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I thought Hancock was fun. Did exactly what it said on the tin.

Barb Wire is my benchmark average, 5/10 movie. In that it's perfectly watchable from beginning to end, but with nothing in particular that's good or memorable about it. It's just, just good enough not to turn off, but no more.

'The Happening' is being shown on our flight to America. I might watch it and see just how bad it is...

The problem with these book/comic to film conversions is that (nowadays) there isn't enough scope in a film to give depth. You can't have extended monologues, etc describing what someone is thinking, why they are doing something, so you lose the depth and history of a chracter, meaning you have little connection with them.

Scarysheep3000 wrote:

POTC 2 was fucking shit.

Man, the ban-list come the revolution is getting longer by the day.

I had no idea we had so many philistines visiting this place.

I thought the second Matrix film was pretty good. Well, a mix of great and rubbish that ended up okay.

The third, though, oof! That one's a stinker!

when Smiff goes a bit nuts, basically.

Really? The alternate ending at least makes sense, where as the theatrical ending completely contradicts loads of stuff from earlier in the film.

But yes, it does go a bit downhill...

ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view!

when Smiff goes a bit nuts, basically.

oh yes, fuck me the scene after he went nuts and nearly kills himself, when he starts fucking quoting shrek, fucking hell man, youve nearly just died but the fucking makers want a classic will smith moment in a spot in doesnt even fit in.

The bit where he find himself in his kitchen with the woman and kid had me shaking my head, as I thought it was about to be revealed that SOMETHING was all a dream... either the epidemic, or the fact that he'd been rescued by them.

Bobbyaro wrote:

You need internal monologues to tell you what a character's thinking in a comic because it's difficult to show nuances of expression. In a film, giving you something of a window into what's going on in a character's head is pretty much an actor's primary job (unless you've cast Canoe Reeves, of course).
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that was my main objection with Dexter. Any tv show or film with monologues is simply writing retarded on their viewers forehead

Any tv show or film with monologues is simply writing retarded on their viewers forehead

Zodiac...I was really really unimpressed and frankly annoyed! Se7en was a brilliant bloody film and Zodiac promised, but did not deliver! It was sooo long aswell >.<

RuySan wrote:

Any tv show or film with monologues is simply writing retarded on their viewers forehead

That entirely depends whether they are using the monologues to tell you things you should already be able to work out, or to add to the story.

that was my main objection with Dexter. Any tv show or film with monologues is simply writing retarded on their viewers forehead

The Punisher I hated-this makes me sad as I love Marvel e.t.c

Shin wrote:

The Punisher I hated-this makes me sad as I love Marvel e.t.c

which punisher.... there were two.

Craster wrote:

RuySan wrote:

Any tv show or film with monologues is simply writing retarded on their viewers forehead

That entirely depends whether they are using the monologues to tell you things you should already be able to work out, or to add to the story.

As dirty as it makes me feel, I agree with Craster.

RuySan wrote:

that was my main objection with Dexter. Any tv show or film with monologues is simply writing retarded on their viewers forehead

Dexter is not too bad, if not one of the least worse shows on TV at the moment and being able to listen to the dichotomous internal dialogues of Dexter does nothing but giving some potatoes to the show.

Dolph Lundgren? Christ. Is it worse than the Thomas Jane one?

I watched the Thomas Jane one, then.

Dolph Lundgren? Christ. Is it worse than the Thomas Jane one?

Isn't that chap a cockney, though?

How is it a great film?

It goes against the whole damn comic!! The chars were wrong, he took his HELMET off.

The plot was nonsence!!

If Rico and Dread had the same DNA, whey did they look different???

if it was good why have they not made a sequal!!

Have you never heard of non-identical twins? Duh.

Mr Chris wrote:

Have you never heard of non-identical twins? Duh.

Non identical twins have different DNA. Duh. SCIENCEPWN.

