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 Post subject: Re: Dark Souls
PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 20:22 
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In thats the case it's basically a test to see if you have learnt that you never, ever, run towards the bad guys. You walk. Shield up. Sizing them up. Patience. Patience. Patience.


Yeah, then while you're doing that a draggin appears directly behind you and roasts you with no warning or chance to dodge or run away. As I repeatedly keep pointing out.

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No, that didn't happen, I inched forward as there was a load of bad guys and I was looking for a bonfire (having just killed the demon - which I didn't want to have to repeat) and without warning, I got killed.

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No, that didn't happen, I inched forward as there was a load of bad guys and I was looking for a bonfire (having just killed the demon - which I didn't want to have to repeat) and without warning, I got killed.

You don't have to repeat the demon, though.


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Bobbyaro wrote:
No, that didn't happen, I inched forward as there was a load of bad guys and I was looking for a bonfire (having just killed the demon - which I didn't want to have to repeat) and without warning, I got killed.


If you're in doubt as to what might be ahead, sometimes it's worth retracing your steps back to the previous bonfire... depends how cautious/confident you are. I get edgier the further away from a bonfire I am.

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 Post subject: Re: Dark Souls
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I can't remember what tipped me off to the dragon, but there was definately something.


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 Post subject: Re: Dark Souls
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Mr Dave wrote:
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No, that didn't happen, I inched forward as there was a load of bad guys and I was looking for a bonfire (having just killed the demon - which I didn't want to have to repeat) and without warning, I got killed.

You don't have to repeat the demon, though.

I know that now, but I didn't at the time It was an example of why I was being cautious
@ devilman, yeah but I thghthat would respawn the demon.

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 Post subject: Re: Dark Souls
PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 20:35 
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In thats the case it's basically a test to see if you have learnt that you never, ever, run towards the bad guys. You walk. Shield up. Sizing them up. Patience. Patience. Patience.


Yeah, then while you're doing that a draggin appears directly behind you and roasts you with no warning or chance to dodge or run away. As I repeatedly keep pointing out.


It was 130 hrs of play ago, and i can't remember properly. But I'm certain he didn't kill me when he appeared. Just the guys ahead of me.

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 Post subject: Re: Dark Souls
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Dr Lave wrote:
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In thats the case it's basically a test to see if you have learnt that you never, ever, run towards the bad guys. You walk. Shield up. Sizing them up. Patience. Patience. Patience.


Yeah, then while you're doing that a draggin appears directly behind you and roasts you with no warning or chance to dodge or run away. As I repeatedly keep pointing out.


It was 130 hrs of play ago, and i can't remember properly. But I'm certain he didn't kill me when he appeared. Just the guys ahead of me.


I was lucky as I had less flammable clothes on when he did the cunt's trick. I definitely didn't see him coming other than a shadow half a second before toastage. Even going back up there now results in him getting 2-3 fire blasts on me before I can run the length to the safe stairs. I have been using him for collecting souls though, as you can pop down the ladder to the bonfire, rest, run back up and collect 300 souls from him killing the resurrected spearmen. Rinse and repeat.

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I think I must have got lucky on my game. The dragon was perched when I first got there and I think I made it to the ladder without the dragon even flinching. I'm not sure what triggers it into action sometimes - it seems to be quite content to leave you alone early on, but every time I go there now, I have to be quick to avoid getting toasted.

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 Post subject: Re: Dark Souls
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Hmmm, Were there messages warning you that other players had left?

Do you both have orange soapstones? (If not the merchant under the boxes near the bonfire will sell you one.*)

Because if there aren't warnings there at the moment, using the orange soap stone to warn others would a) be a nice thing to do and b) has a tiny chance that it might net you some free humanity...

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come out the bonfire, kill the crossbow dude, back up, block and take down the dude who runs up the stairs. Head down, pull the attention of the guy behind the wood. Kill him and then move towards the two spear guys. Shoot one with bow if possible to pull one towards you. Kill him then head up to main courtyardy bit to kill the other.

Roll through the boxes and head down. Be careful of the guy behind the shelves. Head out for the merchant. Buy the orange soapstone

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 Post subject: Re: Dark Souls
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There probably were a few "beware of draggin" ones, but they were no doubt mixed in with "beware of hint" "needs wonderful weapon" "I did it!" and "praise the sun!" uselessnesses. Certainly no "beware of draggin appearing from nowhere behind you and toasting you" messages.

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 Post subject: Re: Dark Souls
PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 21:00 
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The signs are generally helpful, if you ignore them, chances are you'll miss something useful. Having looked at the area, it's rather charred, there was probably a sign telling me to beware of dragon, and there's a similar thing done in demons souls (where again there is forewarning of dragon and many charred bodies)

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 Post subject: Re: Dark Souls
PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 21:43 
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Dimrill wrote:
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In thats the case it's basically a test to see if you have learnt that you never, ever, run towards the bad guys. You walk. Shield up. Sizing them up. Patience. Patience. Patience.


Yeah, then while you're doing that a draggin appears directly behind you and roasts you with no warning or chance to dodge or run away. As I repeatedly keep pointing out.


I think you missed a step Lave. You edge forward, then you get the shadow and hear the wings AND FUCKING STAND STILL. The dragon swoops overhead and melts everyone in front.

There's a sweet spot where the event is triggered but you remain safe.

I agree with everything Lave's said about this game. You don't play Dark Souls like any other game: You never rush into battle and sometimes the best approach is to do nothing at all.

I remember the only reason i was ok at the dragon was a message that said "safe spot". I was reading it when the dragon swooped down. God bless the Dark Souls community! Need head, indeed.


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God bless the Dark Souls community! Need head, indeed.

