so far. I love reading about counter-intuitive psychology, and this is absolutely full of the stuff.

I've also downloaded The Art of War, seeing as it's a free one on Project Gutenberg. I think I'll read that one next.

I'm having trouble finding Mick Foley's Have a Nice Day in eBook format anywhere, so I'll probably end up buying a physical copy of that, unless someone can point me in the right direction. I'm trying to reduce house clutter at the moment, you see.

Author:  WTB [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:20 ]
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Zardoz wrote:
The original is a bit crumbly now, get a new paperback version.


So I couldn't wipe my arse on it?

Author:  Kern [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:24 ]
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For dabbling in new subjects, I quite like the OUP 'Very Short Introduction' series. They're just the right length and level to satisfy my curiosity.

List here: http://ukcatalogue.oup.com/category/aca ... ral/vsi.do

Author:  Mr Dave [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:26 ]
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Zio wrote:
Mr Dave wrote:
Grim... wrote:
They were alright. I read the first one, and the one with the restaurant at the end of time.

I fail miserably at things geeks are meant to like: Star Wars, HHTTG and Monty Python don't really interest me much.


Star Wars was pap.
HGTTG was ok. Some good stuff in there, but hardly wall to wall Awesome.
Monty Python, again, had good stuff, but intermingled with less good stuff, and things that have been repeated so many times they've got much worse than not funny.


I'm intrigued to know what exists that you do find wall to wall awesome? It's not that I'm calling you a miserable bastard, I'm just implying that I think you are a miserable bastard.
Filim wise? Off the top of my head...

Ghostbusters films, T'original Blues Brothers (Not a musical!), Shawshank, Evil Dead 2, Dude where's my car.

(One of those is a cunningly concealed horrible, horrible lie.)

Author:  Trooper [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:36 ]
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Yeah, i never really got into Blues Brothers either.

Author:  WTB [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:44 ]
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Blues Brothers is definitely my least favourite of that bunch. Dave is such an arsehole.

Anyway, Dude Where's My Car was potentially awesome, but they changed the script to make it child-friendly and completely fucked the film up - I heard. Is this true or did I hear a moronic rumour from a moron?

Author:  Malc [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:49 ]
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Monty Python is just as funny now as it was when I first saw it.

Star Wars is still pretty good now despite having seen it at least 100 times (as kids we had a 3 hour VHS set to long play that had superman, star wars and (I think) the goonies on it - taped of the tv, which my brother and I watched practically every other weekend for several years)

HHGTTG I've read twice, I went to read it again recently, and got distracted.

Oh, and Blues Brothers is almost perfect.

Malc

Author:  WTB [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:49 ]
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I've just done some research and I may be very wrong. Apparently it is based on the script for the "live action" Beavis and Butthead film that was never made.

Author:  Grim... [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:51 ]
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Zio wrote:
Grim... wrote:
They were alright. I read the first one, and the one with the restaurant at the end of time.

I fail miserably at things geeks are meant to like: Star Wars, HHTTG and Monty Python don't really interest me much.

I'm intrigued to know what exists that you do find wall to wall awesome? It's not that I'm calling you a miserable bastard, I'm just implying that I think you are a miserable bastard.

Geeky things, or just "things"?

Author:  Zio [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 14:01 ]
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Mr Dave wrote:
Ghostbusters films, T'original Blues Brothers (Not a musical!), Shawshank, Evil Dead 2, Dude where's my car.

(One of those is a cunningly concealed horrible, horrible lie.)


I think I love you again.

Well, far from giving up on The Wasp Factory halfway through chapter 2, I'm now 3/4 of the way through the whole thing a mere 24 hours after starting it. For me, an incredibly slow reader, that's pretty good going. It's horrible though and I swear it's put me in a bit of a stinker of a mood.

Author:  TheAlbin0Kid [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 18:10 ]
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Malabar Front wrote:
I'm having trouble finding Mick Foley's Have a Nice Day in eBook format anywhere, so I'll probably end up buying a physical copy of that, unless someone can point me in the right direction. I'm trying to reduce house clutter at the moment, you see.

If you can wait till next time I visit mummy and daddy you can have my copy.

Author:  TheAlbin0Kid [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 18:14 ]
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Malabar Front wrote:
I love reading about counter-intuitive psychology, and this is absolutely full of the stuff.

I didn't mention this before because it is a very baseball-centric book, but "Moneyball" by Michael Beane is an outstanding account of how one of baseball's poorest teams tore up all the accepted baseball wisdom around the turn of the century about what makes a great baseball player and managed to put together a team of cheap nobodies that competed for championships year in year out. I still think it is a good read even if you don't have much idea about baseball, but I could be wrong... but it has elements that will appeal to you I think.

Author:  sinister agent [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 19:20 ]
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This am good. It am about the history of tea and the British Empire. Very interesting without being too heavy or too fluffy.

Author:  Malabelm [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 19:42 ]
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TheAlbin0Kid wrote:
If you can wait till next time I visit mummy and daddy you can have my copy.


Sure, ta. Bring it to the Lakes if you've got it by then.

TheAlbin0Kid wrote:
Malabar Front wrote:
I love reading about counter-intuitive psychology, and this is absolutely full of the stuff.

I didn't mention this before because it is a very baseball-centric book, but "Moneyball" by Michael Beane is an outstanding account of how one of baseball's poorest teams tore up all the accepted baseball wisdom around the turn of the century about what makes a great baseball player and managed to put together a team of cheap nobodies that competed for championships year in year out. I still think it is a good read even if you don't have much idea about baseball, but I could be wrong... but it has elements that will appeal to you I think.