Author:	DBSnappa [ Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:10 ]
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I hope someone tested the plausibility of this thread last night by watching Barb Wire on Sci-Fi. I was so tired I even forgot to record it, which I did do with Equilibrium, which like everyone says, is portentous rubbish, but I did watch it all

Author:	The Rev Owen [ Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:06 ]
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Barb Wire is my benchmark average, 5/10 movie. In that it's perfectly watchable from beginning to end, but with nothing in particular that's good or memorable about it. It's just, just good enough not to turn off, but no more.

Author:	Curiosity [ Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:13 ]
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'The Happening' is being shown on our flight to America. I might watch it and see just how bad it is...

Author:	MrChris [ Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:28 ]
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Craster wrote: I thought Hancock was fun. Did exactly what it said on the tin. Eh? It han'd your cock?

Author:	Plissken [ Wed Sep 17, 2008 10:53 ]
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The Rev Owen wrote: Barb Wire is my benchmark average, 5/10 movie. In that it's perfectly watchable from beginning to end, but with nothing in particular that's good or memorable about it. It's just, just good enough not to turn off, but no more. Barb Wire is quite fun - especially the overhead shot of Pamela Anderson in the lift, where it looks like she is enjoying the close company of two bald men.

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Author:	markg [ Wed Sep 17, 2008 10:57 ]
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Curiosity wrote: 'The Happening' is being shown on our flight to America. I might watch it and see just how bad it is... It's much worse than you think or else you wouldn't be considering watching it for any reason.

Author:	Rodafowa [ Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:06 ]
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Bobbyaro wrote: The problem with these book/comic to film conversions is that (nowadays) there isn't enough scope in a film to give depth. You can't have extended monologues, etc describing what someone is thinking, why they are doing something, so you lose the depth and history of a chracter, meaning you have little connection with them. OBJECTION! Depth? Superheroes? Seriously? You need internal monologues to tell you what a character's thinking in a comic because it's difficult to show nuances of expression. In a film, giving you something of a window into what's going on in a character's head is pretty much an actor's primary job (unless you've cast Canoe Reeves, of course). Anyway. Comic characters don't have depth, they've got backstory - usually sprawling, somewhat self-contradictory backstory that's a result of having dozens of different writers working on them over thirty-plus years of regular monthly issues. If there's a single classic superhero or villain who needs more than three sentences to sum up everything you actually need to know to be interested in that character, I can't think of them. Films don't need to give you the character's history, they just need to get the three sentances across. That's why Batman Begins, the first two X-Men, Spider-Man, Superman, The Crow and Iron Man all work. That's why Ang Lee's Hulk, Constantine and all the Schumacher Batman movies don't. I'd be genuinely interested to hear what superhero films put you off because you didn't feel they were deep enough.

Author:	Mimi [ Wed Sep 17, 2008 14:45 ]
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Mr Chris wrote: Scarysheep3000 wrote: POTC 2 was fucking shit. Man, the ban-list come the revolution is getting longer by the day. I had no idea we had so many philistines visiting this place. What about Goonies of the Carribean?

Author:	Sledge [ Wed Sep 17, 2008 14:54 ]
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The Rev Owen wrote: I thought the second Matrix film was pretty good. Well, a mix of great and rubbish that ended up okay. The third, though, oof! That one's a stinker! I was fairly 'Meh!' about the first one (answering, as it did, the question of how you can do a literal hero's journey -- where the hero dies and comes back to life -- in a modern context with a resounding "You CAN'T!") and expected to be even less impressed by the second, mostly because him flying off at the end of the first made me think it was going to be Superman in shades. But I ended up really quite enjoying it and the end -- oh the end! -- was enthralling because, to my mind, Smith coming through to the 'real' world could only mean that it was, in fact, just another level of the simulation. What a horrifically brilliant switcheroo! Of course in the third one we find out they (damn them!) hadn't thought of that, Smith really was supposed to have just plopped into someone's brain and ooooooh look! SPECIAL FX! LOOK EVERYONE! SHINY! [Grabs money and runs] It's particularly disappointing when the movie you're watching turns out to be less cool than the one you thought you were being presented with -- the one that could so easily have been. As problematic as the new Star Wars films were (and as nonchalant about the whole Star Wars thang as I am, only ever really digging Empire as a kid) I maintained high hopes for the much vaunted Yoda-Dooku fight as I thought I'd clocked what they were up to -- because, obviously, they would have Yoda sat there, calm and serene, controlling his sabre with the force alone while a totally outclassed Dooku struck out in pathetically impotent rage. But no, they had to have him leaping around like a facking fraggle on acid after drawing his weapon like John facking Wayne. Still, at least they have the technology to do Gremlins In Space so we can all take comfort from that.

