Political Banter and Debate Thread

NervousPete · **Posted:** Fri Jun 24, 2016 13:11

Agent Starling wrote:

Oh get a room, you pair. :luv:

We need an Odd Couple style sitcom involving them, stat!

myp · **Posted:** Fri Jun 24, 2016 13:13

Cras wrote:

Lonewolves wrote:

He was either lying that he wanted a Remain vote or utterly incompetent. He ran the most feeble campaign imaginable.

No, he did exactly what he could have been expected to do. He's cynical of the EU, and justabout wants to remain in as the lesser of two evils. And that's exactly the campaign he ran. Yes, it was pretty disastrous for the remain cause, but it was exactly the opposite of lying or cynical. He was completely honest, and that unfortunately sunk labour support for Remain.

Very good points.

Cavey · **Posted:** Fri Jun 24, 2016 13:16

NervousPete wrote:

Agent Starling wrote:

Oh get a room, you pair. :luv:

We need an Odd Couple style sitcom involving them, stat!

Hey, you leave my Myp alone, mister!

Curiosity · **Posted:** Sat Jun 25, 2016 11:19

Let's just promote Sadiq Khan. I like him.

myp · **Posted:** Sat Jun 25, 2016 11:38

Curiosity wrote:

Let's just promote Sadiq Khan. I like him.

President of the Greater London nation state.

markg · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 16580

Good luck with that after we've blown up all the roads and blocked the Thames.

Mr Dave · **Posted:** Sun Jun 26, 2016 1:58

Hillary Benn apparently sacked...

ApplePieOfDestiny · **Joined:** 17th Dec, 2008 **Posts:** 8293

I'm quite impressed with the dignity of the vast number of Corbyn voters coming out and saying "We got it wrong". Takes a lot for people to do that within politics, even at the supporter level.

Which does somewhat bring into question the huge mandate that he still claims to hold.

MaliA · **Posted:** Sun Jun 26, 2016 9:53

MaliA wrote:

I would be surprised if Corbyn makes it to 2017.

Recalibrating.

..makes it to August.

Anonymous X · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 2046

Saint Jeremy of Hezbollah helped dig the grave of the United Kingdom. He more than deserves his fate.

asfish · **Joined:** 5th Dec, 2010 **Posts:** 3353

MaliA wrote:

I would be surprised if Corbyn makes it to 2017.

Recalibrating.

..makes it to August.

Maybe early July now

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-36570120

Curiosity · **Posted:** Sun Jun 26, 2016 10:57

Blairites don't want Corbyn to recommend that Blair gets tried for war crimes. Only two weeks until Chilcott Report comes out.

Cavey · **Posted:** Sun Jun 26, 2016 12:48

asfish wrote:

MaliA wrote:

I would be surprised if Corbyn makes it to 2017.

Recalibrating.

..makes it to August.

Maybe early July now

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-36570120

Early July? He'll be lucky.

Curiosity · **Posted:** Mon Jun 27, 2016 10:15

Whadda we reckon for new leaders?

As boring as Johnson and Benn/Burnham?

I've gone for Miliband (D) and May, for the lolz.

myp · **Posted:** Mon Jun 27, 2016 10:18

Boris Johnson and Jeremy Corbyn (after another successful leadership election).

Mimi · **Joined:** 27th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 25727

Johnson and David Miliband.

It's time to roll out the Miliband Prime.

myp · **Posted:** Mon Jun 27, 2016 10:33

Mimi wrote:

Johnson and David Miliband.

It's time to roll out the Miliband Prime.

I just can't see Labour members voting for David Miliband. He's very much a right-wing Blairite and they did very poorly last time. Labour's member base is much more left-wing than most of their MPs these days.

Mimi · **Joined:** 27th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 25727

I think he may adjust to left-middle labour, because he's a good diplomat. I also think a lot of the member base will shift now, through necessity.

