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Author:  The Rev Owen [ Mon Oct 26, 2009 18:03 ]
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Yeah, the way the Saw movies are part of a complex continuing plot is just fucking weird. I can never remember what happened at the beginning of the movie when I'm twenty minutes in, so how am I going to remember the plot from one year to the next?

It doesn't help that I've not actually seen one of them, but I don't know which one. It's either the second or third one, I think, but I'm not sure.

Author:  The Rev Owen [ Mon Oct 26, 2009 18:04 ]
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AND! Two of the main recurring characters look pretty much exactly the same, which really doesn't help matters. In the last movie (or last but one, I forget) one of them got wounded near the beginning, at least, so I could tell them apart by looking for a bandage.

Author:  devilman [ Mon Oct 26, 2009 18:11 ]
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The Rev Owen wrote:
AND! Two of the main recurring characters look pretty much exactly the same, which really doesn't help matters. In the last movie (or last but one, I forget) one of them got wounded near the beginning, at least, so I could tell them apart by looking for a bandage.


That post looks familiar ;)

Author:  MrChris [ Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:38 ]
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RE: Exctionction was poor. I am annoyed. And what an unresolved ending! GAAAAH.

Author:  sinister agent [ Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:16 ]
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Zio wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Grim... wrote:
The first Saw movie was superb, I thought. The rest, not so much.
I agree.

What baffles me about the Saw sequels is that the obvious road to take was the "no plot, more gore" but instead they've gone down "more gore and MOAR POWAR TO THE PLOT ENGINES CAPTAIN". Now they have some sort of enormous elaborate intertwining plot structure, where half of Saw III takes place before Saw I and half of Saw IV takes place during WWII and half of Saw XVII takes place in a galaxy far, far away and Everyman Blokeface dies in Saw II but in Saw III he is revealed he was really the villain and he's not dead but actually he is dead and this is a flashback but in Saw IV it turns out he was undercover but in Saw V there's a double-double cross and he's really still alive after all and it was all a bad dream. And no-one cares.


SPOILERS FFS!


I am personally looking forward to Saw 9: Saws of the Patriots.

Author:  Zardoz [ Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:21 ]
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Mr Chris wrote:
RE: Exctionction was poor. I am annoyed.

LOL
Mr Chris wrote:
And what an unresolved ending!

Caught before climax?

Author:  MrChris [ Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:33 ]
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Zardoz wrote:
Mr Chris wrote:
RE: Exctionction was poor. I am annoyed.

LOL


Oh hush. I enjoyed the first two so it was a reasonable bet the third should be ok. But it wasn't. No real plot (even by RE standards, I mean), and no real budget, either, if the sets and effects were anything to go by.

Quote:
Mr Chris wrote:
And what an unresolved ending!

Caught before climax?


There could never have been a climax.

Annoyingly they didn't have Outpost, so I'm ordering it off Amazon Marketplace.

Author:  The Rev Owen [ Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:37 ]
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I liked RE: Extinction at the time, but can barely remember anything about it.

Author:  Mr Russell [ Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:47 ]
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The people who make Saw have said that it will stop at 7.

I watched Saw 6 last night, and thought it was pretty good. The plot continues well. The whole 'which character am I looking at because they look the same' problem is gone, and there's a lot of people involved in the game.

I do not know how they will carry on for a 7th though.

Author:  NervousPete [ Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:49 ]
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I saw The Fantastic Mr Fox last night, and thought that it was indeed Fantastic.

Funniest Wes Anderson film since Life Aquatic, with the same dysfunctional family issues and idiosyncratic 'different' characters, but with extra warmth and humour for the all. The sight gags are excellent, the design luscious and the entire thing quite charming. Everything was hand-animated and quite beautiful and old skool, even the explosions were cotton wool. The actions sequences often looked like ace lo-fi platform games! All the usual excellent voices as well, including Bill Murray.

Lots of good quoting material too. I hugely enjoyed it, and the 'Where the Wild Things Are' trailer. If you hate Wes films, I still reckon there's a chance you'd like this. I'm sure there were a couple of Oliver Postgate references too.

Four out of Five.

Anyone who doesn't like it is disloyal.

Author:  Runcle [ Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:58 ]
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The Rev Owen wrote:
AND! Two of the main recurring characters look pretty much exactly the same, which really doesn't help matters. In the last movie (or last but one, I forget) one of them got wounded near the beginning, at least, so I could tell them apart by looking for a bandage.


thats saw 4 isn't it?' made worse that ones the good guy and ones the bad guy.

