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Author:  Satsuma [ Mon Mar 24, 2014 14:50 ]
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If any Assassin's Creeds are in the top 50 I'm going to say words at you.

Author:  myp [ Mon Mar 24, 2014 14:51 ]
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Saturnalian wrote:
If any Assassin's Creeds are in the top 50 I'm going to say words at you.

The votes will be split so they won't get a look in. :(

Author:  Satsuma [ Mon Mar 24, 2014 16:22 ]
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Sounds fair, by all accounts. :)

Author:  Curiosity [ Mon Mar 24, 2014 16:23 ]
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British Nervoso wrote:
Saturnalian wrote:
If any Assassin's Creeds are in the top 50 I'm going to say words at you.

The votes will be split so they won't get a look in. :(


They could do better in the "Constructors' Championship"

Author:  TheVision [ Mon Mar 24, 2014 16:28 ]
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Hmmm... This is difficult. There's a definite top 10 but then we have several games sharing the same spot. Let's see what I can do.

Author:  myp [ Mon Mar 24, 2014 16:30 ]
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TheVision wrote:
Hmmm... This is difficult. There's a definite top 10 but then we have several games sharing the same spot. Let's see what I can do.

If they're level on points then surely the ones with the most 1sts, then 2nds etc are ranked higher?

Author:  DavPaz [ Mon Mar 24, 2014 16:37 ]
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The process sounds EXCELlent

Author:  TheVision [ Mon Mar 24, 2014 16:40 ]
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British Nervoso wrote:
TheVision wrote:
Hmmm... This is difficult. There's a definite top 10 but then we have several games sharing the same spot. Let's see what I can do.

If they're level on points then surely the ones with the most 1sts, then 2nds etc are ranked higher?


Yeah, I'm looking at that now but there's a number of games that had 25 points awarded which all fall into the top 50.

We could have done with more votes but let me have a look. I'm trying to do it in between working.

Author:  zaphod79 [ Mon Mar 24, 2014 16:44 ]
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TheVision wrote:
We could have done with more votes but let me have a look. I'm trying to do it in between working.


That did happen the last time so the games at the very end of the list were some peoples 'top' game but got no other votes

(Original list number 50 was Hyper Sports which was my top rated game that time around - the list was tweaked later as some other things were grouped together)

Author:  Curiosity [ Mon Mar 24, 2014 16:44 ]
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PRIORITIES!

Author:  TheVision [ Mon Mar 24, 2014 16:46 ]
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7 games share the 19th spot.

Author:  DavPaz [ Mon Mar 24, 2014 16:55 ]
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TheVision wrote:
7 games share the 19th spot.

You should rank them based on age as old games suck.

Author:  TheVision [ Mon Mar 24, 2014 16:58 ]
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DavPaz wrote:
TheVision wrote:
7 games share the 19th spot.

You should rank them based on age as old games suck.


Of those 7 games, only 2 were released in the last generation.

Author:  zaphod79 [ Mon Mar 24, 2014 17:07 ]
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Is that after cutting them with 'number of 1st place votes > number of 2nd place votes > number of 3rd place votes" ?

If so then we have 7 games which are all equal 19th

Author:  TheVision [ Mon Mar 24, 2014 17:11 ]
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Yep. 19th place on our list is the magical '25 points' spot so, if you gave something 25 points and no one else voted for it then it will appear in 19th place.

Author:  Curiosity [ Mon Mar 24, 2014 17:15 ]
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Order by post count, obv.

Author:  Trooper [ Mon Mar 24, 2014 17:16 ]
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I didn't vote, give me the list of 19th place candidates and i'll order them for you and you can count that as my vote :D

Author:  zaphod79 [ Mon Mar 24, 2014 17:24 ]
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TheVision wrote:
Yep. 19th place on our list is the magical '25 points' spot so, if you gave something 25 points and no one else voted for it then it will appear in 19th place.


:-)

So assuming your doing this in a spreadsheet - what happens if you twist things around a little and have everyones points go back to 10.

So top choice = 10 / second = 9 etc so any of the other titles come up above that place ?

I do appreciate that someones top score is an important place but that's one person whereas if 4 peoples number 7 choice (6 points) ends behind them then that doesn't quite seem right ?

Author:  Trooper [ Mon Mar 24, 2014 17:27 ]
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zaphod79 wrote:
I do appreciate that someones top score is an important place but that's one person whereas if 4 peoples number 7 choice (6 points) ends behind them then that doesn't quite seem right ?


Not sure I agree. Assuming nobody has done a joke list, then a game that may be the absolute best in its genre, but maybe that genre isn't that widely played, has to be better than a more mediocre game in a genre that is more widely played, does it not?

