"comment analy" sounds about right.
MaliA wrote:
http://www.politics.co.uk/comment-analysis/2018/04/10/brexit-nightmares-britain-is-about-to-face-the-bureaucratic
This is good
This is good
Yes. What's disappointing is I've yet to see any evidence that those wanting to leave have either considered this or have solutions. I also see little point in writing yet again to my MP saying 'have you thought about this?' because based on previous responses I'm not going to get an informative reply unless the mood in her local party starts shifting I doubt it'd do anything. The joys of safe seats.
Hey, here's another entry for our on-going list of 'the Benefits of Brexit':
Fondue.
Fondue.
This is Oxfordshire wrote:
A REVIVAL of the 1970's dinner party classic the cheese fondue could be down to Remainers longing to bond with the rest of Europe, an Oxford professor has claimed.
Kern wrote:
Hey, here's another entry for our on-going list of 'the Benefits of Brexit':
Fondue.
Fondue.
This is Oxfordshire wrote:
A REVIVAL of the 1970's dinner party classic the cheese fondue could be down to Remainers longing to bond with the rest of Europe, an Oxford professor has claimed.
Everyone knows that Fondue is just a invention of the Swiss Cheese Mafia
God Damn, Nicky Santoro, again...
Squirt wrote:
Swiss Cheese Mafia
Talented guys then, they mad some fucking banging choons too, lad.
I know most of my posts here are just me being flabbergasted by idiot Brexiteers but, seriously, look at the state of this
https://twitter.com/JimMFelton/status/9 ... 3072117760
https://twitter.com/JimMFelton/status/9 ... 3072117760
A classic of the "people who want out of the EU complaining about the consequences of leaving the EU" genre pic.twitter.com/4xVLxwNN8o
— James Felton (@JimMFelton) April 26, 2018
Absolute morons.
Presumably they also kicked up a stink when the US introduced their ESTA system.
Oh.
Oh.
Pssst... have they found out about the possible return of roaming charges yet? Should we tell them?
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
I know most of my posts here are just me being flabbergasted by idiot Brexiteers but, seriously, look at the state of this
https://twitter.com/JimMFelton/status/9 ... 3072117760
https://twitter.com/JimMFelton/status/9 ... 3072117760
A classic of the "people who want out of the EU complaining about the consequences of leaving the EU" genre pic.twitter.com/4xVLxwNN8o
— James Felton (@JimMFelton) April 26, 2018
The Daily Mail knows what it's doing. It's just another way of painting the EU as bullies and reinforces Leavers views that they were right to get out.
Their Lordships have voted to keep the UK in the EEA and the single market. I really hope Labour get their act together and keep these things in the bill when it returns to the Commons. I mean, if spring can finally arrive this year, anything is worth hoping for.
Labour really need to get a proper Brexit policy sorted, this deliberate man-in-the-middle approach where they don't really say anything doesn't work any more, even though it worked out nicely at the last general election as a one-off.
They do although it would be easier to formulate a policy opposing the government's policy if the government actually had a policy themselves.
Months to go now and they have No. Fucking. Clue. what they're even going to try and get. It's absolutely unbelievable. They fucked us once in calling the referendum and now they're fucking us again by not even displaying even the slightest bit of coherence in carrying it out. Still, it's all Gordon Brown's and Jeremy Corbyn's faults.
Months to go now and they have No. Fucking. Clue. what they're even going to try and get. It's absolutely unbelievable. They fucked us once in calling the referendum and now they're fucking us again by not even displaying even the slightest bit of coherence in carrying it out. Still, it's all Gordon Brown's and Jeremy Corbyn's faults.
The ever-reliable Ian Dunt has a good post today about the EEA and it contains a good critique of Labour's position.
There's always some good that comes out of bad things (mostly... I mean, the heat death of the universe will at least spare us another Ed Sheeran LP), and for Brexit one of the 'goods' is Ian Dunt's writings. I don't think I'd ever heard of him until now, but he's written some really good overviews of Brexit and the complexities of untangling ourselves.
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If anything, the Labour position is less rational than the Tory one (quite a feat) because the EU are making state aid a condition of the final Brexit deal regardless of whether we are in the single market or not. So Labour is rejecting a single market deal because it involves a condition which they'd anyway sign away when they agreed to a deal outside the single market. It is madness.
