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| Author: | Kern [ Thu May 07, 2015 22:03 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General Election 2015 |
Flabber has been ghasted. |
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| Author: | ApplePieOfDestiny [ Thu May 07, 2015 22:03 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General Election 2015 |
Jesus H Christ. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Thu May 07, 2015 22:04 ] |
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Holy shit the exit polls! |
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| Author: | Kern [ Thu May 07, 2015 22:04 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General Election 2015 |
Ok, the Beeb's virtual Commons is creepy. |
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| Author: | MrChris [ Thu May 07, 2015 22:05 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General Election 2015 |
Watch Channel 4, Kern! And yes, holy fucking christ. WHAT IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY. |
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| Author: | ElephantBanjoGnome [ Thu May 07, 2015 22:06 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General Election 2015 |
316 for the Tories! Fuck me, cause to hope! |
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| Author: | ApplePieOfDestiny [ Thu May 07, 2015 22:06 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General Election 2015 |
Bizarre that the tories are still fucked, despite outperforming everything that anyone even contemplated if that exit poll is correct. Election Forecast never had them that high. |
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| Author: | Trooper [ Thu May 07, 2015 22:06 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General Election 2015 |
If that is true, labour and the SNP have fucked each other right over. |
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| Author: | MrChris [ Thu May 07, 2015 22:06 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General Election 2015 |
MaliA wrote: TEN!!!! This is making me deeply deeply unhappy. It's basically back to two party politics in England/Wales. |
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| Author: | MrChris [ Thu May 07, 2015 22:07 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General Election 2015 |
Trooper wrote: If that is true, labour and the SNP have fucked each other right over. And the Tories and SNP have eaten the LDs. |
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| Author: | ApplePieOfDestiny [ Thu May 07, 2015 22:07 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General Election 2015 |
Trooper wrote: If that is true, labour and the SNP have fucked each other right over. After 5 years of Tory/UKIP vote splitting being 'the issue'. |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Thu May 07, 2015 22:08 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General Election 2015 |
Gove: "an unprecedented vote of confidence in David Cameron's government" it's still less than a majority, you berk. |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Thu May 07, 2015 22:09 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General Election 2015 |
Trooper wrote: If that is true, labour and the SNP have fucked each other right over. No. 239 Lab + 58 SNP is 297, still a good chunk short of the Con 316 prediction. |
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| Author: | MrChris [ Thu May 07, 2015 22:09 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General Election 2015 |
ApplePieOfDestiny wrote: Trooper wrote: If that is true, labour and the SNP have fucked each other right over. After 5 years of Tory/UKIP vote splitting being 'the issue'. I seem to recall a clever chap of this shire suggesting that Cameron had played a blinder on the Scottish independence vote. It looks like he was even cleverer than we thought. |
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| Author: | MrChris [ Thu May 07, 2015 22:10 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General Election 2015 |
Doctor Glyndwr wrote: Trooper wrote: If that is true, labour and the SNP have fucked each other right over. No. 239 Lab + 58 SNP is 297, still a good chunk short of the Con 316 prediction. basically, all the people who didn't vote for clegg because of the graduate tax are to blame. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Thu May 07, 2015 22:10 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General Election 2015 |
Doctor Glyndwr wrote: Trooper wrote: If that is true, labour and the SNP have fucked each other right over. No. 239 Lab + 58 SNP is 297, still a good chunk short of the Con 316 prediction. huh? |
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| Author: | MrChris [ Thu May 07, 2015 22:11 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General Election 2015 |
Grim... wrote: Doctor Glyndwr wrote: Trooper wrote: If that is true, labour and the SNP have fucked each other right over. No. 239 Lab + 58 SNP is 297, still a good chunk short of the Con 316 prediction. huh? They can't have fucked each other because even if SNP hadn't taken seats off Labour Labour would still be well short of the cons. |
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| Author: | ApplePieOfDestiny [ Thu May 07, 2015 22:12 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General Election 2015 |
Suddenly some pretty major plans that I had for tomorrow are going right off the boil. |
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| Author: | MrChris [ Thu May 07, 2015 22:13 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General Election 2015 |
ApplePieOfDestiny wrote: Suddenly some pretty major plans that I had for tomorrow are going right off the boil. Are you not having to close down some tax dodges now? |
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| Author: | Kern [ Thu May 07, 2015 22:13 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General Election 2015 |
