oooh oooh ooh.... Scat-pods LOLZOR
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| Author: | Sir Taxalot [ Tue Jun 10, 2008 17:53 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Cheap" iPhone |
oooh oooh ooh.... Scat-pods LOLZOR
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| Author: | myp [ Tue Jun 10, 2008 21:11 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Cheap" iPhone |
Grim... wrote: Really. /shouts Oh, Myoptika? Dimrill asked me to do it. |
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| Author: | Curiosity [ Wed Jun 11, 2008 17:27 ] |
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myoptika wrote: Grim... wrote: Really. /shouts Oh, Myoptika? Dimrill asked me to do it. Please tell me that you don't do everything that Dimrill asks you to do... |
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| Author: | Scarysheep3000 [ Wed Jun 11, 2008 17:33 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Cheap" iPhone |
Oh man! Do I get a lovely 3G iPhone OR the N95 8Gb... Grim...? Help?! |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Wed Jun 11, 2008 17:37 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Cheap" iPhone |
Depends what you want to do with it. N95 plus points (off the top of my head) - price(?), camera, MMS, buttons, masses of software, remote synch, ability to act as a wireless access point (I found that out today), can pretend to be a lightsabre. iPhone plus points - pretty, great UI, great email stuff, better music player (although not by much, if you don't care about the swichy interface), better web browsing, will impress your mates who don't know about phones. The N95 is the better phone, but the iPhone is the better toy, if that makes any sense. |
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| Author: | Nik [ Wed Jun 11, 2008 18:34 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Cheap" iPhone |
Grim... wrote: N95 plus points ... can pretend to be a lightsabre. How? Ah: http://www.symbian-freeware.com/get-lig ... a-n95.html |
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| Author: | GazChap [ Wed Jun 11, 2008 19:00 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Cheap" iPhone |
See, my opinion is the opposite of Grim...'s. The N95 is the better toy (because of all the extra bits like software, remote sync, wireless AP abilities and pretending to be a light sabre) whereas the iPhone is the better phone because the actual phone-y bits of the iPhone are far, far better. Contacts and messaging (albeit without MMS) and the actual dialer itself are, IMO, much nicer on the iPhone. |
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| Author: | Mr Russell [ Fri Jun 13, 2008 18:54 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Cheap" iPhone |
I've now stuck my iPhone on ebay. With the newer model coming out I suspect I may get less back than I paid for it, but I really cannot justify the expense now. Still, it was nice to have a lovely little toy while it lasted! |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Mon Jul 07, 2008 18:29 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Cheap" iPhone |
Bloody O2! 
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| Author: | ElephantBanjoGnome [ Mon Jul 07, 2008 18:44 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Cheap" iPhone |
oooh Dr. Gaywood, you're so angry. 
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Mon Jul 07, 2008 18:45 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Cheap" iPhone |
ComicalGnomes wrote: oooh Dr. Gaywood, you're so angry. Takes one to know one!