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Yeah. True too.

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 Post subject: Re: Dark Souls
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God bless the Dark Souls community! Need head, indeed.

Amazing chest ahead.

That made me chuckle.


That was in front of bearded smith man with no legs, yes?

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 Post subject: Re: Dark Souls
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Mr Dave wrote:
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God bless the Dark Souls community! Need head, indeed.

Amazing chest ahead.

That made me chuckle.


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 Post subject: Re: Dark Souls
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Dimrill wrote:
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God bless the Dark Souls community! Need head, indeed.

Amazing chest ahead.

That made me chuckle.


That was in front of bearded smith man with no legs, yes?

No. It's at the end of Anor Londo.

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 Post subject: Re: Dark Souls
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I think you missed a step Lave. You edge forward, then you get the shadow and hear the wings AND FUCKING STAND STILL. The dragon swoops overhead and melts everyone in front.

Aye, that might have been it. I really can't remember.

I love this game so very, very much. It's everything i ever wanted.

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 Post subject: Re: Dark Souls
PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 17:35 
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The Bell Gargoyles were piss easy compared to the Taurus Cunt. Partly because you get room to actually dodge and get behind them, rather than be trapped on a shitty narrow corridor or a 2-penny-piece-wide tower.

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I can't believe you're still playing this.

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 Post subject: Re: Dark Souls
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He started playing this game as a boy...

...he will finish it as a man.

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He started playing this game bored...

...he will finish it even boredererr.

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The Bell Gargoyles were piss easy compared to the Taurus Cunt. Partly because you get room to actually dodge and get behind them, rather than be trapped on a shitty narrow corridor or a 2-penny-piece-wide tower.

Tower is plenty wide.

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Lightning chucking git after Viking Metalsmith Man? I done him over by standing behind the broken pillar and arrowing him to death.

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No. You'll know.

Actually if you've gone that way there's a few other bosses to kill before you have to go back to the one Dave is making reference to.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 18:41 
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Mr Dave wrote:
No, giant goat dude with dogs.


Ah the caprademon, the one boss I think is a bit shit. And bit unfair. A massive difficulty spike. Summon help for the fucker. After that plane sailing,

Also: what class are you two?

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Are we taking bets when he'll jack it in yet? I've got my two pound subscription money on Blightown.

I don't think he will - he's more tenacious than you'd give him credit for.

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 Post subject: Re: Dark Souls
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Well what a wonderfully fair and brilliantly designed boss battle that Capra Demon is! Got him on my third attempt by using the stairs. This game just gets worse and worse.

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That's the worst boss encounter in the game.

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Well what a wonderfully fair and brilliantly designed boss battle that Capra Demon is! Got him on my third attempt by using the stairs. This game just gets worse and worse.


Third attempt is very good going though. As Zardoz says, that's the most unfair bit of the game with cramped surroundings and lots of crap in the way. At least you've got that one out of the way.

You must be getting some enjoyment out of the game though? Or are you just persevering out of stubbornness?

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 Post subject: Re: Dark Souls
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I'm waiting for "fun" to start. After 11 hours I would've expected at least some, but it's the same old shit. Boring, ugly environments that are simply corridors funnelling you along. No storyline to keep up interest. Boring combat. Shitty cheap ambushes. Multiplayer dickheads invading the game and killing you.

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Boring combat.

8)

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Nothing better than killing them though.

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 Post subject: Re: Dark Souls
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I'm waiting for "fun" to start. After 11 hours I would've expected at least some, but it's the same old sweet. Boring, ugly environments that are simply corridors funnelling you along. No storyline to keep up interest. Boring combat. sweet cheap ambushes. Multiplayer dickheads invading the game and killing you.

You some kind of masochist. 11 hours hating something and all you can do is moan at people who actually love it?
Id suggest just trade or give it away and move on with your life...

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11 hours hating something and all you can do is moan at people who actually love it?


Otherwise known as giving your opinion on a game in a thread about said game?

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Yeah, I agree. This thread should only be positive, possibly shitting up every other thread with its glowing positivity. I'll shut up about how shit this game is.

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11 hours hating something and all you can do is moan at people who actually love it?


Otherwise known as giving your opinion on a game in a thread about said game?


Yeah, let him whinge. There's nothing more therapeutic than venting.

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 Post subject: Re: Dark Souls
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Campaign was about five hours wasn't it? Plus who said it wasn't enjoyable in parts?


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Umm, you? You basically moaned the whole way through it. By your own metric, you should have left the thread for positive comments only.

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Er, hang on a minute, he can moan all he likes. I've just said so. Plus, I think you're having selective memory failure about my BF3 comments.


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Yeah, I agree. This thread should only be positive, possibly sweet up every other thread with its glowing positivity. I'll shut up about how sweet this game is.


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I don't think we're going to get a Dark Souls dimlie at this rate...

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I don't think we're going to get a Dark Souls dimlie at this rate...

Dark Souls.


I wonder how much additional time everyone would have on the forum if you could just put :ds: and it have a dark souls dimlie appear - its 11 characters less ! Image

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For the record, I constantly play games I don't enjoy because I guess I just fucking love moaning. Nowt wrong with that! Well, I think so any way...


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Sorry if this has been done, but I'm not reading etc; do you need Gold to enjoy the online functions of Dark Souls on the Xbox 360?

I just started Demon's Souls, btw. I am enjoying muchly, but earlier I had to stop playing after I'd just heroically recovered 3000 souls only to then get killed by some dogs and then get killed again by the same dogs while trying to recover them once more. I did love the bit where you
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You are using the 'Ted' forum. Bill doesn't really exist any more. Bogus!
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RIP, Owen. RIP, MrC. RIP, Dimmers.

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