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Author:  myp [ Tue Jun 12, 2012 16:13 ]
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Craster wrote:
Hmm.


Thppppp.

If you hold down on the .com button, you can select different domain extensions!

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Jun 12, 2012 16:44 ]
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Craster wrote:
I was actually thinking more about embedding photos than uploading them. I want them to do what they've done, plus I want them to let me do a press-hold to grab image properties (such as the url) for embedding images.

So not the same thing :D

Author:  GazChap [ Tue Jun 12, 2012 17:02 ]
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Not overly impressed with the new Maps app, but obviously it's beta so I assume they'll sort out all of the little things.

The data seems to be horrifically out of date - it has Shrewsbury Town FC's home ground in the wrong place, despite the team moving around 5 years ago.

I also asked it to give me a route from Shrewsbury to London, and it referred to one of the motorways (the M1 I think) as Western Avenue, i.e. "drive 82.9 miles on Western Avenue."

The Passbook app included in the beta seems to do nothing except show a splash screen, but that might be because it's US-only or they have no UK partners yet or something.

The Do Not Disturb feature looks to be very useful indeed, as is the slide-up options to quick-reply to incoming calls.

Author:  Trooper [ Tue Jun 12, 2012 18:29 ]
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Hmmmm.....

http://store.apple.com/uk/product/IPAD_ ... OLY-114501

This was released on the quiet! An admission by Apple that the smart cover wasn't actually that smart in the end? ;)

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:05 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Grim... wrote:
Doc: Can they choose videos, or is it specifically their photo gallery?
Not sure. It was a very brief part of the keynote, and no-one I know with the iOS 6 beta has tried it yet.

Video too: http://tnw.to/d0Je

Author:  Grim... [ Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:16 ]
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Can't see the video?

And that's one of the worst articles I've read in a long time :S

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:20 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Can't see the video?
No, I mean, the file upload supports video as well as photos, answering your original question.

Author:  Grim... [ Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:26 ]
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Aha! Ta.

Author:  romanista [ Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:15 ]
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completely hate the wordpress app on the iPad, so this might help...

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:00 ]
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Hey, Cras: https://developer.apple.com/programs/volume/

Author:  Cras [ Wed Jun 13, 2012 13:04 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:


Yeah, I know. Three annoyances (and really, these are properly stupid. I don't understand the way Apple steadfastly refuse to do business with corporate customers in any sane way).
1) Credit card purchase only. Even two-man dev shops are capable of putting together an invoice for centralised payment, for goodness' sake.
2) What you get is a spreadsheet of redemption codes. Managing who's used what code would be a nightmare.
3) Single Apple ID for accessing the system, which their terms & conditions forbid sharing on. Guy who owns that ID goes on holiday for a month? You're not buying any apps for a month.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Jun 13, 2012 17:27 ]
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Hmmm. Interesting stuff, Cras. I may have to write that up.

I've written things about the new MacBook: http://www.tuaw.com/2012/06/13/the-cont ... a-display/

And iOS 6: http://www.tuaw.com/2012/06/12/ios-6-on ... -the-drea/

Author:  Trooper [ Wed Jun 13, 2012 17:36 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:

I've written things about the new MacBook: http://www.tuaw.com/2012/06/13/the-cont ... a-display/


I'd be interested to know if there are any figures on how many of the upper end of the MBP market is bought by individuals with their own cash, and how many are bought via companies.

Your arguments make sense from a long term perspective, but for me i'll get the top of the range model every 2 years from work, so upgradability and ease of repair isn't high on my list. I wonder how much of the market is like that?

Author:  myp [ Wed Jun 13, 2012 17:49 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Hmmm. Interesting stuff, Cras. I may have to write that up.

I've written things about the new MacBook: http://www.tuaw.com/2012/06/13/the-cont ... a-display/

I take your point about repairability, but with no moving parts, shouldn't there be less likelihood of things going wrong?

I think if they'd offered the Retina display on the old-style chassis I'd have gone for that, but I reckon I'd have been disappointed if I'd gone for a non-Retina display.

