I don't want to whip all this up again, but we're indirectly mentioned on today's posting:
http://ramraider.blogspot.com/
Whoever Ram Raider is, he must be the only person on the internet to agree with the Rev on the whole business. Unless...
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| Author: | Tmuk [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:56 ] |
| Post subject: | Ram Raider |
I don't want to whip all this up again, but we're indirectly mentioned on today's posting: http://ramraider.blogspot.com/ Whoever Ram Raider is, he must be the only person on the internet to agree with the Rev on the whole business. Unless...
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:04 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ram Raider |
Quote: You might expect us to criticise him for this, but we’re not going to. He charges his readers a couple of quid a month for the right to read his work, get emailed stuff, and to make new posts on his forum. For a writer to destroy a vibrant fan base by trying to cut out the middle man is nothing short of idiocy. Fixed that for them. Regardless of where you stand on the ongoing politics (and although I hold a strong position on that I don't particularly want to read or write about it any more), I think it's inarguable that Stu's introduction of charges has badly damaged the WoS forum.
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| Author: | Plissken [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:05 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ram Raider |
RAM Raider has been going for three years? Jesus, I definitely waste too much time on the internet. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:07 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ram Raider |
Referenced here, too: http://z1.invisionfree.com/forums/world ... opic=10444 |
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| Author: | Malabelm [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:11 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ram Raider |
I was a subscriber, yet I didn't care in the slightest about his freebies, nor did I ever read the main site. I was happy to chip in a couple of quid a month just to support the place. I cancelled as soon as he first announced his ridiculous plans to limit access. Still, this is a pretty exhausted debate now. Let's get back to being excellent. |
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| Author: | Dudley [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:13 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ram Raider |
Well part of it is of course because they've only seen the official public version of said events. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:14 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ram Raider |
nynfortoo wrote: Still, this is a pretty exhausted debate now. Let's get back to being excellent. Aw. I was up for a moan 
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| Author: | MaliA [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:14 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ram Raider |
Quote: Just as everyone silently approves of Valve selling their stuff directly to their punters through Steam, Stu has harnessed the writers’ equivalent. And we take our hats off to him for it. I do believe that that is what is known as a back handed compliment. |
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| Author: | Dudley [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:14 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ram Raider |
Got to love the accusing people of things they haven't done, accusing them of lying, when you know they have no right to reply though. Classy. Presumably he's hoping if he calls it a lie several times he'll magically not have deleted posts and that thread where he announced the change then deleted all dissent's original version will magically disappear from rapidshare. His accusations against BEEX though are of course complete lies, no non-banned member ever had a posted deleted on here, merely posts were deleted when people re-signed up when banned, which you'd expect. |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:16 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ram Raider |
Grim... wrote: nynfortoo wrote: Still, this is a pretty exhausted debate now. Let's get back to being excellent. Aw. I was up for a moan |
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| Author: | MrChris [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:17 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ram Raider |
Doesn't it just go to show how much we all miss him? Good to see grudges not being held all round. |
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| Author: | Mr Dave [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:17 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ram Raider |
Quite frankly, I don't care. I don't know if Stu even believes what he says, but quite frankly, he's welcome to live in whatever world he so desires. |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:17 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ram Raider |
Mr Chris wrote: Don't we all miss him? Who? |
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| Author: | MrChris [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:18 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ram Raider |
MaliA wrote: Mr Chris wrote: Don't we all miss him? Who? Dudley. I thought he'd been banned? |
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| Author: | Plissken [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:18 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ram Raider |
See that Monday morning thread? Get to it toot sweet and restore the excellentness. |
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| Author: | Malabelm [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:18 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ram Raider |
richardgaywood wrote: Grim... wrote: nynfortoo wrote: Still, this is a pretty exhausted debate now. Let's get back to being excellent. Aw. I was up for a moan Oh, yes, I've just read that. Moan away, Grim... but I think I'll stay out (lurking, of course). I don't really do forum politics. |
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| Author: | Dudley [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:18 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ram Raider |
Excellent work by Grim... though, pointing out just one of the tiny recent examples of Stalinist hypocrisy. |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:18 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ram Raider |
Mr Chris wrote: MaliA wrote: Mr Chris wrote: Don't we all miss him? Who? Dudley. I thought he'd been banned? Who's Dudley? |
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| Author: | Dudley [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:19 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ram Raider |
Mr Chris wrote: Doesn't it just go to show how much we all miss him? Good to see grudges not being held all round. I think it's more he misses us... after all said forum has precisely 2 updated threads so far today, and one of those is Anthony Flack taking a shot at Stu in the News thread. I'll say that again, FLACK is taking shots at Stu... |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:19 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ram Raider |
MaliA wrote: Mr Chris wrote: MaliA wrote: Mr Chris wrote: Don't we all miss him? Who?Dudley. I thought he'd been banned? |
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| Author: | Zardoz [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:21 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ram Raider |
nynfortoo wrote: I was a subscriber, yet I didn't care in the slightest about his freebies, nor did I ever read the main site. I was happy to chip in a couple of quid a month just to support the place. I cancelled as soon as he first announced his ridiculous plans to limit access. Still, this is a pretty exhausted debate now. Let's get back to being excellent.  Although I did enjoy the front page stuff too.