Cavey · **Posted:** Mon Jun 27, 2016 10:41

Corby's fooked.
Watson's just told him to resign.

Cavey · **Posted:** Mon Jun 27, 2016 10:42

Perhaps it's now the turn of Andy "who's nicked my spine" Burnham?

markg · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 16580

Cavey wrote:

Corby's fooked.
Watson's just told him to resign.

Oh wow. Yeah, he's done.

Mimi · **Joined:** 27th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 25727

Hmmm... I did wonder, but I don't think he'd be very effective. They need a good show of leadership. He has nice eyelashes, though, but they always make him look like he has been crying.

myp · **Posted:** Mon Jun 27, 2016 10:58

Cavey wrote:

Corby's fooked.
Watson's just told him to resign.

Weird, reading different news to me. I've read he's not resigning and hasn't asked Corbyn to quit. :shrug:

Cavey · **Posted:** Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:00

Lonewolves wrote:

Cavey wrote:

Corby's fooked.
Watson's just told him to resign.

Weird, reading different news to me. I've read he's not resigning and hasn't asked Corbyn to quit. :shrug:

According to the BBC? :shrug:

markg · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 16580

The BBC have just changed the title of their article a few minutes ago.

myp · **Posted:** Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:06

markg wrote:

The BBC have just changed the title of their article a few minutes ago.

Grim... · **Posted:** Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:28

Lonewolves wrote:

markg wrote:

The BBC have just changed the title of their article a few minutes ago.

Still here, though: http://bbc.in/28YHCpZ

myp · **Posted:** Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:33

Grim... wrote:

Lonewolves wrote:

markg wrote:

The BBC have just changed the title of their article a few minutes ago.

Still here, though: http://bbc.in/28YHCpZ

Still wrong though, technically.

Grim... · **Posted:** Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:34

Can we have the Lib Dems back as a feasible options, please?

myp · **Posted:** Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:35

Grim... wrote:

Can we have the Lib Dems back as a feasible options, please?

Suddenly 2010-2015 is looking utopian in comparison to now.

Nick Clegg's thoughts before the vote: https://inews.co.uk/opinion/comment/wil ... ote-leave/

Mimi · **Joined:** 27th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 25727

I know. I didn't think I'd ever see myself voting luv dem again, but yesterday I found myself hoping that they'd pull themselves together enough for the next GE for me to vote for them.

Malc · **Posted:** Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:40

luv dem, luv dem, dem girls, dem girls, we all luv dem!

myp · **Posted:** Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:41

Mimi wrote:

I know. I didn't think I'd ever see myself voting luv dem again, but yesterday I found myself hoping that they'd pull themselves together enough for the next GE for me to vote for them.

luv dem Lib Dems.

With Clegg gone (and now looking much better in retrospect) I think they can win a good amount of seats in a snap GE.

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38519

Right now, I'd vote Lib Dem.

markg · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 16580

I'd barely even be able to muster the enthusiasm to vote for anyone. It feels utterly pointless.

Mr Dave · **Posted:** Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:46

Lonewolves wrote:

Mimi wrote:

I know. I didn't think I'd ever see myself voting luv dem again, but yesterday I found myself hoping that they'd pull themselves together enough for the next GE for me to vote for them.

luv dem Lib Dems.

With Clegg gone (and now looking much better in retrospect) I think they can win a good amount of seats in a snap GE.

I may be alone in thinking that Clegg et al actually did a pretty good job while a minority member, but no one wanted to cheerlead for them.

myp · **Posted:** Mon Jun 27, 2016 13:00

Mr Dave wrote:

Lonewolves wrote:

Mimi wrote:

I know. I didn't think I'd ever see myself voting luv dem again, but yesterday I found myself hoping that they'd pull themselves together enough for the next GE for me to vote for them.

luv dem Lib Dems.

With Clegg gone (and now looking much better in retrospect) I think they can win a good amount of seats in a snap GE.

I may be alone in thinking that Clegg et al actually did a pretty good job while a minority member, but no one wanted to cheerlead for them.