That sounds really good, too. I'll add it to my list.

sinister agent wrote:
This am good. It am about the history of tea and the British Empire. Very interesting without being too heavy or too fluffy.


Good stuff. List++

Author:  WTB [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 20:01 ]
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Is that tea one available in the UK? Silly yanks!

Author:  TheAlbin0Kid [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 20:04 ]
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Malabar Front wrote:
TheAlbin0Kid wrote:
Malabar Front wrote:
I love reading about counter-intuitive psychology, and this is absolutely full of the stuff.

I didn't mention this before because it is a very baseball-centric book, but "Moneyball" by Michael Beane is an outstanding account of how one of baseball's poorest teams tore up all the accepted baseball wisdom around the turn of the century about what makes a great baseball player and managed to put together a team of cheap nobodies that competed for championships year in year out. I still think it is a good read even if you don't have much idea about baseball, but I could be wrong... but it has elements that will appeal to you I think.


That sounds really good, too. I'll add it to my list.

Just a note to say it is by Michael Lewis, not Michael Beane... I confused the author with the main guy talked about in the book, Billy Beane :facepalm: Alarmingly, it is a mistake many critics of the book have also made, which is bizarre :nerd:

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 20:34 ]
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I read the entirety of Never Let Me Go by Kazuo Ishiguro on the plane to America in one sitting. It's fucking brilliant. Don't read anything at all about it before reading it though.

Author:  Dimrill [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 20:38 ]
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But I just have!

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 20:39 ]
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Ok, don't read anything else! Including this post!

Author:  sinister agent [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 22:01 ]
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Wogan'sTrouserBulge wrote:
Is that tea one available in the UK? Silly yanks!


It should be. I read it when I was working in a library here. He (Roy Moxham) also wrote a book about the great hedge of India - something of an almost forgotten mega-project that probably would have disappeared if he hadn't stumbled across an obscure mention of it and followed it up. It was basically an attempt to control smuggling in India, but it's obviously more complicated than that.

The tea one was a bit more my cu... my thing, though.

Author:  sdg [ Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:51 ]
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Non fiction Blood River by a journalist for the Guardian or something. He recreates the trip Stanley made along the Congo at rather a lot of risk to himself. Very interesting.

Author:  Malabelm [ Thu Jul 29, 2010 22:55 ]
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superdupergill wrote:
Non fiction Blood River by a journalist for the Guardian or something. He recreates the trip Stanley made along the Congo at rather a lot of risk to himself. Very interesting.


That sounds good. List me do.

I've finished Freakonomics, which was excellent, particularly all the info about abortions lowering crime rates.

I've just started Moneyball, which is again turning out to be quite excellent. I quite like the guy's writing style, too, so might check out some more of his books when I'm done.

Author:  WTB [ Thu Jul 29, 2010 23:23 ]
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sinister agent wrote:
Wogan'sTrouserBulge wrote:
Is that tea one available in the UK? Silly yanks!


It should be. I read it when I was working in a library here. He (Roy Moxham) also wrote a book about the great hedge of India - something of an almost forgotten mega-project that probably would have disappeared if he hadn't stumbled across an obscure mention of it and followed it up. It was basically an attempt to control smuggling in India, but it's obviously more complicated than that.

The tea one was a bit more my cu... my thing, though.


Ah coolio! I'm definitely gonna hunt it down - always been fascinated by India and the Empire. Love me a bit o' Kipling.

Author:  TheAlbin0Kid [ Thu Jul 29, 2010 23:38 ]
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Wogan'sTrouserBulge wrote:
Love me a bit o' Kipling.

Me too... from chocolate slices to cherry bakewells, he is most definitely the man :)

Author:  WTB [ Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:43 ]
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Country Slices are the best, and don't you dare say any different!

Author:  Malabelm [ Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:49 ]
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Wogan'sTrouserBulge wrote:
Country Slices are the best, and don't you dare say any different!


Yep.

Author:  TheAlbin0Kid [ Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:03 ]
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Wogan'sTrouserBulge wrote:
Country Slices are the best, and don't you dare say any different!

Fear not, they are included within the spectrum of tast-o-rama :metul:

Author:  WTB [ Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:08 ]
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Good chap!

Author:  Curiosity [ Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:40 ]
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DBSnappa wrote:
Curiosity wrote:
Just remembered 'Blink' by Malcolm Gladwell. That's a good non-fiction type thing. He also wrote (and coined the phrase) 'The Tipping Point', which is supposed to be very good as well. I have not read that one.


I've got Blink and Tipping Point signed by him. I'd be absolutely gobsmacked if he coined the phrase "tipping point". I don't think I could recommend either of these books though, TBH as the points get laboured too much for my liking. It feels like an interesting but lengthy magazine article that's been stretched too far, but it's probably harsh to single out Gladwell for that — it seems to be a problem that infects that whole subsection of "message" books, be it Richard Dawkins, Michael Moore, George Monbiot et al — they descend into repetitive examples ad nauseum long after anybody with an IQ higher than room temperature would have got the point.


He probably didn't coin the phrase, but it certainly entered the general consciousness as a result of the book. Much like Douglas Coupland and 'Generation X'.

I agree to an extent about what Gladwell did in his book(s), and found the exact same thing with Freakonomics. I enjoyed both of them, but there was a lot of padding there amongst the interesting things... and what's more, I don't believe half of what either of them say anyway.

I'm currently reading "13 Things That Don't Make Sense" by Michael Brooks. It's a fun scientific book about 13 of the greatest unanswered questions in science.

Such as "Why do we die?", "Why do we reproduce via sexual means when it appears to be evolutionarily backwards?", "Why can't we see most of the Universe (what is dark matter? Does it really exist?)?", stuff about cold fusion, cosmological constants and so on and so forth.

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