Author:  zaphod79 [ Mon Mar 24, 2014 17:47 ]
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Trooper wrote:
zaphod79 wrote:
I do appreciate that someones top score is an important place but that's one person whereas if 4 peoples number 7 choice (6 points) ends behind them then that doesn't quite seem right ?


Not sure I agree. Assuming nobody has done a joke list, then a game that may be the absolute best in its genre, but maybe that genre isn't that widely played, has to be better than a more mediocre game in a genre that is more widely played, does it not?


I dont think given that people were restricted to 10 items that we'll get mediocre titles on here I do think that if an item is on there with 25 points and is not a single persons vote then it should be higher (personal opinion) and think for overall we can have :

Leave it as it is and yes we have all those at number 19 - so what
Tweak the numbers slightly and you'll move those possibly further back (10 points 1st 9 2nd etc) but you'll still have a group together - the last time round that group was around the 45 - 50 mark
Some other way to vote those out of that position - perhaps give everyone that list of 7 items and get people to vote for those ?

Author:  Bluecup [ Mon Mar 24, 2014 18:05 ]
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DEADLOCK VOTE OFF!

Author:  Mr Russell [ Mon Mar 24, 2014 19:02 ]
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Or, now that there's a clear top 25, we vote again, knowing that we need to cast our votes for those games that are actually in contention.

Author:  TheVision [ Tue Mar 25, 2014 11:51 ]
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I've compiled the top 20 and shall aim to post it this evening. I don't think a top 50 is feasible with the votes I've received.

Author:  myp [ Tue Mar 25, 2014 11:59 ]
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TheVision wrote:
I've compiled the top 20 and shall aim to post it this evening. I don't think a top 50 is feasible with the votes I've received.

That seems fair enough. It wouldn't be a good reflection if the turnout was low.

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Mar 25, 2014 12:31 ]
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TheVision wrote:
I've compiled the top 20 and shall aim to post it this evening. I don't think a top 50 is feasible with the votes I've received.

Because you only received stuff from two people?

Author:  TheVision [ Tue Mar 25, 2014 12:33 ]
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Grim... wrote:
TheVision wrote:
I've compiled the top 20 and shall aim to post it this evening. I don't think a top 50 is feasible with the votes I've received.

Because you only received stuff from two people?


You're a right one to talk!

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Mar 25, 2014 12:45 ]
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TheVision wrote:
Grim... wrote:
TheVision wrote:
I've compiled the top 20 and shall aim to post it this evening. I don't think a top 50 is feasible with the votes I've received.

Because you only received stuff from two people?

You're a right one to talk!

I'm compiling my own list. With hookers. And heroin. And the big list of our favorite games in our profiles.

Author:  myp [ Tue Mar 25, 2014 12:49 ]
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Grim... wrote:
And the big list of our favorite games in our profiles.

Sounds good. :insincere:

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Mar 25, 2014 12:58 ]
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Finished! There's an advantage to having all the answers already in a database.

It'll be (a tiny bit) interesting to see how they compare. I've got ten in my list, and 8 of them are in second position :D

Author:  myp [ Tue Mar 25, 2014 13:02 ]
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Can't wait to see where mine placed!

Author:  Mr Dave [ Tue Mar 25, 2014 13:56 ]
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British Nervoso wrote:
Can't wait to see where mine placed!

17. Try not to fart
Everything else didn't make it.

Author:  myp [ Tue Mar 25, 2014 13:57 ]
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Mr Dave wrote:
British Nervoso wrote:
Can't wait to see where mine placed!

17. Try not to fart
Everything else didn't make it.

I meant in Grim...'s list.

Author:  TheVision [ Wed Mar 26, 2014 0:51 ]
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Here it is. The actual top 20.

1. Dark Souls
2. The last of us
3. SWOS
4. The secret of Monkey Island
5. Portal 2
6. Shadow of the colossus
7. COD4
8. Elite
9. Civilization V
10. X-Com
11. GTA5
12. Heroes of Might and Magic 3
13. The legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
14. Batman: Arkham City
15. Tetris
16. Red dead redemption
17. Resident evil 4
18. Bubble bobble
19. Animal Crossing 3DS, Head over Heels, Hyper sports, Kirbys pinball land, Minecraft, WWF No Mercy, Transport tycoon
20. Just Cause 2

It's not that surprising is it?

Author:  Curiosity [ Wed Mar 26, 2014 1:00 ]
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This is like that time Robbie Williams won best album ever.

Surprisingly large drop for Resi 4.

Can't believe that Try Not To Fart didn't make it.

Author:  chinnyhill10 [ Wed Mar 26, 2014 1:33 ]
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TheVision wrote:
Here it is. The actual top 20.