No, I defended the Lib Dems and Clegg for five years, saying imagine what it'd be like with a majority Tory govt.

Now we know.

MrChris · **Joined:** 1st Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 30498

Ditto.

I just wish Clegg had been more ruthless in slagging the Tories off at the time to make that point. "Look what they wanted to do, which they would have if it weren't for us"

markg · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 16580

Lonewolves wrote:

Mr Dave wrote:

Lonewolves wrote:

Mimi wrote:

I know. I didn't think I'd ever see myself voting luv dem again, but yesterday I found myself hoping that they'd pull themselves together enough for the next GE for me to vote for them.

luv dem Lib Dems.

With Clegg gone (and now looking much better in retrospect) I think they can win a good amount of seats in a snap GE.

I may be alone in thinking that Clegg et al actually did a pretty good job while a minority member, but no one wanted to cheerlead for them.

No, I defended the Lib Dems and Clegg for five years, saying imagine what it'd be like with a majority Tory govt.

Now we know.

I found your video on eharmony:

Mr Dave · **Posted:** Mon Jun 27, 2016 13:43

Lonewolves wrote:

Mr Dave wrote:

Lonewolves wrote:

Mimi wrote:

I know. I didn't think I'd ever see myself voting luv dem again, but yesterday I found myself hoping that they'd pull themselves together enough for the next GE for me to vote for them.

luv dem Lib Dems.

With Clegg gone (and now looking much better in retrospect) I think they can win a good amount of seats in a snap GE.

I may be alone in thinking that Clegg et al actually did a pretty good job while a minority member, but no one wanted to cheerlead for them.

No, I defended the Lib Dems and Clegg for five years, saying imagine what it'd be like with a majority Tory govt.

Now we know.

I was more talking about in the press.

Zardoz · **Posted:** Mon Jun 27, 2016 16:36

markg wrote:

I found your video on eharmony:

myp · **Posted:** Mon Jun 27, 2016 16:42

That is me yes. I want all the Lib Dems in a basket.

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32621

Lonewolves wrote:

want all the Lib Dems in a basket.

Wouldn't have to be a very big one.

myp · **Posted:** Mon Jun 27, 2016 16:50

Doctor Glyndwr wrote:

Lonewolves wrote:

want all the Lib Dems in a basket.

Wouldn't have to be a very big one.

OMG do you want some aloe for that burn? Lib Dems? Do you?

Because there's not many of them

ApplePieOfDestiny · **Joined:** 17th Dec, 2008 **Posts:** 8293

If there is a pre Article 50 GE, Corbyn doesn't step down, and the Lib Dems run their manifesto pledge of ignoring the referendum, there may be a fair few more of them.

Cavey · **Posted:** Mon Jun 27, 2016 17:08

Doctor Glyndwr wrote:

Lonewolves wrote:

want all the Lib Dems in a basket.

Wouldn't have to be a very big one.

Title of your sex tape

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38519

ApplePieOfDestiny wrote:

If there is a pre Article 50 GE, Corbyn doesn't step down, and the Lib Dems run their manifesto pledge of ignoring the referendum, there may be a fair few more of them.

Fingers crossed

Curiosity · **Posted:** Mon Jun 27, 2016 19:05

Once again, Clegg is the person making the most sense. Whilst I don't think he was as bad in power as is made out, I wish he could have been more forthright and better at making deals than he was. He seems much better in opposition!

Curiosity · **Posted:** Tue Jun 28, 2016 16:57

Corbyn just took a shoeing in the vote of his own MPs.

172 no confidence vs 40 in his favour.

4 spoilt ballots casting doubt over the Labour Party and their ability to put a cross in a box.

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32621

Corbyn is refusing to stand down, has to be listed on a leadership ballot, and still enjoys lots of support from the party members. He's actually untouchable. So: the Labour party is dead, right? I don't see how this schism can mean anything else.

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