Tempting, very tempting.
But I now must be a responsible adult and not fritter my money away on gadgetry...
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| Author: | Cras [ Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:55 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
It's worth bearing in mind that if you bought it, it'll be hooked up by default to your Amazon account - if you don't both use the same account, you'll need to change that. Nice feature that, though. |
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| Author: | Curiosity [ Tue Sep 28, 2010 9:27 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
I knew I shouldn't have asked for this for Xmas. My folks have bought me one but I can't use it until then and I want it know and if I hadn't asked for it then I could just buy one now and then play with it! Gah! |
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| Author: | DBSnappa [ Tue Sep 28, 2010 10:37 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
Curiosity wrote: I knew I shouldn't have asked for this for Xmas. My folks have bought me one but I can't use it until then and I want it know and if I hadn't asked for it then I could just buy one now and then play with it! Gah! Buy one anyway and eBay it on Boxing day. HTH HAND |
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| Author: | Curiosity [ Tue Sep 28, 2010 10:42 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
Tempting, very tempting. But I now must be a responsible adult and not fritter my money away on gadgetry...
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| Author: | DBSnappa [ Tue Sep 28, 2010 10:51 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
Curiosity wrote: Tempting, very tempting. But I now must be a responsible adult and not fritter my money away on gadgetry... Tsk. Gaywood would have bitten. You're no fun 
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| Author: | Curiosity [ Tue Sep 28, 2010 10:54 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
DBSnappa wrote: Curiosity wrote: Tempting, very tempting. But I now must be a responsible adult and not fritter my money away on gadgetry... Tsk. Gaywood would have bitten. You're no fun My fun is on hold for the next 18.5 years. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:19 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
You wouldn't understand. But you soon will 
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| Author: | Goddess Jasmine [ Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:33 ] |
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Craster wrote: Oh, goodness yes. Nada. I've never had any decent reaction from topical treatments. We would always recommend drinking it too alongside using it topically. BUT only the stabalised stuff, seen some amazing results from it. |
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| Author: | markg [ Tue Sep 28, 2010 16:54 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
Sir Taxalot wrote: markg wrote: You really ought to check and make sure it isn't a dud or anything. To avoid disappointment. Hmmm I was thinking the same, but the box is quite nicely sealed up, with the easiest way in being a rip-tab. I think I'll just have to wait for her to open the box, and then snatch it away to 'get it set up properly'. As it turns out the one I ordered for my other half's birthday arrived today too. Popular 'gifts' it seems, these Kindles. I'm a bit miffed to learn that there is no way to gift books to people, though. I can either leave it registered to my account and buy some books on there or de-register it and buy a gift card or something. Seems a bit of an omission to not have any way to give specific titles as presents. |
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| Author: | Curiosity [ Tue Sep 28, 2010 17:02 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
If we have two Kindles in the house, will we have to buy two of each book, or can we use my account for both? It'd kinda suck to have to buy everything twice, especially given the other drawbacks of not having a physical copy (I'm still getting one though... it's worth it for the lack of clutter!). |
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| Author: | markg [ Tue Sep 28, 2010 17:04 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
Yeah you can register multiple Kindles to your account so no need to buy everything twice. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Tue Sep 28, 2010 17:09 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
Kinda sucks to have to explain everything twice, too I concur about gifting books, but I suspect the ability to do so can't be that far away. |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Tue Sep 28, 2010 17:10 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
Curiosity wrote: If we have two Kindles in the house, will we have to buy two of each book, or can we use my account for both? You can use up to five Kindle devices on a single Amazon account, including physical Kindles and the various client programs for PC, Mac, iPhone, Android, etc. If you read the same book at the same time, though, you'll need to disable the "sync where I am in the book" feature.