Miliband frankly is toast if that poll is correct. Losing the whole of Scotland?! And Clegg. Poor poor Clegg. |
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| Author: | Trooper [ Thu May 07, 2015 22:13 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General Election 2015 |
Mr Kissyfur wrote: Grim... wrote: Doctor Glyndwr wrote: Trooper wrote: If that is true, labour and the SNP have fucked each other right over. No. 239 Lab + 58 SNP is 297, still a good chunk short of the Con 316 prediction. huh? They can't have fucked each other because even if SNP hadn't taken seats off Labour Labour would still be well short of the cons. But if they hadn't split the vote so much, a large labour could have got over the line with the lib dems and others. |
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| Author: | MrChris [ Thu May 07, 2015 22:14 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General Election 2015 |
Kern wrote: Miliband frankly is toast if that poll is correct. Losing the whole of Scotland?! Post independence vote that was always, always going to happen. Chips have a lot of power. Quote: And Clegg. Poor poor Clegg. This. Very much this. It is so thoroughly depressing. |
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| Author: | MrChris [ Thu May 07, 2015 22:15 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General Election 2015 |
Trooper wrote: Mr Kissyfur wrote: Grim... wrote: Doctor Glyndwr wrote: Trooper wrote: If that is true, labour and the SNP have fucked each other right over. No. 239 Lab + 58 SNP is 297, still a good chunk short of the Con 316 prediction. huh? They can't have fucked each other because even if SNP hadn't taken seats off Labour Labour would still be well short of the cons. But if they hadn't split the vote so much, a large labour could have got over the line with the lib dems and others. No, given that libs only have 10. |
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| Author: | ApplePieOfDestiny [ Thu May 07, 2015 22:15 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General Election 2015 |
Mr Kissyfur wrote: ApplePieOfDestiny wrote: Suddenly some pretty major plans that I had for tomorrow are going right off the boil. Are you not having to close down some tax dodges now? Was meeting a recruitment pimp for a 'chat about my future'. But yes, we've lost significant potential income if the Tories win |
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| Author: | Kern [ Thu May 07, 2015 22:15 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General Election 2015 |
Suppose we might as well start preparing for the next Scottish referendum then. |
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| Author: | ElephantBanjoGnome [ Thu May 07, 2015 22:16 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General Election 2015 |
10 Lib Dem seats would seal a coalition to put the Tories over the line. They have no reason not to and if a party of only 10 seats can have influence in government they'd going to take it. Wow, this is mad. But exit polls have been wrong before. This one might be a far overestimation too. Where's Cavey? I imagine his head has exploded off his shoulders. |
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| Author: | Kern [ Thu May 07, 2015 22:17 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General Election 2015 |
Am I the only guy watching BBC1? |
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| Author: | ElephantBanjoGnome [ Thu May 07, 2015 22:18 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General Election 2015 |
I'm currently watching Paddy Ashdown say he'll eat his hat if the exit poll is correct. |
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| Author: | Trooper [ Thu May 07, 2015 22:20 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General Election 2015 |
Mr Kissyfur wrote: Trooper wrote: Mr Kissyfur wrote: Grim... wrote: Doctor Glyndwr wrote: Trooper wrote: If that is true, labour and the SNP have fucked each other right over. No. 239 Lab + 58 SNP is 297, still a good chunk short of the Con 316 prediction. huh? They can't have fucked each other because even if SNP hadn't taken seats off Labour Labour would still be well short of the cons. But if they hadn't split the vote so much, a large labour could have got over the line with the lib dems and others. No, given that libs only have 10. And others... Green, plaid, etc... Can Cameron push for a minority government with promises, rather than a formal coalition? |
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| Author: | ApplePieOfDestiny [ Thu May 07, 2015 22:20 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General Election 2015 |
Same. I'd have stayed with C4 if the exit poll was as predicted previously. Now I want proper news. |
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| Author: | ElephantBanjoGnome [ Thu May 07, 2015 22:21 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General Election 2015 |
A very hoarse Nick Robinson is being very punchy and aggressive in his commentary. I do love old Dimbles, he's so top. |
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| Author: | ApplePieOfDestiny [ Thu May 07, 2015 22:21 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General Election 2015 |
Harman seems to be accepting that the Exit poll is correct. |
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| Author: | MrChris [ Thu May 07, 2015 22:22 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General Election 2015 |
Trooper wrote: Can Cameron push for a minority government with promises, rather than a formal coalition? He could form a minority government with 316, but would then have to fight off a no confidence vote. How accurate were the exit polls in 2010? |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Thu May 07, 2015 22:22 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General Election 2015 |
I really need Galloway to get ridden out in a rail now. Shitfucks |