There's always some good that comes out of bad things (mostly... I mean, the heat death of the universe will at least spare us another Ed Sheeran LP), and for Brexit one of the 'goods' is Ian Dunt's writings. I don't think I'd ever heard of him until now, but he's written some really good overviews of Brexit and the complexities of untangling ourselves.
Kern wrote:
The ever-reliable Ian Dunt has a good post today about the EEA and it contains a good critique of Labour's position.
There's always some good that comes out of bad things (mostly... I mean, the heat death of the universe will at least spare us another Ed Sheeran LP), and for Brexit one of the 'goods' is Ian Dunt's writings. I don't think I'd ever heard of him until now, but he's written some really good overviews of Brexit and the complexities of untangling ourselves.
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If anything, the Labour position is less rational than the Tory one (quite a feat) because the EU are making state aid a condition of the final Brexit deal regardless of whether we are in the single market or not. So Labour is rejecting a single market deal because it involves a condition which they'd anyway sign away when they agreed to a deal outside the single market. It is madness.
There's always some good that comes out of bad things (mostly... I mean, the heat death of the universe will at least spare us another Ed Sheeran LP), and for Brexit one of the 'goods' is Ian Dunt's writings. I don't think I'd ever heard of him until now, but he's written some really good overviews of Brexit and the complexities of untangling ourselves.
That should be his Twitter sig. "The best thing about Brexit."
Maybe if the PM writes down some mutually incompatible ideas again while wishing really, really hard then it'll somehow mean something this time?
https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/ ... 9089255424
https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/ ... 9089255424
PM sets out 3 Brexit “tests†ahead of Cabinet Customs crunch:
— Faisal Islam (@faisalislam) May 13, 2018
1. protect Union/ no hard border with Ireland
2. “As little friction as possible†in trade for “integrated supply chains†ie car
3. “Must not constrain†free trade deals with other countrieshttps://t.co/xOhF4RJqQA pic.twitter.com/Tk9Nmezsj5
What a fucking idiot. Her first wish should have been infinite wishes.
The 'friction' one is a good one*. In that it's very hard to define, and you can spend hours arguing over whether a new process involves friction, how much, and whether it's too much.
*Meaningless
*Meaningless
Well well.
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/9 ... 7792711680
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/9 ... 7792711680
FINANCIAL TIMES: May concedes on tie to customs union until Irish border resolved #tomorrowspaperstoday pic.twitter.com/aaC0T7jLD1
— Neil Henderson (@hendopolis) May 17, 2018
She has taken back so much control.
MaliA wrote:
She has taken back so much control.
This is the Maggie Simpson model.
Mark Carney, governor of the Bank of England, has said that British households are more than £900 worse off following the Brexit vote, so far.
Yay! Taking back control!
Yay! Taking back control!
Curiosity wrote:
Mark Carney, governor of the Bank of England, has said that British households are more than £900 worse off following the Brexit vote, so far.
Yay! Taking back control!
Yay! Taking back control!
Brexiteers will say they don't care. It's the price for freedom and independence etc.
I've got to be honest, I don't feel any more free now than I did this time last year. Or the year before. Or the year before that. 
TheVision wrote:
I've got to be honest, I don't feel any more free now than I did this time last year. Or the year before. Or the year before that.
Yes, but you're not deluding yourself on a grand scale.
The Commons Select Committee on leaving the EU has published a review of progress over the last few months.
How do they think the Government are handling this?
Strong and stable, eh readers?
How do they think the Government are handling this?
Hilary Benn wrote:
Twenty-three months after the referendum and fourteen months since the triggering of Article 50, we still don't know what the UK's future relationship with the EU will be on trade, services, security, defence, consumer safety, data, broadcasting rights and many other things.
The clock is now running down and Parliament will need clarity and certainty by the time it is asked to vote on a draft withdrawal agreement in the autumn. We wait to see whether the promised white paper next month will provide it."
The clock is now running down and Parliament will need clarity and certainty by the time it is asked to vote on a draft withdrawal agreement in the autumn. We wait to see whether the promised white paper next month will provide it."
Strong and stable, eh readers?
Oh dear. This is truly the moment the Brexit Secretary jumps the shark.
Guardian wrote:
Northern Ireland could be given joint EU and UK status and a “buffer zone” on its border with Ireland, under new plans being drawn up by David Davis, according to reports.
Somebody made the simple yet perfect 'bluffer zone' comment earlier.