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| Author: | kalmar [ Mon Jul 07, 2008 22:04 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Cheap" iPhone |
Have they been hacked yet? |
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| Author: | pupil [ Thu Aug 21, 2008 13:14 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Cheap" iPhone |
Crikey! This looks a bit good and possible "cheap" alternative to an iPhone (and sounds even better than an iPhone too): http://www.mobile-phones-uk.org.uk/sams ... a-i900.htm |
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| Author: | myp [ Thu Aug 21, 2008 13:16 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Cheap" iPhone |
It's by Samsung, though. *shudders* |
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| Author: | Cras [ Thu Aug 21, 2008 13:32 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Cheap" iPhone |
myoptika wrote: It's by Samsung, though. *shudders* My d900i is the greatest phone I've ever owned. |
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| Author: | GazChap [ Thu Aug 21, 2008 13:38 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Cheap" iPhone |
And runs on Windows Mobile *double shudders* |
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| Author: | myp [ Thu Aug 21, 2008 13:39 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Cheap" iPhone |
Craster wrote: myoptika wrote: It's by Samsung, though. *shudders* My d900i is the greatest phone I've ever owned. I've owned two Samsungs and they were both rubbish. I should've learnt the first time. |
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| Author: | CraigGrannell [ Thu Aug 21, 2008 14:46 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Cheap" iPhone |
GazChap wrote: And runs on Windows Mobile *double shudders* Quite. From the review: Quote: The only issue is the Windows Mobile operating system, which is admittedly very powerful, but is not the most stable operating system ever invented. That's a pretty fucking big issue. The whole point about iPhone is the system, not the tech., which isn't anything special—rather like Macs in general, really. |
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| Author: | mrbogus [ Thu Aug 21, 2008 17:13 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Cheap" iPhone |
CraigGrannell wrote: Quite. From the review: Quote: The only issue is the Windows Mobile operating system, which is admittedly very powerful, but is not the most stable operating system ever invented. I guess you haven't tried iPhone firmware 2.x yet, then. *Triple shudders* |
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| Author: | Zio [ Thu Aug 21, 2008 19:56 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Cheap" iPhone |
mrbogus wrote: CraigGrannell wrote: Quite. From the review: Quote: The only issue is the Windows Mobile operating system, which is admittedly very powerful, but is not the most stable operating system ever invented. I guess you haven't tried iPhone firmware 2.x yet, then. *Triple shudders* I'm actually not having any problems at all with iPhone firmware 2(.01). Other than the fact that it sometimes goes a bit slow when I'm typing out a text message. But that's infinitely prefereble to the version 1.xx firmware, where half the songs I had on it wouldn't play all the way through. |
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| Author: | Plissken [ Thu Aug 21, 2008 20:42 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Cheap" iPhone |
Bugs in the iPhone can be fixed. The design of Windows Mobile is fundamentally broken from the start. Stuff like the TyTN II and Advantage are really nice bits of kit held back by awful software. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Thu Aug 21, 2008 22:39 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Cheap" iPhone |
Two words, people. Copy. Paste. |
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| Author: | Nik [ Fri Aug 22, 2008 8:32 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Cheap" iPhone |
Grim... wrote: Two words, people. Copy. Paste. I've only just found out how to do that on the N95, which doesn't seem to have the most stable OS in the world. I still love it though. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Fri Aug 22, 2008 9:05 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Cheap" iPhone |
While it's a massive oversight on Apple's part, I didn't think it would be too bad because someone would just write an app that fixes it. Turns out that you're not allowed to have iPhone apps that run in the background, or that integrate with each other 
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| Author: | CraigGrannell [ Fri Aug 22, 2008 11:28 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Cheap" iPhone |
Copy and paste is on Apple's to-do list, but isn't a priority, apparently. The reality is probably more like Apple's trying to figure out a decent and intuitive gesture system for it. Personally, I'd rather Apple took longer and got it right, since once it's set, that's it. |
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| Author: | kalmar [ Fri Aug 22, 2008 11:31 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Cheap" iPhone |
CraigGrannell wrote: Copy and paste is on Apple's to-do list, but isn't a priority, apparently. The reality is probably more like Apple's trying to figure out a decent and intuitive gesture system for it. Personally, I'd rather Apple took longer and got it right, since once it's set, that's it. Yep. I can't personally think of a good way of doing it other than bringing up a context menu if you hold your finger down, like the terminal app does. It'd be really hard to avoid mixing it up with the zoom and pan gestures otherwise. |
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| Author: | kalmar [ Sun Sep 14, 2008 11:24 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Cheap" iPhone |
mrbogus wrote: CraigGrannell wrote: Quite. From the review: Quote: The only issue is the Windows Mobile operating system, which is admittedly very powerful, but is not the most stable operating system ever invented. I guess you haven't tried iPhone firmware 2.x yet, then. *Triple shudders* 2.1 is now out. I recommend it. Upgrade to iTunes 8, let it update your iPhone firmware and then run "quickpwn" to jailbreak it if you want. Seems to have solved a lot of the slowness and stability problems that came in with 2.0. What's your favorite appstore app? 