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| Author: | ApplePieOfDestiny [ Thu May 07, 2015 22:22 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General Election 2015 |
Robinson has Lung Cancer. I'm amazed he's still broadcasting. |
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| Author: | ElephantBanjoGnome [ Thu May 07, 2015 22:22 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General Election 2015 |
A no confidence vote in favour of what? LabNP can't do fuck all with these numbers. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Thu May 07, 2015 22:23 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General Election 2015 |
Mr Kissyfur wrote: Grim... wrote: Doctor Glyndwr wrote: Trooper wrote: If that is true, labour and the SNP have fucked each other right over. No. 239 Lab + 58 SNP is 297, still a good chunk short of the Con 316 prediction. huh? They can't have fucked each other because even if SNP hadn't taken seats off Labour Labour would still be well short of the cons. Gotcha. |
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| Author: | ElephantBanjoGnome [ Thu May 07, 2015 22:23 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General Election 2015 |
ApplePieOfDestiny wrote: Robinson has Lung Cancer. I'm amazed he's still broadcasting. Really? Sweet jesus, I had no idea. He's not a smoker is he? |
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| Author: | MrChris [ Thu May 07, 2015 22:23 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General Election 2015 |
answer my own question - in 2010 they were very accurate. But 140 polling stations with 22000 being surveyed is probably not enough to get any level of accuracy in this particular election. |
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| Author: | MrChris [ Thu May 07, 2015 22:24 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General Election 2015 |
ElephantBanjoGnome wrote: A no confidence vote in favour of what? LabNP can't do fuck all with these numbers. It wouldn't matter. Two lost no confidence votes (which could happen in the course of a week) and it's another election. |
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| Author: | ElephantBanjoGnome [ Thu May 07, 2015 22:25 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General Election 2015 |
Harman is very salty given the only thing she has to say is that the ConLib might not have a majority, but that's not even true with the numbers on the table. |
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| Author: | ApplePieOfDestiny [ Thu May 07, 2015 22:26 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General Election 2015 |
ElephantBanjoGnome wrote: ApplePieOfDestiny wrote: Robinson has Lung Cancer. I'm amazed he's still broadcasting. Really? Sweet jesus, I had no idea. He's not a smoker is he? Aye You'll be overjoyed that the CyberNats trolled him over it. (Trolling story not in that article) |
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| Author: | ElephantBanjoGnome [ Thu May 07, 2015 22:27 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General Election 2015 |
Poor bugger. I can't say I'm that keen on him but lung cancer is a right fucker to have to deal with. |
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| Author: | Curiosity [ Thu May 07, 2015 22:28 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General Election 2015 |
that is genuinely shocking if they resemble the truth. Not just shy Tory voters, but massive, massive swathes of polled people pretending to vote Labour. |
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| Author: | Malc [ Thu May 07, 2015 22:29 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General Election 2015 |
Watching bbc too (sky pulsing c4) Absolutely stunned by the exit poll! |
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| Author: | MrChris [ Thu May 07, 2015 22:30 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General Election 2015 |
Curiosity wrote: that is genuinely shocking if they resemble the truth. Not just shy Tory voters, but massive, massive swathes of polled people pretending to vote Labour. They can't possibly resemble the truth. There are so many close seats that such a poll is going to miss out a lot of the nuance. |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Thu May 07, 2015 22:30 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General Election 2015 |
YouGov exit poll is very different CON 284 MPs, LAB 263, LIBS 31, SNP 48, UKIP 2, PLAID 3, GREEN 1 (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/general ... -live.html) Sampling is hard, and the rise of minority parties makes it far harder because we can have three-way marginal seats and no meaningful historical patterns to analyse. One of the BBC pollsters [url="http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/what-exit-poll-general-election-9205754"]said today[/url] that they are highly untrustworthy this time. |
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| Author: | Trooper [ Thu May 07, 2015 22:32 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General Election 2015 |
Mr Kissyfur wrote: ElephantBanjoGnome wrote: A no confidence vote in favour of what? LabNP can't do fuck all with these numbers. It wouldn't matter. Two lost no confidence votes (which could happen in the course of a week) and it's another election. He'll only be 7 promised votes short of winning that vote though, which shouldn't be too tricky to get from the dup and UKIP. |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Thu May 07, 2015 22:32 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General Election 2015 |
Is Bradford riding Galloway out on a rail? |
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| Author: | MrChris [ Thu May 07, 2015 22:32 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General Election 2015 |
If that YouGov one is right then Lib/Lab coalition could be in the offing, with SNP having to vote with them. |
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