Author:	The Rev Owen [ Fri Sep 19, 2008 23:24 ]
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I Am Legend. Tonight. Shite. Theatrical ending - rubbish. Alternate ending - even worse. Shame, as the first hour or so is okay.

Author:	metalangel [ Sat Sep 20, 2008 12:41 ]
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Really? The alternate ending at least makes sense, where as the theatrical ending completely contradicts loads of stuff from earlier in the film. But yes, it does go a bit downhill... ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! when Smiff goes a bit nuts, basically.

Author:	Runcle [ Sat Sep 20, 2008 13:00 ]
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MetalAngel wrote: Really? The alternate ending at least makes sense, where as the theatrical ending completely contradicts loads of stuff from earlier in the film. But yes, it does go a bit downhill... ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! when Smiff goes a bit nuts, basically. ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! oh yes, fuck me the scene after he went nuts and nearly kills himself, when he starts fucking quoting shrek, fucking hell man, youve nearly just died but the fucking makers want a classic will smith moment in a spot in doesnt even fit in.

Author:	metalangel [ Sat Sep 20, 2008 13:17 ]
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ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! The bit where he find himself in his kitchen with the woman and kid had me shaking my head, as I thought it was about to be revealed that SOMETHING was all a dream... either the epidemic, or the fact that he'd been rescued by them.

Author:	DBSnappa [ Tue Oct 07, 2008 18:22 ]
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OOooh ooooh oooh mr peevley. A chance to put this idea to the test again. Battlefield Earth, 2200hrs ITV4 tonight. Will you make it to the end? Disclaimer - I will probably record it as I have Chuck and Heroes to watch tonight. And, thinking about it, IIRC Once Upon A Time In America is on Film 4 tonight as well. I will definitely be recording that.

Author:	DBSnappa [ Wed Oct 08, 2008 10:15 ]
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So I take it none of you consumers of crap movies were prepared to stoop that low, eh? I didn't watch it either, tbh

Author:	MrChris [ Wed Oct 08, 2008 10:16 ]
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I've watched it before. I stuck in there because I wanted to watch the Harriers go WHOOSH PEW PEW. Fucking terrible film, though. Why do bad aliens always have big shoes?

Author:	DBSnappa [ Wed Oct 08, 2008 10:20 ]
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It's to hide their bastard mismatch of hooves and tentacles. I thought that was obvious.

Author:	MrChris [ Wed Oct 08, 2008 10:24 ]
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I want to see the hoovacles, though. Otherwise they're just Sixties throwbacks in bovver boots with wrinkly foreheads.

Author:	DBSnappa [ Wed Oct 08, 2008 10:35 ]
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I have a few friends that fit that description.

Author:	Malc [ Wed Oct 08, 2008 11:48 ]
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Oh, I would have watched that if I knew it was on... I watched "They live" recently, very slow starter and my Girlfriend didn't really like it, but I stuck with it, and although it was very cheesy I quite enjoyed it. I also watched "Lucky number Slevin" Which doesn't belong in this thread so I won't mention it here. Malc

Author:	MrChris [ Wed Oct 08, 2008 11:49 ]
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"Lucky Number Slevin" was eyebleedingly terrible. However, its terribleness crept up on you during the film, as it started out promisingly. But by the end I wanted to KILL THEM WITH SPOONS. Especially that lead bloke - the one with the FACE. Gah. But I watched it all the way through, regardless. Morgan Freeman's fault, really.