1. Dark Souls
2. The last of us
3. SWOS
4. The secret of Monkey Island
5. Portal 2
6. Shadow of the colossus
7. COD4
8. Elite
9. Civilization V
10. X-Com
11. GTA5
12. Heroes of Might and Magic 3
13. The legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
14. Batman: Arkham City
15. Tetris
16. Red dead redemption
17. Resident evil 4
18. Bubble bobble
19. Animal Crossing 3DS, Head over Heels, Hyper sports, Kirbys pinball land, Minecraft, WWF No Mercy, Transport tycoon
20. Just Cause 2

It's not that surprising is it?


2009 Top 50 20 for comparison:

1. Resident Evil 4 - 46.5 *
2. Final Fantasy VII - 45.5 *
3. Sensible World Of Soccer - 41.5 *
4. Call Of Duty 4 - 37
5. The Secret of Monkey Island - 34.75 *
6. Goldeneye 007 - 32
7. OutRun 2/2006: Coast 2 Coast/Online Arcade [3] - 30 *
8. Wario Ware - 30
9. Super Mario Galaxy - 28.25 *
10. Doom - 27
11. Elite - 26
12. Civilisation IV - 25.25 *
13. Fallout 3 - 24
14. XCOM: UFO Defense - 24
15. Advance Wars Dual Strike - 23
16. Rock Band/Rock Band 2 - 22
17 Zelda: Ocarina of Time - 21.25 *
18. Ico - 21
19. Bubble Bobble - 19
20. Street Fighter 2 - 19 *

Author:  Malc [ Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:47 ]
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Surely just cause 2 should be 25th?

Unless we have can all American on how to rank lists?

Malc

Author:  zaphod79 [ Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:51 ]
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Tsk - Cookie you were suppose to vote for the best COD as well so it would make the list (COD7 was second in my list so just a few extra points would have put it somewhere into the top 20)

Author:  Bamba [ Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:55 ]
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I should probably have voted on this. Mrs B and I sat over dinner last weekend and worked out a shortlist and everything and then...I completely failed to follow up. I am a bad member Beex. :'(

Author:  Curiosity [ Wed Mar 26, 2014 10:12 ]
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FF7 from 2nd to unranked!!!

Author:  Mr Russell [ Wed Mar 26, 2014 10:13 ]
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Curiosity wrote:
FF7 from 2nd to unranked!!!


I noticed that one.

I'm going to put it down to fewer people voting though.

I bet Dark Souls 2 wouldn't feature in a couple of years though.

Author:  myp [ Wed Mar 26, 2014 10:15 ]
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Yeah, the sample size is so small it's pretty much useless, tbh. Thanks for trying though, Vision.

Author:  Mr Russell [ Wed Mar 26, 2014 10:16 ]
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Except now more people want to put their votes in. eg Bamba. So it should be updated again.

Author:  myp [ Wed Mar 26, 2014 10:17 ]
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Mr Russell wrote:
Except now more people want to put their votes in. eg Bamba. So it should be updated again.

They had two weeks - what is wrong with them?

Author:  TheVision [ Wed Mar 26, 2014 10:23 ]
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British Nervoso wrote:
Yeah, the sample size is so small it's pretty much useless, tbh. Thanks for trying though, Vision.


You're welcome. My pleasure.

Author:  Mr Dave [ Wed Mar 26, 2014 10:54 ]
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Mr Russell wrote:
Curiosity wrote:
FF7 from 2nd to unranked!!!


I noticed that one.

I'm going to put it down to fewer people voting though.

I bet Dark Souls 2 wouldn't feature in a couple of years though.

Dark Souls 2 has only just been released, and isn't as good as dark Souls anyway.

And frankly, I'm doubtful anything will ever be released that I think is better.

Author:  Mr Russell [ Wed Mar 26, 2014 10:57 ]
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Where did Horace Goes Skiing place?

Author:  myp [ Wed Mar 26, 2014 10:59 ]
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SWOS 3rd - at least we got something right, eh Curio?

Author:  Curiosity [ Wed Mar 26, 2014 11:13 ]
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British Nervoso wrote:
SWOS 3rd - at least we got something right, eh Curio?


That's probably just you and Romanista voting for it.

Author:  Curiosity [ Wed Mar 26, 2014 11:14 ]
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Vision!

Now do it when you add in scores for game series; like all the Civ games and all the COD games counting as one, etc.

:D

Author:  myp [ Wed Mar 26, 2014 11:23 ]
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Curiosity wrote:
British Nervoso wrote:
SWOS 3rd - at least we got something right, eh Curio?


That's probably just you and Romanista voting for it.

Probably yeah. It's why more people should have voted.

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