Author:  Zardoz [ Wed Jun 13, 2012 23:30 ]
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Quote:
RAM soldered to the motherboard, as we all suspected. No ability to upgrade it after purchase. I couldn't find anywhere on apple.com that makes this limitation clear to shoppers, either. That strikes me as disingenuous.

Complete cunt's trick, that.

Author:  myp [ Wed Jun 13, 2012 23:33 ]
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I'm not sure I'll need any more than 8GB RAM over the next three years or so, so it's not really an issue for me. They're basically aligning their laptops with the iOS devices though, it seems.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Sat Jun 16, 2012 13:46 ]
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Typing this on a MBPwRD.

This screen really is very nice.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Sat Jun 16, 2012 14:02 ]
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Beex in Safari (with 2880x1800 text rendering) and Chrome (which doesn't do HiDPI correctly, so is effectively rendering text at 1440x900):

Attachment:
Screen Shot 2012-06-16 at 14.00.38.png


In other words, on the left is a retina display, and on the right is (basically) every other computer ever.

Author:  Cras [ Sat Jun 16, 2012 14:17 ]
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The one on the right looks infinitely worse than it does on my screen, so there's something wrong with your comparison there. The fonts are fucked.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Sat Jun 16, 2012 14:20 ]
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It's an off-the-shelf install of Chrome. Are you zooming it in too far? The screen is at 205 dpi, so you should view it at 25% on a normal screen to compensate.

Author:  myp [ Sat Jun 16, 2012 16:10 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Typing this on a MBPwRD.

This screen really is very nice.

WTF >:(

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Sat Jun 16, 2012 16:44 ]
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In an Apple Store, myp. Calm down, dear. It's just a demo unit.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Sat Jun 16, 2012 17:14 ]
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Craster wrote:
The one on the right looks infinitely worse than it does on my screen, so there's something wrong with your comparison there. The fonts are fucked.

I think you're wrong.

On the top of this screenshot, Beex in Chrome (left) and Safari (right) on the MBPwRD. Zoomed at 1:1. On the bottom: Beex in Chrome on my iMac, zoomed at 2:1 (so it ends up the same size as the MBPwRD screenshot).

Attachment:
Screen Shot 2012-06-16 at 17.12.18.png


Looks to me like Chrome is the same in both cases? I have other screenshots of the same thing on tuaw.com, showing the same difference, so it's nothing specific to Beex.

The fonts aren't fucked -- it's just the retina display looks that good.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Sat Jun 16, 2012 17:32 ]
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A similar comparison, but on TUAW.com: http://fscked.co.uk/post/25231445804/retina-safari

Author:  myp [ Sat Jun 16, 2012 18:16 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
In an Apple Store, myp. Calm down, dear. It's just a demo unit.

:DD

Author:  metalangel [ Sat Jun 16, 2012 19:37 ]
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The Last Salmon Man wrote:
Yeah, so I cracked and ordered one of the new Retina MBPs.


I hope the lid isn't glued shut when it arrives :attitude:

Author:  Cras [ Sat Jun 16, 2012 19:54 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
On the top of this screenshot, Beex in Chrome (left) and Safari (right) on the MBPwRD. Zoomed at 1:1. On the bottom: Beex in Chrome on my iMac, zoomed at 2:1 (so it ends up the same size as the MBPwRD screenshot).


Ah, now that looks much more like it. I do have to say though, I can now barely tell the difference between the two.

Also, why the shitting fuck don't macs have a delete key?!

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Sat Jun 16, 2012 19:56 ]
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Craster wrote:
Ah, now that looks much more like it. I do have to say though, I can now barely tell the difference between the two.
Are you clicking through and viewing them full screen? If you look at the inline graphic within phpbb, then you see a HiDPI screen downsampled by your browser to normal DPI levels -- so it's unsurprising you won't see a difference there.

Quote:
Also, why the shitting fuck don't macs have a delete key?!

Mac users don't make mistakes.

Author:  Cras [ Sat Jun 16, 2012 20:00 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Craster wrote:
Ah, now that looks much more like it. I do have to say though, I can now barely tell the difference between the two.
Are you clicking through and viewing them full screen?.