Author:	Shin [ Wed Oct 08, 2008 11:55 ]
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Zodiac...I was really really unimpressed and frankly annoyed! Se7en was a brilliant bloody film and Zodiac promised, but did not deliver! It was sooo long aswell >.<

Author:	Zardoz [ Wed Oct 08, 2008 11:56 ]
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They Live! is awesome.

Author:	RuySan [ Wed Oct 08, 2008 12:27 ]
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Rodafowa wrote: Bobbyaro wrote: The problem with these book/comic to film conversions is that (nowadays) there isn't enough scope in a film to give depth. You can't have extended monologues, etc describing what someone is thinking, why they are doing something, so you lose the depth and history of a chracter, meaning you have little connection with them. You need internal monologues to tell you what a character's thinking in a comic because it's difficult to show nuances of expression. In a film, giving you something of a window into what's going on in a character's head is pretty much an actor's primary job (unless you've cast Canoe Reeves, of course). . that was my main objection with Dexter. Any tv show or film with monologues is simply writing retarded on their viewers forehead

Author:	Morte [ Wed Oct 08, 2008 13:01 ]
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Pah, none of you watched Roadhouse that was on Virgin1 last night and true to my word once I found it was on I watched it to the end. Oh and 'They Live' is a classic film.

Author:	Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Oct 08, 2008 13:04 ]
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RuySan wrote: that was my main objection with Dexter. Any tv show or film with monologues is simply writing retarded on their viewers forehead BZZT WRONG. The Dexter monologues are excellence.

Author:	Cras [ Wed Oct 08, 2008 13:25 ]
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RuySan wrote: Any tv show or film with monologues is simply writing retarded on their viewers forehead That entirely depends whether they are using the monologues to tell you things you should already be able to work out, or to add to the story.

Author:	RuySan [ Wed Oct 08, 2008 13:28 ]
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Shin wrote: Zodiac...I was really really unimpressed and frankly annoyed! Se7en was a brilliant bloody film and Zodiac promised, but did not deliver! It was sooo long aswell >.< i disagree. Zodiac was very good

Author:	Curiosity [ Wed Oct 08, 2008 13:41 ]
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Craster wrote: RuySan wrote: Any tv show or film with monologues is simply writing retarded on their viewers forehead That entirely depends whether they are using the monologues to tell you things you should already be able to work out, or to add to the story. As dirty as it makes me feel, I agree with Craster.

Author:	Cras [ Wed Oct 08, 2008 13:55 ]
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Everyone agrees with me in the end. Now go find yourself a purty badger.

Author:	Bobbyaro [ Wed Oct 08, 2008 13:57 ]
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I watched 3 films on the way to the states, including The Happening so I could see how bad it was. Christ on a bike, what a bunch of arse. Nothing happened in the entire film. Absolutely nothing, what genre was it supposed to be? And as for that bird, (Deschanel?) her acting was so good, it reminded me of Liz Hurley in Austin Powers.

Author:	Dimrill [ Wed Oct 08, 2008 13:57 ]
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I watched Children of the Living Dead. Now that's a bad film.

Author:	DBSnappa [ Wed Oct 08, 2008 14:13 ]
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RuySan wrote: that was my main objection with Dexter. Any tv show or film with monologues is simply writing retarded on their viewers forehead There's a big difference between voiceover as exposition and internal monologues as a window into the mind of the principal character, particularly one who's main window onto the world is one that is necessarily poker faced and detached. Granted, exposition is a bit of a no no in script writing and I can understand an assumption that it is all bad, but sometimes it works if it's being written by smart writers. Hell, The Usual Suspects worked really well and that was pretty much dependent on exposition. Dexter is good, if not one of the best shows on TV at the moment and being able to listen to the dichotomous internal dialogues of Dexter does nothing but enrich the show.

Author:	KovacsC [ Wed Oct 08, 2008 14:35 ]
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Shin wrote: The Punisher I hated-this makes me sad as I love Marvel e.t.c which punisher.... there were two.