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| Author: | DavPaz [ Tue Sep 28, 2010 17:16 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
Unless you read at exactly the same pace |
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| Author: | Curiosity [ Tue Sep 28, 2010 17:17 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
Awesome. Cheers, fellas. |
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| Author: | Agent Starling [ Tue Sep 28, 2010 20:15 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
My Kindle has been dispatched and will be here tomorrow! *bouncing with excitement* 
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| Author: | DavPaz [ Tue Sep 28, 2010 21:11 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
Can I say, it's good to see you Starling. You've not been posting enough. |
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| Author: | Agent Starling [ Wed Sep 29, 2010 20:14 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
DavPaz wrote: Can I say, it's good to see you Starling. You've not been posting enough. Thanks, chap.  Also - the Kindle has arrived! It's very lovely, though I don't go much on the keyboard, but then I don't plan to be using this too much I suppose, and it serves the purpose. Oddly, it feels a little heavy to me - I'm not saying it's heavy in itself, it just feels ever so slightly heavier than I was expecting. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Thu Sep 30, 2010 14:00 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
Fo realz? I took the case off mine for the first time in a while last night and was shocked at how little it weighed. And mine's an old one - I can only assume yours weighs less. |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Thu Sep 30, 2010 14:52 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
K3 is crazy light, it's 240g. |
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| Author: | Agent Starling [ Thu Sep 30, 2010 20:07 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
Oh sure, it's well light, but I dunno, I (stupidly, I'm sure) expected it to feel as light as a feather or something. Don't get me wrong it's not a complaint, and I'm loving it so far. Took it into work today and impressed a few colleagues. |
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| Author: | Agent Starling [ Sat Oct 02, 2010 17:27 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
I showed this to my friend at work yesterday. Being a typical woman, she's rubbish with gadgets, and at first started touching the screen and saying it wasn't working. I then brought up the Kindle Store on there and showed her some books from one of her favourite authors. She finally got the hang of how to move the cursor around, and promptly clicked on "buy now" against one of the books.  Luckily, seems Amazon have taken this into account, and I clicked on "oh dear I have downloaded this by mistake please refund me", and so all's well that ends well. Probably though, most women should not be allowed to own a Kindle. 
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| Author: | Dr Lave [ Sat Oct 02, 2010 19:04 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
I looked with envious eyes at my friends kindle in the pub last week. The screen is wondrous (although ipad for lyfe yo!) and it's so light and very , very nice. But I agree with the lady in your story. Of the 6 or 7 people who played with it almost everybody touched the screen first then resorted to buttons. That's the default way you expect hand helds to work now days. Is there any way to get a touch screen on an e-reader without compromising the screen? Because that would be the fushizzle. |
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| Author: | Cras [ Sat Oct 02, 2010 19:21 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
I have no idea why you'd want a touchscreen. I don't typically try stroking words when I read books. The most recent Sony models are touch. |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Sat Oct 02, 2010 19:21 ] |
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Dr Lave wrote: Is there any way to get a touch screen on an e-reader without compromising the screen? No. The touch screen Sony eReaders have (apparently) noticeably worse screens for it.
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| Author: | Cras [ Sat Oct 02, 2010 21:43 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
Oh, for anyone who thinks (like me) that putting a screensaver on something that has no possible need for a screensaver whilst providing no way to disable it or change the godawful showreel of dead authors is a fucking stupid design decision, there's a handy guide to hacking the device to get rid of it (or use your own pictures) here: http://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/Kindle_ ... .x_Kindles |
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| Author: | Mimi [ Sat Oct 02, 2010 23:26 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
I thought the Sony e-reader screens looked fab, and the touch screen works really well. I drew a picture of a dinosaur on one of the working display units in Waterstones a few weeks ago, and it was very responsive. Still, the Kindle seems like a nicer machine to use for the main purpose (that of reading) from what I understand as there s a flash and delay when you 'turn the page' on the Sony ones, which I gather isn't the case with Kindles. Also, I think someone said you need specific software to use the Sony ones? Booo to that. |
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| Author: | Cras [ Sat Oct 02, 2010 23:28 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
There's always a flash and delay, on all e-ink devices, because it's redrawing the screen. Still, it's quicker than it would normally take to turn a physical page, I don't see the issue. It was me who said about the Sonys. Mine was a nightmare for just refusing to ever talk to my PC. |
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| Author: | Trooper [ Sun Oct 03, 2010 13:22 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
The Sony software was just awful Calibre is much better, but still pretty bad in terms of usability. |
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| Author: | Cras [ Sun Oct 03, 2010 13:25 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
I found it was the USB driver that was the issue. Half the time the reader wouldn't talk to Calibre either. |
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| Author: | Zen-Chan [ Sun Oct 03, 2010 18:14 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
Craster wrote: I have no idea why you'd want a touchscreen. I don't typically try stroking words when I read books. I would intuitively expect to be able to make a "swipe" gesture from right to left to be able to turn the "page". |
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| Author: | Cras [ Sun Oct 03, 2010 19:53 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