The saw series would have been alot better without there trying ot be a plot I think. everyone wacthes it for the traps anyway.

All they needed to do was have the main villian bloke, the doll, traps, people in the traps, lots of blood and gore, some police and every one of them should have ended in some ludicrous esape by the main villain. But now you need to watch all the previous ones because you can never remember anything from them because all the characters are featureless boring cretins.
Says alot when the two most recogniseable characters are a doll and a guy thats been dead for 3 films.

Author:  BikNorton [ Wed Oct 28, 2009 13:08 ]
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Mr Russell wrote:
The people who make Saw have said that it will stop at 7.
Though they can always do side-quals.

Chainsaw.
Circular saw.


Junior Hacksaw.

Author:  NervousPete [ Wed Oct 28, 2009 13:09 ]
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BikNorton wrote:
Mr Russell wrote:
The people who make Saw have said that it will stop at 7.
Though they can always do side-quals.

Chainsaw.
Circular saw.


Junior Hacksaw.


Jigsaw.

No, wait.

Author:  DavPaz [ Wed Oct 28, 2009 13:09 ]
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NervousPete wrote:
'Where the Wild Things Are' trailer.


SQUEE!

Author:  devilman [ Wed Oct 28, 2009 13:15 ]
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Runcle wrote:
The Rev Owen wrote:
AND! Two of the main recurring characters look pretty much exactly the same, which really doesn't help matters. In the last movie (or last but one, I forget) one of them got wounded near the beginning, at least, so I could tell them apart by looking for a bandage.


thats saw 4 isn't it?' made worse that ones the good guy and ones the bad guy.



Saw V I believe. Shows the confusion of the series though.

Author:  Zio [ Wed Oct 28, 2009 13:20 ]
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I really should actually watch the Saw movies. I've seen the first, but it was such a long time ago I forget what happens in it. I've somehow been equating it in my mind with the Hostel movies and have such avoided them since I'm not really a fan of these torture-porn things.

Author:  NervousPete [ Wed Oct 28, 2009 13:20 ]
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MrDavPaz wrote:
NervousPete wrote:
'Where the Wild Things Are' trailer.


SQUEE!


It looks to be everything you've ever hoped.

"You're not really a king... are you?" *sniffle*

Seriously, go see Mr Fox. You get the trailer (and two terrible ones, sorry - the Michael Jackson film and Alvin & the Chipmunks two - Christsakes) and one deeply charming film.

Author:  Cras [ Wed Oct 28, 2009 13:23 ]
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NervousPete wrote:
I saw The Fantastic Mr Fox last night, and thought that it was indeed Fantastic.

Funniest Wes Anderson film since Life Aquatic, with the same dysfunctional family issues and idiosyncratic 'different' characters, but with extra warmth and humour for the all. The sight gags are excellent, the design luscious and the entire thing quite charming. Everything was hand-animated and quite beautiful and old skool, even the explosions were cotton wool. The actions sequences often looked like ace lo-fi platform games! All the usual excellent voices as well, including Bill Murray.


For some reason I read that as "Funniest Wes Craven film....", which would have been odd.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Oct 28, 2009 13:25 ]
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Runcle wrote:
All they needed to do was have the main villian bloke, the doll, traps, people in the traps, lots of blood and gore, some police and every one of them should have ended in some ludicrous esape by the main villain.
This is what I thought they'd do, and it'd be a lot less work. Somewhere around Saw III when they started messing around with the chronology it sunk in that they'd gone totally the other way and just ladelled as much plot as possible onto the thing.

Glad I'm not the only one who can't tell which character is which though.

Author:  DavPaz [ Wed Oct 28, 2009 13:37 ]
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NervousPete wrote:
MrDavPaz wrote:
NervousPete wrote:
'Where the Wild Things Are' trailer.


SQUEE!


It looks to be everything you've ever hoped.

"You're not really a king... are you?" *sniffle*

Seriously, go see Mr Fox. You get the trailer (and two terrible ones, sorry - the Michael Jackson film and Alvin & the Chipmunks two - Christsakes) and one deeply charming film.

I saw the trailer with... the last movie I saw at the pictures... which was...