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| Author: | Grim... [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:22 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ram Raider |
Dudley wrote: Excellent work by Grim... though, pointing out just one of the tiny recent examples of Stalinist hypocrisy. You what? I was making a joke. |
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| Author: | Dudley [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:23 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ram Raider |
Which since the split (where he promised more content) has consisted of 2 reprints from Imagine mags that I have on good authority are illegally reproduced, a few pictures and a nicer version of an article we've already had. That's your £6 worth. There's more new content in an issue of OXBM and at least they know how to give a 2/10 properly and give you a shiny demo disk. Grim... wrote: Dudley wrote: Excellent work by Grim... though, pointing out just one of the tiny recent examples of Stalinist hypocrisy. You what? I was making a joke. Indeed. |
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| Author: | Mimi [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:24 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ram Raider |
Hehe, that's quite funny. I love Stu, he can be such a shit sometimes, but he does make me smile  I'm kind of glad he banned Dudley, so Dudley can give us his full attention now 
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:25 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ram Raider |
Mimi wrote: I'm kind of glad he banned Dudley, so Dudley can give us his full attention now You really are a "glass half full" kinda girl, aren't you Meems? 
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| Author: | MrChris [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:26 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ram Raider |
EDIT - yep. CG's right. Whatever. |
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| Author: | CraigGrannell [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:27 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ram Raider |
Oh, for crying out loud. Can't we just ignore all this? I'm about this close—''—to deleting both the WoS and BETEO links for good right now. Life's too fucking short to keep grinding axes. |
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| Author: | Dudley [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:28 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ram Raider |
Quote: I'm just enjoying a tiny piece of schadenfreude at people finding out that actually, it IS quite difficult to maintain a big fluffy cuddly forum where everyone just hugs each other all the time, no matter how democratic you might be. I guess this'll have to be replied to here. No-one said it wasn't tricky. But it's hardly a surprise that the forum where you're allowed to argue... has arguments... and there's the odd tricky decision. Of course here it was posted in a thread and people were allowed to respond. And virtually every other thread remained untouched. |
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| Author: | Dudley [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:29 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ram Raider |
CraigGrannell wrote: Oh, for crying out loud. Can't we just ignore all this? I'm about this close—''—to deleting both the WoS and BETEO links for good right now. Life's too fucking short to keep grinding axes. Then don't read the very occasional thread about it. I really can't understand this viewpoint. 1 thread a week (at the very outside) means you don't want to read anything on the site. That just doesn't even make sense. Part of the newly found freedom to post things includes a small background of bickering, it always will. There are 27 threads here with new-non-bitchy replies in since midnight. I know you don't have the free time to finish them. On WOS that score is 0, 1 at the outside if you count Flack's comment in the news thread, which you probably shouldn't. |
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| Author: | MrChris [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:29 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ram Raider |
Shouldn't we just drop this, everyone? Does it really, in the greater scheme of things, matter? I'd have thought the unfortunate events of the past few days would have put this sort of thing into some harsh perspective. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:30 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ram Raider |
CraigGrannell wrote: Oh, for crying out loud. Can't we just ignore all this? I'm about this close—''—to deleting both the WoS and BETEO links for good right now. Life's too fucking short to keep grinding axes.