Yup. Barely noticeable unless I zoom right into super-huge image. Stop trying to justify it to yourself :)

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Sat Jun 16, 2012 20:10 ]
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Uhhh, I'm not justifying anything; I'm not buying one. But if you don't view that image at 1:1 on your screen of course the difference will be obscured.

The only way to see a true representation of the difference is on a 200+ DPI screen, but you don't have one at home, do you?

Author:  Grim... [ Sat Jun 16, 2012 22:13 ]
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Craster should zoom in and then move back until he has the equivalent of 200 DPI.

Science us, Doc!

Author:  Zardoz [ Sat Jun 16, 2012 23:28 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Craster wrote:
Also, why the shitting fuck don't macs have a delete key?!

Mac users don't make mistakes.

Awesome.

Author:  Mr Dave [ Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:50 ]
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Craster wrote:
Also, why the shitting fuck don't macs have a delete key?!

That would be the superior keyboard.

Author:  Mimi [ Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:31 ]
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Eh?

Author:  Cras [ Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:46 ]
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On the cutdown Air keyboard, I perhaps should have clarified.

Author:  Mimi [ Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:04 ]
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That's because it's a cutdown keyboard.

Author:  myp [ Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:26 ]
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Next you'll be telling me it doesn't have a number pad!

Author:  Cras [ Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:58 ]
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Mimi wrote:
That's because it's a cutdown keyboard.


Yes. I've never seen a cutdown keyboard where delete was one of the removed keys, is all.

Author:  Trooper [ Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:01 ]
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No delete key, no obvious # key. The first two things that make a new Mac user go WTF :)

Author:  Grim... [ Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:05 ]
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And then go @But it's so pretty!@

Author:  Mimi [ Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:17 ]
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Trooper wrote:
No delete key, no obvious # key. The first two things that make a new Mac user go WTF :)

I have a delete key.

Also, I like the combination for the # character. In America they call it the pound, yes? So it's alt + £ (3), or the alternative pound.

Author:  Cras [ Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:48 ]
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Trooper wrote:
No delete key, no obvious # key. The first two things that make a new Mac user go WTF :)


Still trying to work out how to delete things. Wait - it's OK! I'll just ..... right ..... click. ;)

Author:  throughsilver [ Sun Jun 17, 2012 13:14 ]
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Craster wrote:
Trooper wrote:
No delete key, no obvious # key. The first two things that make a new Mac user go WTF :)


Still trying to work out how to delete things. Wait - it's OK! I'll just ..... right ..... click. ;)

ITT: Different things are different.

Author:  Cras [ Sun Jun 17, 2012 13:22 ]
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:shrug:

Yes - that's what I said.

Author:  Malabelm [ Sun Jun 17, 2012 13:30 ]
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Craster wrote:
Trooper wrote:
No delete key, no obvious # key. The first two things that make a new Mac user go WTF :)


Still trying to work out how to delete things. Wait - it's OK! I'll just ..... right ..... click. ;)


Function + backspace deletes text ahead of the caret. Command + backspace deletes files etc. I think. It’s all muscle memory now.

Author:  Mr Dave [ Sun Jun 17, 2012 17:18 ]
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Malabelm wrote:
Craster wrote:
Trooper wrote:
No delete key, no obvious # key. The first two things that make a new Mac user go WTF :)


Still trying to work out how to delete things. Wait - it's OK! I'll just ..... right ..... click. ;)


Function + backspace deletes text ahead of the caret. Command + backspace deletes files etc. I think. It’s all muscle memory now.

What about in windows, because, say, you bought the mac to run windows?

Author:  Cras [ Sun Jun 17, 2012 17:19 ]
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Malabar's shortcuts work fine in Windows too.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Sun Jun 17, 2012 17:21 ]
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The Apple software driver pack makes Windows behave the same way for other stuff too, like trackpad gestures and right-click mechanism.

Author:  Cras [ Sun Jun 17, 2012 17:24 ]
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Yes. You were right, it is quite a neat implementation.

Author:  myp [ Sun Jun 17, 2012 17:25 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
The Apple software driver pack makes Windows behave the same way for other stuff too, like trackpad gestures and right-click mechanism.

I was going to ask, Is the procedure for installing Apple drivers for The Windows partition quite easy then?

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