*punches memory gland*

Shit... it was Harry Potter. I was *made* to go, I promise!

Author:  NervousPete [ Wed Oct 28, 2009 13:45 ]
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MrDavPaz wrote:
I saw the trailer with... the last movie I saw at the pictures... which was...

*punches memory gland*

Shit... it was Harry Potter. I was *made* to go, I promise!


Nowt wrong with going to see Potter, they're enjoyable flicks. :)

Author:  DavPaz [ Wed Oct 28, 2009 13:51 ]
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I know, but it's first one I went to the cinema to see. The rest I have enjoyed on HD-DVD (for £3 each, no less)

Author:  sinister agent [ Wed Oct 28, 2009 14:53 ]
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Ooh, I didn't realise Fantastic Mr. Fox was out yet. To the cinemobile!

Author:  Grim... [ Wed Oct 28, 2009 15:06 ]
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NervousPete wrote:
[...]The Fantastic Mr Fox[...]Everything was hand-animated and quite beautiful and old skool, even the explosions were cotton wool.

Hang on - the explosions?

Author:  Grim... [ Wed Oct 28, 2009 15:07 ]
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MrDavPaz wrote:
I know, but it's first one I went to the cinema to see. The rest I have enjoyed on HD-DVD (for £3 each, no less)

Hi5, fellow bargain fan!

Author:  NervousPete [ Wed Oct 28, 2009 15:10 ]
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Grim... wrote:
NervousPete wrote:
[...]The Fantastic Mr Fox[...]Everything was hand-animated and quite beautiful and old skool, even the explosions were cotton wool.

Hang on - the explosions?


Actually, thinking about it, there's three you'd properly count. All absolutely story integral and not excessive. This movie is far from Hollywood.

Author:  DavPaz [ Wed Oct 28, 2009 15:12 ]
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Grim... wrote:
MrDavPaz wrote:
I know, but it's first one I went to the cinema to see. The rest I have enjoyed on HD-DVD (for £3 each, no less)

Hi5, fellow bargain fan!


o/\0

Author:  Runcle [ Wed Oct 28, 2009 15:46 ]
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MrDavPaz wrote:
Grim... wrote:
MrDavPaz wrote:
I know, but it's first one I went to the cinema to see. The rest I have enjoyed on HD-DVD (for £3 each, no less)

Hi5, fellow bargain fan!


o/\0


whos got the big head?

Author:  Cras [ Wed Oct 28, 2009 16:18 ]
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Oh, that's a hi5? I thought it was a 'turning-nose-up' zing.

Author:  DavPaz [ Wed Oct 28, 2009 17:19 ]
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Craster wrote:
Oh, that's a hi5? I thought it was a 'turning-nose-up' zing.

As if I would do such a thing to Sir Grimothy of Southshire

Author:  Zardoz [ Wed Oct 28, 2009 18:29 ]
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More chars than just typing Hi5 though.

Kids of today, etc...

Author:  DavPaz [ Wed Oct 28, 2009 21:32 ]
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For the record. the larger head belongs to the Big Man on Campus...

Author:  YOG [ Sun Nov 01, 2009 23:20 ]
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Saw 'The Mist' last night. Didn't think much of it in the main, but I have a major chubby on for grim-as-fuck endings, so I was rather impressed with that.

Author:  NervousPete [ Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:01 ]
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Klatrymadon wrote:
Saw 'The Mist' last night. Didn't think much of it in the main, but I have a major chubby on for grim-as-fuck endings, so I was rather impressed with that.


I frankly found that film almost unbearably tense, frightening and chilling - and was fully expecting the cruel ending to come loping along. One of the best horror movies I've ever seen, certainly the scariest 'invasion' movie.

Anyone seen Mr Fox yet then? Eh? EH?

Author:  DavPaz [ Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:53 ]
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I watched Quarantine yesterday. I wanted a scary movie for the weekend, heard about [REC] and thought, balls to it, if it's shot for shot, I'd rather not read the subtitles, ta.

Nice and tense and atmospheric, until the little girl starts waving her arms around, that is.

Author:  Zardoz [ Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:05 ]
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I finally watched Wall-E yesterday. Absolutely fantastic. Loved it.

Especially his Mac start up chime when he's recharged :D

Author:  Cras [ Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:28 ]
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NervousPete wrote:
Anyone seen Mr Fox yet then? Eh? EH?