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| Author: | throughsilver [ Sun Sep 14, 2008 18:40 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Cheap" iPhone |
kalmar wrote: 2.1 is now out. I recommend it. Upgrade to iTunes 8, let it update your iPhone firmware and then run "quickpwn" to jailbreak it if you want. Seems to have solved a lot of the slowness and stability problems that came in with 2.0. Cool. What's iTunes 8 like? Some folk have told me it wiped their iPhones... 
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| Author: | kalmar [ Sun Sep 14, 2008 18:42 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Cheap" iPhone |
throughsilver wrote: kalmar wrote: 2.1 is now out. I recommend it. Upgrade to iTunes 8, let it update your iPhone firmware and then run "quickpwn" to jailbreak it if you want. Seems to have solved a lot of the slowness and stability problems that came in with 2.0. Cool. What's iTunes 8 like? Some folk have told me it wiped their iPhones... Seems about the same apart from the addition of the scary "genius bar" which tells you which vital tunes you are missing, and offers to buy them for you with one click 
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| Author: | Sheepeh [ Sun Sep 14, 2008 22:00 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Cheap" iPhone |
throughsilver wrote: kalmar wrote: 2.1 is now out. I recommend it. Upgrade to iTunes 8, let it update your iPhone firmware and then run "quickpwn" to jailbreak it if you want. Seems to have solved a lot of the slowness and stability problems that came in with 2.0. Cool. What's iTunes 8 like? Some folk have told me it wiped their iPhones... http://cultofmac.com/first-impressions-itunes-8/2753 I refer you to our good friend Craig Grannell's iTunes 8 review. |
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| Author: | CraigGrannell [ Mon Sep 15, 2008 0:01 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Cheap" iPhone |
Sheepeh wrote: I refer you to our good friend Craig Grannell's iTunes 8 review. The fiver's in the post. (By the way, I hope you all enjoy the ratings system, which apparently baffled a few people.) |
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| Author: | Plissken [ Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:09 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Cheap" iPhone |
I've heard bad things about iTunes 8 on Vista, and seeing as I'm happily running Vista 64-bit, I suspect it will be a cold day in hell before it runs reliably on it. 7.7 has a lovely redraw bug for a start. |
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| Author: | CraigGrannell [ Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:48 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Cheap" iPhone |
iTunes 8 on Windows offered lots of BSOD 'fun'. Apple's since fixed this, apparently, and there's now a happy happy update. It has to be said, Apple's QC has gone to shit this past year. |
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| Author: | Plissken [ Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:10 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Cheap" iPhone |
Might well wait for a .1 or .05 update. I've only just built this machine - I don't want to break it already. |
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| Author: | mrbogus [ Mon Sep 15, 2008 12:01 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Cheap" iPhone |
CraigGrannell wrote: iTunes 8 on Windows offered lots of BSOD 'fun'. Apple's since fixed this, apparently, and there's now a happy happy update. It has to be said, Apple's QC has gone to shit this past year.  Since the release of Leopard, yeah. I still believe they're horribly overstretched now that they're trying to run so many different businesses (computer maker, OS manufacturer, software developer, phone manufacturer, music distributor and media player manufacturer). |
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| Author: | throughsilver [ Tue Sep 16, 2008 20:48 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Cheap" iPhone |
Sheepeh wrote: throughsilver wrote: kalmar wrote: 2.1 is now out. I recommend it. Upgrade to iTunes 8, let it update your iPhone firmware and then run "quickpwn" to jailbreak it if you want. Seems to have solved a lot of the slowness and stability problems that came in with 2.0. Cool. What's iTunes 8 like? Some folk have told me it wiped their iPhones... http://cultofmac.com/first-impressions-itunes-8/2753 I refer you to our good friend Craig Grannell's iTunes 8 review. Nice one, thanks. Funnily enough, as I was reading about grid view taking over from gorgeous album stream, my new iTunes 8 popped up with... grid view. Now I just have to wait a million hours for it to 'process' the album art that was on 7.  [edit] Oh, cover flow is there. Nice one. |
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| Author: | CraigGrannell [ Tue Sep 16, 2008 22:11 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Cheap" iPhone |
