My new PC arrives on thursday and I am going to play Zeno Clash and Mirror's Edge and Crysis

Faster reponse times, better build quality etc. That's how they're marketted.

nice. What did you get?

It is just a gimic people buy in to. The same ones that say you can't use wireless mice or keyboards for games either. They buy then because they look good saying that i still want a deathadder mouse

It's not my choice of hardware, it's an insurance jobbie (a bit complicated), but it's a C2D 3.0ghz, 4gb of DDR2 ram, and a Radeon 4850 512mb.

they are gimics Jc. The keyboards are a good mouse is a good mouse whether it is classed as gaming or not

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MARTIN-LOGAN-ASCE ... 55fffbb056

So those are gimmicks too yes? because after all, you can get a set of speakers for about £30.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MARTIN-LOGAN-ASCE ... 55fffbb056

So those are gimmicks too yes? because after all, you can get a set of speakers for about £30.

From what I can gather the polling rate works in the same way that a mouse's polling rate does. And, with a mouse it makes a hell of a difference. My Razer mouse is set to 1000hz and if I lower it (via a switch on the bottom) it becomes less accurate. Specifically noticable when using Photoshop. It's far less accurate and less responsive.

Infact I just found this -



From here.

http://www.avforums.com/forums/windows- ... -rate.html

jc i like you but you do buy into the gaming bullshit.

Wow. 8ms? Let's take a game that runs at 60hz. Roughly 16.7ms. It takes twice as long to process and render a frame as it does for your keyboard to send the keypress. (of course, if you include all the OS shit it goes through the delay is possibly 3ms more at max). But really, your key press will be delayed by a single frame at most? You honestly won't even notice.

I imagine your little slider (why does it even have this? Why would you not want it on 'MAX!' ?) simply effects the imaging chip on the mouse, and means _its_ refresh rate is increasing, which would potential produce more accurate movement. But I doubt most people would notice.

FYI: My hi-fi has wooden knobs, it makes it sound better, see?


edit: fuck Mr Dave and his shorter-post-got-there-first business. FUCK IM.

This is why PC gaming has a bad reputation in many circles, you know. You give someone who mainly plays on a console a chance to talk about gaming, and they enthuse about Uncharted 2 or Dead Rising or Call of Duty or Resi 5. You give someone who mainly plays on a PC a chance to talk about gaming, and they bang on about a microchip that for four and half hours.

This is why PC gaming has a bad reputation in many circles, you know. You give someone who mainly plays on a console a chance to talk about gaming, and they enthuse about Uncharted 2 or Dead Rising or Call of Duty or Resi 5. You give someone who mainly plays on a PC a chance to talk about gaming, and they bang on about a microchip that for four and half hours.

He got a PC! Christ. Talk about the games! The games are what matter.

I'm not sure we care about the price, JC. Hell, I paid £30 for my standard Apple keyboard, and feel that's absolutely worth it. People are just getting a bit confused about the claims these companies makeabout the hardware; specifically why they'd be genuinely any better than a standard keyboard, macros and comfort, bells and whistles aside. You can't really refute what Mr Dave was saying.

Part of the reason why we have this massive range of products and choice is down to things like this. Sure, they may not be what they're cracked up to be but as long as someone is happy with them and is paying for them fuelling an economy who gives a fuck?

I'm not taking any of it personally SA. I just find it a bit irritating. It's kinda like me walking into a thread about, let's say, a 360 game and then saying -

"but it's a FPS. It's no different to any other FPS right? So that means that if you paid £50 for Half Life all those years ago why spend £50 on this game? It's not worth it, etc, etc"

You could do that, but you'd be wrong.

Is CoD:MW2 anything like HL2 to play? No, requires a fairly different skill set.

as long as you are saying you are buying them for form rather than function. That is ok with me

what? I am agreeing with you now!

It's from a different genre of FPS sure. But I could easily jump on the bandwagon of all the other whiners and say it's nothing more than they have done already.

In the same way that I could bash Valve for making Left for dead 2 because hey, same name, same game only slightly different and £30 for the pleasure.

read what you want into it. I am not being smug. You finaly admitted that there are no or minimal functional differences between a decent normal keyboard and a gaming one. The latter just look better.

I'm ensing you havn't really read the thread in all that much depth. No-one has complained that nothing new has been added. Because it's pretty damn clear to even those of us who have not played it that considerable amounts have been added to the multiplayer.

Again no ones complained about it, just said that they're not getting it as it isn't worth it. Of course, given that L4D, like MW2, is primarily seen as a multiplayer game, having the appropriate mass of people to play it with is important, so knowing whether people are going to get it or not is also important.

They have said it over and over and over and over. And, it's all fallen on deaf ears. They have started petitions, written into several publications I read (to the point that Valve have responded) and so on. If someone dares to stand up to them and say "Well I'm fucking getting it" then they are instantly torn a new asshole. Seriously, take it from someone who knows it's almost at obsession levels. Kinda like the Jedward haters, whilst all of the fans sit back and laugh at how pathetic they are.

I am not trying to score points. So get your head out of your arse, and read your posts.

You spouted all sorts of rubbish about gaming keyboards.

I was just in one of those moods yesterday to correct you. As i would expect to be corrected when i talk balls (which i do a lot )

Sorry, I should've been more clear - no one here has really complained about it. The internet as a whole will endlessly complain about anything, regardless of merit. I tend to stick around here, as I know who's opinion I can generally trust here as I know many of them well.

I read them all a good few times actually. All I can see is me being forced to justify myself because a load of judgemental hammerhead sharks want to tell me I am wrong.

As usual for the internet

I use a gaming keyboard and mouse at home (and the same mouse at work). I like the mouse because it's heavy, and I like heavy mice. You can fiddle with the DPI and shit, but obviously I just leave it set to one thing all the time. The Gaming keyboard I keep because I like typing on it (although I wish the backlight would default to 'off'), and because it comes with a separate 'control pad' of 11 buttons that I've assigned to different programming commands. I let's me press more keys at one time that a normal keyboard would, but it certainly doesn't 'react' faster. By far the best way to make a keyboard do that would be to reduce the travel distance from the key to the sensor.