The DUP won’t be happy with NI being treated differently from the rest of the UK!
Unless it’s about abortion or anything else they get upset about. In that case they definitely want to be different.
Unless it’s about abortion or anything else they get upset about. In that case they definitely want to be different.
Would another billion pounds change their mind?
One day for the Commons to debate their Lordships' amendment to the Withdrawal Bill. Boy, I love how Parliament are exercising their new found freedoms and finally taking control.
I'd write to my MP but I can't find a calm form of words and I don't think people respond well to being told they're not very good at their job.
I'd write to my MP but I can't find a calm form of words and I don't think people respond well to being told they're not very good at their job.
Ah, Britain, the Mother of Parliaments, inheritor of hundreds of years of grand democratic tradition, and staffed by dignified intellectuals.
NARRATOR: it wasn't.
https://twitter.com/NadineDorries/statu ... 9885836288
NARRATOR: it wasn't.
https://twitter.com/NadineDorries/statu ... 9885836288
David Davis is ex SAS He’s trained to survive. He’s also trained to take people out. #Brexit
— Nadine Dorries (@NadineDorries) June 7, 2018
Favourite reply on that thread
"He's barely sufficiently trained to take out the Downing Street bins"
"He's barely sufficiently trained to take out the Downing Street bins"
Jesus wept, how had I never seen this before
https://twitter.com/MichaelPDeacon/stat ... 4934184961
https://twitter.com/MichaelPDeacon/stat ... 4934184961
This is absolutely real: David Davis, in 2002, tells MPs why referendums can go badly wrong. "We should not ask people to vote on a blank sheet of paper, and tell them to trust us to fill in the details afterwards..."
— Michael Deacon (@MichaelPDeacon) December 13, 2017
https://t.co/ypshyJrby2 pic.twitter.com/QjJ0wKOgiM
https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/poli ... hardliners
Dunt, as usual, is pithy good value on just how stuck May is.
Dunt, as usual, is pithy good value on just how stuck May is.
I wanted to write something about how the vote has limited options, or seemed to, for the whole political system. But then I was distracted by
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accept the backstop and reach around the back end
Her Majesty's Principal Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs demonstrating an attitude towards Ireland that's got Britain a poor reputation throughout history:
Because, Mr Johnson, 20 years of peace after essentially a forty-year long civil war is actually something worth keeping.
Guardian wrote:
Johnson’s views were laid bare in the secret recording in which he criticised the significance the Irish border issue has taken on in the negotiations with Brussels.
“It’s so small and there are so few firms that actually use that border regularly, it’s just beyond belief that we’re allowing the tail to wag the dog in this way. We’re allowing the whole of our agenda to be dictated by this folly,” he said.
“It’s so small and there are so few firms that actually use that border regularly, it’s just beyond belief that we’re allowing the tail to wag the dog in this way. We’re allowing the whole of our agenda to be dictated by this folly,” he said.
Because, Mr Johnson, 20 years of peace after essentially a forty-year long civil war is actually something worth keeping.
It is beyond parody that he hasn't been fired.
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
It is beyond parody that he hasn't been fired.
He can't be fired, otherwise he'll topple May and attempt to take her place. She knows this.
It's almost as if Ireland are part of some sort of "union' of countries, who have all promised to look out for each other, and therefore can't be ridden roughshod over by larger neighbours.
It is all starting to seem a bit like the handbasket is already in hell and the quantum state is just trying to settle on how many of us are in Schroedinger's box with the cat.
I assume you're not buying direct from Land Rover?
Phillip Lee MP, a justice minister has resigned his ministerial post.
Interesting statement, of the 'not saying Brexit's a bad idea, but what we're doing is bad' school of ambivalence. Wonder how many more will find their spines over the next few months?
Interesting statement, of the 'not saying Brexit's a bad idea, but what we're doing is bad' school of ambivalence. Wonder how many more will find their spines over the next few months?
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If,in the future, I am to look my children in the eye and honestly say that I did my best for them I cannot, in all good conscience, support how our country’s exit from the EU looks set to be delivered.
That is well put.
tl:dr "what an absolute bollocks. Fuck this."
Check out @campbellclaret’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/campbellclaret/stat ... 8971753472
As opposed to destroying a country on false pretences you muppet https://t.co/yNGOzhospB
— Alastair Campbell (@campbellclaret) June 12, 2018
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