My mum has. She said it was over-americanised and a bit pants.

Author:  NervousPete [ Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:58 ]
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Craster wrote:
NervousPete wrote:
Anyone seen Mr Fox yet then? Eh? EH?


My mum has. She said it was over-americanised and a bit pants.


Your mother be wrong.

Though the animals are certainly American, it oddly works for me.

Author:  kalmar [ Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:58 ]
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Zombieland was pretty good.

Author:  Cras [ Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:01 ]
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NervousPete wrote:
Your mother be wrong.


At least she knows which Firefly episodes are the good ones.

Well, she doesn't, but you get my point.

Author:  markg [ Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:10 ]
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Finally saw Moon last night, I thought it was amazing.
ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view!
The part after he calls home and sits in his rover looking up at the Earth :'( :'(


2009 has to be the best year for sci-fi films for a very long time what with Star Trek, District 9 and Moon.

Author:  Grim... [ Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:14 ]
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Craster wrote:
NervousPete wrote:
Anyone seen Mr Fox yet then? Eh? EH?


My mum has. She said it was over-americanised and a bit pants.

On the side of a happy meal box there was a picture of Mr Fox riding a motorbike. With his wife. And his son. You fucking what?

Author:  BikNorton [ Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:24 ]
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markg wrote:
Finally saw Moon last night, I thought it was amazing.
ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view!
The part after he calls home and sits in his rover looking up at the Earth :'( :'(
2009 has to be the best year for sci-fi films for a very long time what with Star Trek, District 9 and Moon.
Two weeks 'til BluRay. Hurry the fuck up, Mr and/or Mrs The Universe.

Author:  markg [ Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:24 ]
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markg wrote:
Finally saw Moon last night, I thought it was amazing.
ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view!
The part after he calls home and sits in his rover looking up at the Earth :'( :'(


2009 has to be the best year for sci-fi films for a very long time what with Star Trek, District 9 and Moon.

I just found out that the director, Duncan Jones is David Bowie's son. Also:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duncan_Jon ... t_projects

"Jones is currently planning a follow up film, which will serve as an epilogue to Moon. "Sam has agreed to do a little cameo in the next film," says Jones,[8] who ultimately hopes to do three films in the Moon series."

Ace.

Author:  kalmar [ Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:27 ]
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A sequel? Oh no no no. Don't ruin it!

Author:  markg [ Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:28 ]
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How would another story set in the same future ruin the first film?

Author:  kalmar [ Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:34 ]
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markg wrote:
How would another story set in the same future ruin the first film?


Well, it wouldn't, I just think it might ruin the setting.
ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view!
At the end of Moon he's on his way back to earth, and you hear via the radio chatter that the cat is out of the bag about what the corporation was up to.
I suppose don't want to know what happens "afterwards", as the story was quite perfect by itself.

Author:  Malabelm [ Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:35 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Craster wrote:
NervousPete wrote:
Anyone seen Mr Fox yet then? Eh? EH?


My mum has. She said it was over-americanised and a bit pants.

On the side of a happy meal box there was a picture of Mr Fox riding a motorbike. With his wife. And his son. You fucking what?


I refuse to watch that, regardless of how good anybody says it is. It was one of my favourite childhood books, and I shan't taint my memories.

Author:  markg [ Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:36 ]
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kalmar wrote:
markg wrote:
How would another story set in the same future ruin the first film?


ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view!
Well, it wouldn't, I just think it might ruin the setting. At the end of Moon he's on his way back to earth, and you hear via the radio chatter that the cat is out of the bag about what the corporation was up to. I suppose don't want to know what happens "afterwards", as the story was quite perfect by itself
.

OMFG SPOILZ DUDE

Author:  Rodafowa [ Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:42 ]
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NervousPete wrote:
Klatrymadon wrote:
Saw 'The Mist' last night. Didn't think much of it in the main, but I have a major chubby on for grim-as-fuck endings, so I was rather impressed with that.


I frankly found that film almost unbearably tense, frightening and chilling - and was fully expecting the cruel ending to come loping along. One of the best horror movies I've ever seen, certainly the scariest 'invasion' movie.

Pete has the truth of it. The Mist is fucking sensational. Re-watched it in black and white a few weeks ago and it's almost a different film, with a weird Fifties monster-movie aesthetic.

Oooh, I'd forgotten about Moon. That's going on the Chrimbo list.

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