Yeah, Cover Flow's not gone—it's Album View that's been replaced by Grid View. And Album View can be replicated by expanding the artwork column in List View. It's a pretty good compromise, really. And, for what it's worth, it took iTunes 8 here about five minutes to deal with everything it had to for my 12,000+ items. Grid View's artwork was done automatically, with little lag. |
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| Author: | throughsilver [ Tue Sep 16, 2008 22:15 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Cheap" iPhone |
Maybe I'm an idiot, but have they changed preferences for ripping CDs? Not that I ever change the method from Apple Lossless (apart from when I have to rip a WAV in order to chop it in Audacity), but I'm a bit OCD and have to check it's on Lossless every so often. Because, you know, looking at the Bitrate column would be too easy.  [edit] And maybe I'm even more of an idiot, but is it now impossible to right-click on a cover in Cover Flow? |
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| Author: | CraigGrannell [ Tue Sep 16, 2008 23:26 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Cheap" iPhone |
Was that ever possible? If it was, it isn't now. As for the prefs, the dialog got simplified, but import settings shouldn't have changed during an install. |
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| Author: | throughsilver [ Tue Sep 16, 2008 23:36 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Cheap" iPhone |
Yeah, it used to be my short cut when seeing whether iTunes could automatically download the art. Rather than highlight all tracks, I'd just right-click on the cover space. |
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| Author: | romanista [ Wed Sep 17, 2008 6:43 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Cheap" iPhone |
genius doesn't seem to be working for me, but that might be because i once decided to share my itunes librarfy amongst two users (not a good idea in the end) jailbreaknme.com didn't work for me, so i'll try quickpwn |
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| Author: | romanista [ Wed Sep 17, 2008 6:51 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Cheap" iPhone |
CraigGrannell wrote: Was that ever possible? If it was, it isn't now. As for the prefs, the dialog got simplified, but import settings shouldn't have changed during an install. the import settings haven't changed, but the place to change the settings have, it is now under general and then imort settings, took me some time to find it (as it was on mp3 for something and it had to be on aac to make me own ringtones) |
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| Author: | romanista [ Wed Sep 17, 2008 7:12 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Cheap" iPhone |
on the copy and pase front, this seems quite nice http://gizmodo.com/5050729/latest-iphon ... ails-notes |
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| Author: | CraigGrannell [ Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:14 ] |
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throughsilver wrote: Yeah, it used to be my short cut when seeing whether iTunes could automatically download the art. Rather than highlight all tracks, I'd just right-click on the cover space. You can do this on Album View now. Odd that you can't on Cover Flow. |
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| Author: | GazChap [ Wed Sep 17, 2008 12:55 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Cheap" iPhone |
If I upgrade my iPhone 2G to 2.1, then jailbreak it, will it still be unlocked and workable with Orange? |
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| Author: | mrbogus [ Wed Sep 17, 2008 13:18 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Cheap" iPhone |
GazChap wrote: If I upgrade my iPhone 2G to 2.1, then jailbreak it, will it still be unlocked and workable with Orange? Yep, my 2G is on Orange with firmware 2.1. The latest firmware still hasn't solved the Safari crashes that Apple introduced into 2.0, though. |
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| Author: | Sir Taxalot [ Wed Sep 17, 2008 16:55 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Cheap" iPhone |
Anyone here got the the 3G iPhone? Can it do MMS? And what's the battery life like? |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Sep 17, 2008 16:58 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Cheap" iPhone |
Sir Taxalot wrote: Anyone here got the the 3G iPhone? Can it do MMS? And what's the battery life like? Yes. No. Seems to be better now, but it was bloody awful.
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| Author: | The Rev Owen [ Wed Sep 17, 2008 17:00 ] |
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What? The iPhone can't do MMS? That can't be right, am I missing something here? |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Sep 17, 2008 17:03 ] |
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The Rev Owen wrote: What? The iPhone can't do MMS? That can't be right, am I missing something here? Nope, it can't and never has been able to.
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