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| Author: | MaliA [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:31 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ram Raider |
 I AM A SKILLED BLACKSMITH |
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| Author: | MrChris [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:32 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ram Raider |
Humungo-LOL at Mali's contribution on WoS. You're legend, mate. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:32 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ram Raider |
Mr Chris wrote: Shouldn't we just drop this, everyone? Does it really, in the greater scheme of things, matter? I'd have thought the unfortunate events of the past few days would have put this sort of thing into some harsh perspective. Quite right. Any further conversation on this subject would be better on WoS, not here (sorry I started it, my bad). Right - back to talking about Ram Raider, please (except for the couple of posts that were probably being written while I was typing this). |
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| Author: | Dudley [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:32 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ram Raider |
Mr Chris wrote: Shouldn't we just drop this, everyone? Does it really, in the greater scheme of things, matter? I'd have thought the unfortunate events of the past few days would have put this sort of thing into some harsh perspective. Not really, especially as we were attacked first here remember. Again, if twenty seven new threads don't keep you happy, you really can't just not read this one. Quote: Any further conversation on this subject would be better on WoS, not here (sorry, my bad). Well I would but... you know... |
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| Author: | ElephantBanjoGnome [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:33 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ram Raider |
Grim... wrote: Referenced here, too: http://z1.invisionfree.com/forums/world ... opic=10444 'Someone emailed me' my arse. It's blatant he's a regular browser here, keen to identify any signs of trouble, so he can make the very post he's just made. His insistence of indifference is pretty well shot. While the CUS business is a bit unfortunate, it's not without cause and it's not like the forum has disintegrated because of it. With the onset of 'mafia' and the continuous stream of threads that I'm quite happy to read (including some I'm quite happy to ignore), I deem this place better than WoS ever was. I haven't had one 'agree with me or BAN' threat yet. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:35 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ram Raider |
You might get one if you don't start agreeing with me about the future of this thread... |
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| Author: | Dudley [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:36 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ram Raider |
Well assuming the angel2 troll from yesterday was not him (and their horrific grammar suggests not) then I assumed they did. Quote: While the CUS business is a bit unfortunate, it's not without cause and it's not like the forum has disintegrated because of it. Indeed, the position of other administration on the matter only works if "Sending PMs percieved as abusive == daring to quite like a racing game where you brake". Even so, nothing CUS posted was deleted. -- Grim..., it's a perfectly legit conversation, I don't see the problem. Let's not ignore the elephant in the room because people can't ignore threads. |
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| Author: | Curiosity [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:36 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ram Raider |
Quote: Where is my armour I love you, MaliA. 
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| Author: | ElephantBanjoGnome [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:37 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ram Raider |
Grim... wrote: You might get one if you don't start agreeing with me about the future of this thread... MR COLOUR ME INTIMIDATED FACE. |
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| Author: | Tmuk [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:37 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ram Raider |
Grim... wrote: Right - back to talking about Ram Raider, please (except for the couple of posts that were probably being written while I was typing this). Quite agree. The point I was sort of trying to make was that as Ram Raider and Rev. Stu appear to be the only people on the internet who agree with the pay-per-WoS debacle, could they possibly be the same person? |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:38 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ram Raider |
Grim... wrote: You might get one if you don't start agreeing with me about the future of this thread... Am I allowed to post in the thread so I can say "mohh omlo"?
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| Author: | Dudley [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:38 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ram Raider |
No, they're not the same person. Really not. And not just because RAM Raider sometimes gets updated. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:39 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ram Raider |
Didn't his identity come out a year or so ago? |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:40 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ram Raider |
Grim... wrote: Didn't his identity come out a year or so ago? Not on XBox live, it would not have done. |
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| Author: | Dimrill [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:40 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ram Raider |
I'm an office joker type! I need an office now! |
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| Author: | Dudley [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:41 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ram Raider |
We have some dull people here, you could write scripts for one of them. |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:41 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ram Raider |
Dimrill wrote: I'm an office joker type! I need an office now! My mate bought a real doll, who was a hot-desking temp. She had 3 working offices. |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:41 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ram Raider |
MaliA wrote: Grim... wrote: Didn't his identity come out a year or so ago? Not on XBox live, it would not have done. |
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| Author: | CraigGrannell [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:42 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ram Raider |
Grim... wrote: Didn't his identity come out a year or so ago? The general consensus was Ram Raider = Daniel Emery. |
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