Hrmm, true - but is it experience of apple products that makes you expect that? I don't see that on its own as being worth putting in a touchscreen for. Especially as it's easier to turn the pages without doing that, as you don't need to move your hand. |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Sun Oct 03, 2010 20:34 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
If my Kindle had a touchscreen, it'd only get used when n00bs picked it up. I'd continue to use the hard buttons. |
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| Author: | Mimi [ Sun Oct 03, 2010 20:37 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
Craster wrote: quicker than it would normally take to turn a physical page, I don't see the issue. It wasn't the speed of the page urn on the sony e-reader that bothered me, it was the 'flash' of the screen which bothered my eyes a little. |
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| Author: | Cras [ Sun Oct 03, 2010 20:57 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
Oh, OK. Well, the Kindle does it too. |
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| Author: | Dr Lave [ Sun Oct 03, 2010 22:51 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
Choosing which book to read and navigating more than a few pages in either direction seemed massively clumsy on my mates kindle. A touchscreen would stop that. It isn't a big deal mind.- |
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| Author: | Cras [ Sun Oct 03, 2010 22:56 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
Dr Lave wrote: navigating more than a few pages in either direction seemed massively clumsy on my mates kindle What?! The 'next page' button is under your thumb. Tapping into your optic nerve and knowing when you've reached the end of the page wouldn't be a more seamless way of turning pages! |
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| Author: | Trooper [ Mon Oct 04, 2010 9:37 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
Craster wrote: I found it was the USB driver that was the issue. Half the time the reader wouldn't talk to Calibre either. Oh yes, but I found that to be a Windows Vista problem, it was forever fucking up USB drivers and I had no end of issues with my Sony Reader connecting up, somedays it would work, other days it wouldn't. Worked fine on my XP machine, and once I binned Vista and went to Windows 7 on my main machine, it worked fine again. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Mon Oct 04, 2010 9:59 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
Dr Lave wrote: Choosing which book to read and navigating more than a few pages in either direction seemed massively clumsy on my mates kindle. A touchscreen would stop that. It isn't a big deal mind.- Um... Wha? "Long-distance" nav can be a bit tricky until you get the hang of it (and even then it's still a little clunky), but how would a touch screen make it better? |
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| Author: | Zio [ Mon Oct 04, 2010 11:30 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
I'm thinking about getting a Kindle for my gf at Christmas. iPad ownership has spoilt me somewhat in that I'm starting to expect my devices to serve more than just one purpose, but I'm presuming the Kindle is literally just an eBook reader and nowt else? Also, I'm afraid I don't fancy reading the previous 9 pages of this thread to see if these next two questions have already been answered but: 1) If we've got WiFi in the house, is there any reason to get the 3G Kindle? Does the 3G connectivity solely allow you to access the Kindle store whilst out and about? 2) Can you upload eBooks not purchased from the Kindle store to it? Thanks and ta and all that! Bye! |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Mon Oct 04, 2010 11:31 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
Kindle can get on the web to view websites and play MP3s and show black and white photos. You don't want to rely on it to do these things, though. 1) Yes (get one) No (it can get on the web, I posted this when I didn't have my phone. It's crap at it, though). 2) Yes. |
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| Author: | Zio [ Mon Oct 04, 2010 11:33 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
Grim... wrote: 1) Yes (get one) No (it can get on the web). And it can do this with it's FREE4EVA 3G SIM card? That sounds pretty good! |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Mon Oct 04, 2010 11:33 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
Well, yes. But it's not a very good web experience. It's far more useful for buying books when out and about. |
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| Author: | markg [ Mon Oct 04, 2010 11:34 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
Ok for checking emails and stuff like weather forecasts in a pinch though? |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Mon Oct 04, 2010 11:37 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
Zio wrote: Also, I'm afraid I don't fancy reading the previous 9 pages of this thread to see if these next two questions have already been answered but: If only we had some sort of search facility on the Internet.
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| Author: | Grim... [ Mon Oct 04, 2010 11:38 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
markg wrote: Ok for checking emails and stuff like weather forecasts in a pinch though? Yes. |
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| Author: | zaphod79 [ Mon Oct 04, 2010 11:38 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
Zio wrote: Grim... wrote: 1) Yes (get one) No (it can get on the web). And it can do this with it's FREE4EVA 3G SIM card? That sounds pretty good! 
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| Author: | devilman [ Mon Oct 04, 2010 11:38 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
I noticed there's a version of Scrabble you can buy for it too. |
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| Author: | Zio [ Mon Oct 04, 2010 11:40 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
Doctor Glyndwr wrote: Zio wrote: Also, I'm afraid I don't fancy reading the previous 9 pages of this thread to see if these next two questions have already been answered but: If only we had some sort of search facility on the Internet.Ah! But then that would be too easy. And what is life without challenge? Plus, my questions have prompted discussion between two fellow human beings and thus helped preserve the traditions of inter-personal communication in this increasingly inhuman, digital age. And I couldn't be bothered doing a search. Thanks though Grim... my questions have been answered and I'll order one on pay day. I think she'll like it. Edited: to correct brainwrongs. |
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| Author: | Cras [ Mon Oct 04, 2010 11:40 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
Grim... wrote: It's far more useful for buying books when out and about. Do people do that? |
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